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How does Kai Havertz compare with Chelsea’s other FPL attacking assets?

Chelsea have continued their spending spree this summer with the acquisition of one of the most coveted young talents in Europe, Kai Havertz.

The attacking midfielder has signed a five-year deal with the Blues, following in the footsteps of Timo Werner (£9.5m) in moving to west London from the Bundesliga.

Arguably the club’s biggest statement since the signing of Eden Hazard from Lille, the German has been priced up at £8.5m – in a similar bracket to Christian Pulisic (£8.5m) and Hakim Ziyech (£8.0m) – by Fantasy Premier League and has the potential to be a real bargain.

Anyone who dabbled in Fantasy Bundesliga this summer would have been excited by what they saw – including some ‘out of position’ run-outs up front – so we’ll assess his FPL credentials in the article below.

The History and Statistics

YearAppMinsGoalsAssistsShots/gameKey passes/game
2016/17241451451.30.8
2017/18302141381.21.1
2018/193429011732.61
2019/203024621262.22
Average29.52238.89.05.51.81.2

Born in Aachen, Germany in June 1999, Havertz started out in amateur football at just four years of age for Alemannia Mariadorf where his grandfather, Richard, was club chairman. His father was a policeman and mother a lawyer so discipline was something that was impressed upon him at a young age.

It was his grandfather who encouraged him in his younger days, spending time with the youngster knocking down gnomes in the garden with his left foot. Richard’s passing when Havertz was just 10 led the German to join his first professional club, Alemannia Aachen.

He only spent a year with his hometown club, with a hat-trick against Bayer Leverkusen in an 8-3 loss impressing them enough to make them sign the youngster. He was highly sought after by clubs across the country, including Borussia Monchengladbach and Koln, but Leverkusen pulled out all the stops to sign the exciting prospect.

He notched seven goals and two assists over 23 appearances in his first season in the U17-Bundesliga West but the next season was where he really shone.

After scoring 18 goals, he was awarded the silver Fritz Walter Medal in the 2015/16 season after being named the second-best German under-17s player; two years later he won the gold in the under-19s category.

In October 2016, at 17 years and 126 days of age, he became the youngest debutant in Bayer Leverkusen’s history and later became their youngest scorer with a strike against Wolfsburg in April. 

He went on to become the youngest ever player in the Bundesliga to register 50 appearances. Coincidentally, the previous holder of that record was his new Chelsea teammate, Timo Werner. Havertz was also the youngest ever captain of Leverkusen.

After seven goals and 13 assists in his first two seasons, 2018/19 saw him become a household name in Germany with 17 goals from midfield, becoming the first teenager to hit that total in a Bundesliga season.

Nine of Havertz’s 17 goals gave Leverkusen a 1-0 lead and no player in the Bundesliga opened the scoring more frequently that season. Manager Peter Bosz’s attacking philosophy gave him a platform to flourish and he featured in every single game that campaign.

He took three penalties that season, posting an xG of 13.1 and a non-penalty xG of 10.9; this would indicate that he is a good finisher.

“I guess reading the game has always been one of my strengths. A certain composure on the ball and the ability to make the right choices quickly.” – Kai Havertz

Havertz started off the 2019/20 season by becoming the second-youngest player in Bundesliga history to score 25 goals with a strike against Paderborn on the opening day. He went on to register 12 goals and six assists that campaign with an xG of 9.1. Only one of these was a penalty, which meant his non-penalty xG was 8.3. Again, he outperformed his xG significantly and even upped his xA to 6.2.

Over his last three seasons, his non-penalty xG+xA per 90 numbers have been on the rise every year and he averages an expected goal involvement every other game over that period.

“If you can always be one or two steps ahead of your opponent, you can already win the game, and I think that’s just the player he is.” – Leon Bailey, Havertz’s teammate.

Comparison v other Chelsea assets

2019/20Mins/shotMins/SoTMins/KPSoT%Goals/shotGoals/SoT
Abraham25.263.5105.839.80.170.43
Mount25.652.6124.937.20.090.24
Giroud36.89956.348.70.210.42
Pulisic27.46957.540.30.150.36
Werner22.843.95344.90.180.38
Ziyech18.252.220.834.80.070.21
Havertz42.4584143.10.190.44

Unlike Ziyech, Havertz is not a volume shooter who takes a lot of speculative shots from outside the box: his minutes/shot is the lowest in the comparison.

However, a large percentage of the youngster’s efforts are on target (43%), compared to the Moroccan (34.8%). In fact, his goals per shot (0.19) is almost triple that of Ziyech’s (0.07).

What’s even more impressive is that Havertz scores with nearly half of his shots on target (44%) whereas Ziyech is closer to 20%. He even bests Werner, who has goals/shot of 0.18 and goals/shot on target of 0.38.

In terms of creativity, only Ziyech (20.8) created chances more frequently than Havertz (41) last season.

The Prospects

Havertz spent most of the 2019/20 season deployed as a no. 10, also featuring on the right flank and at centre-forward at times. Given that Ziyech’s preferred position is on the right wing and Pulisic has been effective on the left, Lampard is expected to use the German behind his compatriot Werner.

Werner is a very different striker compared to Olivier Giroud (£7.0m) and Tammy Abraham (£7.5m). As we saw briefly in the Brighton friendly, he works a lot more off the ball, similar to Roberto Firmino (£9.5m).

Ruben Loftus-Cheek (£6.0m), who was playing as a no. 10, found himself in the box very often as a result of the German’s link-up play and the 4-3-3 that Lampard prefers shaped up into a 4-2-2-2 in transition. Given Havertz’ goal-scoring instincts, the prospects are mouth-watering, to say the least.

Chelsea were second only to Manchester City for expected goals last season, so creating chances was not a problem and by adding an ice-cold finisher like Havertz to their ranks, the Blues’ goal output should go up significantly this season.

With Havertz having had zero minutes with Chelsea in pre-season due to international involvement with Germany, it is perhaps unlikely that Lampard throws him into the fray straight away against Brighton, with a cameo appearance most likely. His minutes should improve as the weeks go on and he settles in, however.

In terms of injury, he has a good overall fitness record with only the muscle tear he suffered in November 2019 causing him to miss more than 15 days out with injury. He has been unavailable for just six games over the past three seasons due to injury or illness.


Statistics taken from Opta, fbref.com and Whoscored.com

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  1. Flair
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    6 days until PL kicks off... exciting stuff.

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      So settled on my team now aswell it’s going to be a longggg 6 days since nothing much can change during internationals :/

      1. Flair
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah, I've been mostly set on my team for more than two weeks now. Which should be alarming but I like the team a lot and am very pleased with it. I expect I'll just relax until the deadline and go with it.

  2. Hiroku
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Wondering why not a lot of people seem to be considering rotating two 4.5 GKs this season? Ryan + McCarthy look good value at that price while none of the 4.0s look even remotely nailed.

    Also surprised why no one seems to be considering Ramsdale + 4.0. Am I missing something?

    1. Pacer.
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      In both cases it's to save money

    2. Pukki Blinders
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      4.5 and a 4.0 set and forget. Been the best GK combo for years

    3. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I tried to go with McC/Ryan to avoid the big hitters, but I calculated that at best it might earn me an extra 20 points, and a well-placed 0.5 in midfield or attack could make a bigger difference.

      Ramsdale might be in effect the same - an extra 0.5 to get 20 more points.

    4. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      No. I think that he's a decent pick but he has a nighmare run staring in week 4 where has ars, FUL, liv, MCI, che. Maybe he'll make squillions of saves ....?
      I expect (without any justification whatsoever) SHU to do OK without touching the heights of last season.

    5. LegendMoon
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I’m going with Ramsdale and maccarthy , little more expensive but fab set of fixtures

  3. R.C
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Is Lo Celso injured?

  4. jtreble
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    WGTA ** Zombie ** team. Can I improve it?

    Meslier
    TAA ∙ VVD ∙ Doherty ∙ Coady ∙ Ayling
    KDB (C) ∙ Havertz ∙ Greenwood ∙ Foden
    Werner (VC) ∙ Martial

    Miazek ∙ Soucek ∙ Ayling ∙ Brewster

    0.0 ITB

    1. ilikewud
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I might VC TAA and move on from Havertz (just because I don't know what his minutes will be like) other than that, I like the zombie team.

    2. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Greenwood is a major risk with Sancho's presence or if Ole plays the diamond

      1. jtreble
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Fair point.

    3. jtreble
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Oops, need rotating GKs I think.

  5. Nightcrawler
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    How much is havertz?

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      It's on this page

    2. ilikewud
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      rlly?

    3. Warby84
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      11m

      1. Nightcrawler
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        2 expensive

        1. ilikewud
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          WOW

        2. Warby84
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Can you not look yourself?

          1. Nightcrawler
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Meh

          2. ilikewud
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            exactly

    4. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      8.5m.

      1. Nightcrawler
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks

    5. Bank$y
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      8.5 bones

    6. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Why do you night crawl?

      Sounds sinister...

  6. Athletic Nasherbo
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Thoughts on this draft? Pretty set on it providing no better 4.0m defender emerges and James Rodriguez’s price is 7.5m or below.

    Meslier
    James Vinagre Mitchell
    Mane(C) Aubameyang J.Rodriguez Armstrong
    Werner Ings DCL

    P.Farrell Bissouma Laporte Cancelo

    1. kevchenko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      A chance on zero points from your defense in Gameweek 1? Too risky surely?

      Big gamble with no TAA - best of luck 🙂

      1. Athletic Nasherbo
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        There’s a chance on everything pal...

        James, Vinagre, Mitchell and Meslier SHOULD all start?

  7. FPL Brains
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    The dilemma, which would be your choice (I'm looking over the first 8 GWs)

    A) Werner & Ings
    B) Werner & Jimenez
    C) Ings & Jimenez

    1. kevchenko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      B, over that period of time.

    2. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      A comfortably imo.

      1. Hiroku
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        What's your reasoning for Ings vs Jimenez? Pretty torn between the two at the moment.

        Jimenez seems to be a safer bet for 3000+ minutes and 20 attacking returns. Ings never looked reliable before last season.

        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Project restart stats comparison. Ings blows Jimenez out of the water.

    3. Ron_Swanson
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I have all 3 at the moment but if I had to drop one it would probably be Jimi

  8. Warby84
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Moved from Ings to Son... Head mess with havertz in the mix..

  9. kevchenko
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    With Pulisic out, is Hudson-Odoi on anyones team sheet?

    Not seen Mount in many sides either.....

    Neither likely to be first choice when everyone is fit and ready, but will everyone be fit and ready... no...

    1. Pukki Blinders
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Won't have the FTs in the coming weeks to get rid so rather start without them

      1. kevchenko
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Nothing wrong with a 4 point hit, if they've hauled for you 🙂

    2. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I think Mount will play in the early matches.

    3. Top 210 Club
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Doesn't mount have covid?

      1. kevchenko
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Oh I don't know, hadn't seen that...

    4. Hiroku
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      CHO and Mount only make sense if you're planning an early WC, IMO. They might get lots of minutes in the first few matches with Pulisic, Ziyech and Havertz either injured or still bedding in, but will most likely be relegated to impact subs very soon.

      1. kevchenko
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I wouldn't suggest starting with both.... but if you took a punt on one, you wouldn't need a WC to get out of it...

        I haven't got either, just thinking 'out loud'... my current punt at that price(ish) is Saka at 5.5m

    5. In and Out
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I wouldn’t expect CHO to be starting. Mount is an option

  10. sirmorbach
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Lads, do help me out please?

    A. Greenwood + Ings (then Martial GW2 onwards)
    B. Fernandes + Adams

    1. The Pesci challenge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      A

  11. Davekitson
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Mane + Mitrovic or Ziyech + Martial? no other Liverpool attacking cover and Greenwood + Werner already in the team. United's fixtures look very conducive to high attacking returns, as do Chelsea's coupled with the fact they are going to need 3 goals to win a game

    1. Top 210 Club
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Would wait, they really struggled twice against Palace last season.

  12. Pukki Blinders
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    A) Martial + 7.0 mid
    B) DCL + Havertz

    1. FPL Blow-In
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I don’t like the 7m mid options so B from gw2 onwards. Not sure if Havertz will start gw1 after only signing. I really like Martial as an option though.

    2. The Sarjeant
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I’m going with B, but I have Bowen as a placeholder for a few weeks for Pulisic/Havertz.

  13. FPL Blow-In
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Which option folks?

    Salah/Mane & Armstrong
    Or
    Son & Ings

    1. jimmyabs1987
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      B 100%

    2. Aubamazette
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Probably B

  14. jimmyabs1987
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    All good?

    McCarthy
    TAA, Doherty, Egan, Justin
    Salah, Auba, Son, ASM
    DCL, Vardy

  15. Flynny
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Have ditched greenwood as think it compromises my gw1 starting 11.

    How does this look now?

    Mccarthy (4m)
    Taa dier vinagre (taylor mitchell)
    Salah auba alli soucek (bissouma)
    Werner ings adams

    0.5mitb for ings to martial gw2. Thanks

    1. jimmyabs1987
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      What if Dier and Vinagre don’t start?

      1. ilikewud
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        He has Mitchell to cover Dier, Vinagre will play

    2. Dacra
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Almost my team, but I'm starting with Martial to save the transfer, and have Mitro Davies over Adams Dier.

      1. FPL Blow-In
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Looking at starting with Martial also.

        1. Flynny
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Why would vinagre and dier not start? I think they are reasonably safe bets....

          Hard call over Davies/ dier

  16. Villa Velour
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Hi again everyone, nice to be back. Send me some questions and I'll try to give any advice.

    1. Ron_Swanson
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      What Chelsea players are you starting with in GW1?

      1. Villa Velour
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Reece James.

    2. Tshelby
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Current setup

      McCarthy, Steer
      Vinagre, Taylor, TAA, Egan, Webster
      Salah, Aubameyang, Alli, Soucek, Stephens
      Werner, Vardy, Davis

      What do you think?

      1. Villa Velour
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Like it. Actually very similar to mine - I've got Ings & Adams in attack instead of Werner & Davis.

  17. MoSalalalalalalalalah
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Is Ceballos in line to start? Thinking of going with him over Saka. 0.5 cheaper as well.

    1. Ron_Swanson
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Doubt it. And he’s not worth it anyway

    2. FPL Blow-In
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I was laughed at for suggesting it earlier. Just go with your own thoughts.

      1. MoSalalalalalalalalah
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I'm so indecisive man, changed my team like 50 times

    3. kevchenko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I imagine he'll start in a deepish CM role with Xhaka - I think the 0.5m more for Saka is worth the gamble.... I'd be surprised if Ceballos got any attacking returns, whereas I'd be hopeful Saka could get in the mix....

      At the prices though, I suppose you have to accept disappointing performances!

    4. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Pretty nailed - Saka more at risk with Pépé Willian

  18. Champions League Varane
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    I think I’m set.

    Gw 2- Son and Ings ➡️ Bruno and DCL.
    GW 3- Auba ➡️KDB
    Gw 4- ASM➡️JWP.
    Gw 5 wildcard.

    McCarthy Steer.
    Trent Taylor KWP Vinagre Lamptey
    Salah Auba ASM Son Ceballos
    Werner Ings Davis.

    1. Champions League Varane
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I now have Dallas over Lamptey actually

    2. FPL Blow-In
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Why sell Son and Ings in gw2 I’m looking at them in one of my current drafts but not for a one week punt. Would you really remove for a hit if they haul gw1?

      1. Champions League Varane
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yes.
        They play each other in GW 2 which would be a tricky game and Bruno essential

    3. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Sure....in a perfect life, where all play excelent, where there is no injuries, no Covid, no red cards..... 🙂

      1. Champions League Varane
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Loool I agree man but in the extreme case none of this happens does it look good?

    4. ilikewud
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      That transfer plan is too much - Ceballos has got to go, he's not worth it.

      1. Champions League Varane
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Who else if Soucek may be out?

        1. ilikewud
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          4.5 Stephen and bank the cash.

          1. Champions League Varane
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            No as I need to play him for the first 2

            1. ilikewud
              • 3 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              You don't though, you have bench players + Stephens will get as many points as Cellabos for 0.5 less.

    5. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Selling Ings and Son in GW1 is really unappealing to me.

      1. Champions League Varane
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I can see why but I definitely think it COULD pay off.

        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          It could pay off yeah. But I don't play Fantasy by taking hits every week to get the highest potential players. There's a reason nobody plays by copying the scout picks every week and transferring them in week to week.

          Get players for a good stretch of games, stick by them. Son has good fixtures. Stick.

          1. HollywoodXI
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            ^ This

          2. ilikewud
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            This

          3. Champions League Varane
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Thank you this is good advice.

            Only thing is.. Bruno can be captain for gw 2 and 3.. Son has Southampton and United before I would wildcard which is really poor fixtures as an attacking POV

            1. ilikewud
              • 3 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              It never works out as perfectly as you have it outlined above. So much good advice on this threat but you're just going to stick to what you got which is fair, but it begs the question why ask in the first place?

            2. Camzy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              He has Southampton and then Newcastle.... Those are more than good enough to keep for.

  19. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Lamps is going to rotate like a madman isn’t he?

    Wonder will Chelsea actually end up being a nightmare with goals spread far & wide across about 7 attackers from week to week

    1. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      With all those options he has, of course he will.
      Thats why i will not risk with Werner (if Ziyech is rdy)

    2. kevchenko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Is he a rotating kinda guy?

      My perception is that when he works out his best XI, he sticks to it?

  20. HollywoodXI
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Why are people suggesting Havertz wont start GW1? He’s fit and just finished a full Bundesliga season. Pulisic is still injured and Lampard said yesterday it was “touch and go” whether he’d be ready for GW1. Most likely he’ll be wrapped in cotton wool until GW 2/3 by the sounds of it. Chelsea Mids/Fwds then line up as follows:

    Kante Mount
    Havertz (Number 10 role)
    Ziyech Giroud Werner (playing wide left)

    When Pulisic is fit again Giroud drops out and Werner plays CF with Pulisic playing the front three.

    No?

    1. FPL Blow-In
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I suppose it is more to the fact that he hasn’t even kicked a ball with the squad yet not to do with his fitness.

      1. ilikewud
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        This

      2. HollywoodXI
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        He’ll train with the squad later this week. I just can’t see Lampard not playing him given Pulisic being a risk.

    2. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Mount is role 10 of you forget.....

      1. HollywoodXI
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        He has played in the deep lying midfield role too don’t forget.

        1. Z
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          No he is not...i am CFC fan. Havertz can play wing, but him and Mount will rotate.
          Deep mid will play Kante/Kovacic/Jorginho

          1. HollywoodXI
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            He prefers playing the number 8 role and Lamps played him there a few times last season?

            1. Z
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Oke bro....i told you what i think. Plus he had Odoi who must play some minutes

              1. HollywoodXI
                • 9 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Do you think Odoi is an impact sub for Ziyech or Havertz?

    3. kevchenko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      If that comes to fruition, Giroud at 7.0m would be a great pick compared to Werner at 9.5m?

      I think they'll play Hudson-Odoi on the left for the first week, like they did in the friendly against Brighton last week...

      1. HollywoodXI
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        The match report said he was disappointing and got hooked early? It’s ultimately guess work to a degree but I just can’t see Lamps leaving Havertz out.

        1. kevchenko
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          CHO?

          I watched it, he was alright... he didn't 'get hooked early' because of performance, all the players got subbed in the second half as it was a friendly.

          I hope he doesn't leave Havertz out, I think he could be superb value this season - his link up with Werner could be something fruitful!

          1. HollywoodXI
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            I think Havertz will be amazing value at 8.5m

            1. Z
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Just take him bro.... I dunno what do you want? Mby that all of us tell you that you have great plan and that you are right...

              1. HollywoodXI
                • 9 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                I don’t have Havertz in my team 🙂 It was just a statement that I saw a lot of people saying he won’t play and I think he will.

                1. Z
                  • 6 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  He is just not rdy for PL, as CFC is not rdy to take PL. You will see....he will play, but he will not bring pts as Werner, Ziyech and Pulisic

                  1. HollywoodXI
                    • 9 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    I guess we’ll find out

                    1. Z
                      • 6 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      Yeap

            2. Ron_Swanson
              • 13 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              But why risk it if there’s a slight doubt he won’t start having only just signed. One week won’t hurt to have a banker

              1. HollywoodXI
                • 9 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                I don’t have him in my team. I just think he’ll start. It’s not a risk I’m personally taking.

  21. Tshelby
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    A or B?

    A) Ings, Werner, Son

    B) Vardy, Werner, Alli

    1. FPL Blow-In
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Prefer Son to Alli and Ings v Vardy is close so A for me.

    2. Bullet Eder
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      A

    3. ilikewud
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      So it's Ings and Son or Vardy and Alli? A is safe, B has the higher ceiling imo.

    4. The Sarjeant
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      A, but I prefer Alli to Son.

      1. Tshelby
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah? Don't really know what I want. Would be sweet to keep Alli and spet another mil

  22. Bullet Eder
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    A. Kane and Ben Davies

    B. Werner and Doherty

    1. Aubamazette
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      B

    2. Tshelby
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      B

    3. Effe
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      B

    4. MoSalalalalalalalalah
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      B

      Kane was woeful yesterday and Doherty offers more going forward than Davies

      1. Flair
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Everyone was woeful yesterday.

  23. Aubamazette
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Ings + Alli
    Or
    Martial + Greenwood

    Don't take gw1 into account

    1. Bullet Eder
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      A

      1. Aubamazette
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Its a tough one, I really want Martial

    2. The Sarjeant
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      A

      1. Aubamazette
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Thank you cant decide don't think theirs much in it

    3. jimmyabs1987
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      B

      1. Aubamazette
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Martial is going to be essential I reckon

    4. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      B if you don't take GW1 into account. However, you have to, so A is better to start with.

  24. Strchld
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    How this looks?

    McCarthy (Button)
    TAA - Dier - Vinagre - Egan (4.0)
    Salah - Auba - Son - Ceballos - (4.5)
    Werner - Ings (4.5)

    Plan would be:

    GW2 Salah and Ings > Bruno and Martial for a hit
    GW3 Auba > Sterling or KdB

    1. jimmyabs1987
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I would downgrade one of your 5.0 and get Vardy and see if Werner is real deal

      1. Z
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I did the same...but i have Ziyech. If he is not rdy, Werner is only option

  25. Bruno Commando
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Been thinking about Alli vs Son. B gives more balance but Son seems to be more explosive.

    A) Son + Vinagre
    B) Alli + Egan + 0.5

    McCarthy // Nyland
    TAA Dier _______ // Mitchell Taylor
    Salah (A)uba ASM Soucek _______
    Werner Ings // Davis

    1. ilikewud
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      B to start, you can always move Alli onto Greenwood or someone else if he isn't performing + SHU have (Villa, Fulham, and Leeds) in the first 5 so Egan looks a good pick.

      1. Bruno Commando
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks buddy!

  26. Hungry
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Fill the gap please, you know you all love quizzes:

    McCarthy (Nyland)
    Mitchell - TAA - Vinagre - (Dallas) - (Justin)
    Auba - Zaha - Mane - XXXX - (Gordon)
    Adams - Kane - Werner

    1. FPL Brains
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Salah.

      Least let us know the budget

      1. Hungry
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Lol, forgot that! 5.0m

  27. FPL Brains
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Just building off my last post, again looking at the first 8 game weeks;

    Which 4 man combination would you keep:

    A) Werner, Ings, Mitrovic, Fernandes
    B) Werner, Ings, Jimenez, Ziyech/Greenwood

    I've had Mitrovic in for a while but I'm starting to think is 6.0mil worth it for a player who I'm personally a bit undecided on in terms of his level in the Premier League?

    1. Pacer.
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Waste of time imo. Put less time into trying to pick the perfect players (those plans will almost certainly fall apart for most) and put it into squad structure and general strategy

      1. ilikewud
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        This

    2. ilikewud
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      First 8 is too far out IMO, anything past 3/4 gws is too hard to speculate on. That being said, A (Fernandes and Mitro over Jimmy and Greenwood)

    3. jimmyabs1987
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Werner is unproven, why not Vardy or Kane? Son? Can’t ignore spurs fixtures

  28. Horlicks esq.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Bonsoir. Been away a bit. Least prepared ive ever been for a new season, but actually feeling less bothered about that than ever. I aim to give the game enough hours this season, not too many as I normally do. Dictated to by the FPL outcomes rather than football I normally forget to watch the game for what it was intended and analyse every last detail.

    This season I will balance, following highest ranks of 4,000th with 5 other seasons in the top 40,000 and a few dud years to boot.

    With this all in mind am I right in thinking the normal 'pre season results' section has now moved to a members only area?

    1. R.C
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      No still in non-members area

      1. Horlicks esq.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Ta. Can you link? I cant find. Used to say match reports/assists/goalscorers etc?

  29. Canali
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    RMT, differential... too much? £0.5 ITB

    Lloris (Nyland)
    Gomez Dier KWP Vinagre (Douglas)
    Auba Salah Son Ziyech (Stephens)
    Ings DCL (Bamford)

    1. ilikewud
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      It's not really that different other than Gomez and Lloris (who I don't like at all).

    2. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Mby Patricio as GK, and Vinagre into Coleman (so u can use that 0.5)
      Nice team wo TAA

  30. Z
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Vardy is still so under the radar...

    1. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Not after his brace opening day

    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Pretty sure I’ll be starting with him GW1

      1. Z
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Me too....but % of ownership is pure criminal! 🙂

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Might possibly look to swap out to someone else when Leicester’s Europa adventures begin (particularly if Kun is back), but until then he looks as good a bet as anyone

    3. ilikewud
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I'm starting with him, good opening fixture and decent first 7 fixtures (minus the Man City game) also great price to move down or 0.5 away from the most expensive forwards

      1. Z
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Exactly

    4. kevchenko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I agree.

      I see why though, at 10.0m you really are getting what you pay for and it's so easy to pick a player from a top 6 team at a cheaper price and justify that decision to yourself.

      Werner & Martial in particular.

      Ings +1.5m?

      Vardy is just the must un-sexy premium pick isn't he?

      1. Z
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        In my opinion, this season Kane is "for free". But you can get Son insted of him.
        Vardy is the only option in his team and you cant compere him with Ings.
        Matrial and Werner are great too, but Bruno and Rashford will take a lot of pts...sam will be in CFC with all these options.

    5. jimmyabs1987
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I’m 100% with him