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Dugout Discussion November 21

Spurs v Leeds team news: Gelhardt starts as Raphinha and Rodrigo miss out

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Sunday’s Premier League action continues in north London as Tottenham Hotspur host Leeds United.

Kick-off is at 16:30 BST.

Antonio Conte makes two changes to his starting XI, with Japhet Tanganga (£4.3m) and Harry Winks (£4.4m) coming in for Cristian Romero (£4.9m) and Oliver Skipp (£4.5m), who miss out through injury and suspension respectively.

Harry Kane (£12.2m), fresh from scoring seven goals in two games for England, leads the line and will be flanked by Son Heung-min (£10.4m) and Lucas Moura (£6.4m) in a 3-4-3 formation.

For Leeds, Raphinha (£6.7m) is ill and Rodrigo (£6.3m) has a minor foot injury. As a result, Joe Gelhardt (£4.5m) makes his first Premier League start, while Mateusz Klich (£5.4m) will be deployed in the more advanced midfield role.

Patrick Bamford (£7.7m), Luke Ayling (£4.3m), Jamie Shackleton (£4.5m) and Robin Koch (£4.3m) all remain out.

GAMEWEEK 12 LINE-UPS

Tottenham XI: Lloris, Tanganga, Dier, Davies, Royal, Hojbjerg, Winks, Reguilon, Moura, Son, Kane

Subs: Doherty, Sanchez, Gil, Rodon, Sessegnon, Alli, Gollini, Bergwijn, Ndombele

Leeds XI: Meslier, Dallas, Llorente, Cooper, Struijk, Phillips, Forshaw, Klich, James, Harrison, Gelhardt

Subs: Firpo, Roberts, Klaesson, Cresswell, Drameh, McKinstry, Greenwood, McCarron, Jenkins

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  1. F4L
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Playing no striker against 3 CBs seems to be the way to go

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  2. Randaxus
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Well at least when Tottenham play bad we know now that is has to be the players fault.

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  3. WVA
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Brought in Son and Wilson for Benrahma and Vardy which means I benched Rudiger, it's just relentless.

    This is what I've been saying for so long, if the team is rubbish there's only so much a new manager can do, same thing will happen with United especially if they bring in Rodgers.

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    1. fusen
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Or more specifically, what is Carrick going to be able to do in 7 days?

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      1. diesel001
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Dropping the defensive line 5-7 yards deeper would make a significant difference and is easy to implement.

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    2. Miniboss
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Sooo you acted against your own mantra.

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    3. Paqueta Rice
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      United will not bring in Rodgers. He’s been worse than Ole this year

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  4. Cok3y5murf
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    People actually spent 10-12m on attackers from the 2nd worst attack in the league

    Is the community playing anti-FPL? 😆

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    1. Randaxus
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Son is in the second worst attack in the league but he is one of the best wingers in the world, who scored 200+ points last season and was in phenomenal form at the start of the season, it is logical to think that he will start to score points.

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      1. Cok3y5murf
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Err no because they weren't the 2nd worst attack in the league last season. So why talk about last season? Bruno essential too then?

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        1. Randaxus
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          Stats aren't permanent, Conte is a world class manager with time their attacking stats will improve, and that will lead to more FPL points.

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          1. Cok3y5murf
            • 7 Years
            2 years, 5 months ago

            Then you should bring them in when that happens. Admit you took a hail-mary gamble on the 2nd worst attack and it backfired. They were absolutely Everton's equal last GW, so the hype was bizarre

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            1. Bartowski
              • 13 Years
              2 years, 5 months ago

              Isn't the trick to this game to jump on players before they explode though? Obviously it isn't always going to work and people at the top get a certain amount of luck but you can't decry that entire methodology.

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              1. Cok3y5murf
                • 7 Years
                2 years, 5 months ago

                That methodology still relies on some kind of evidence shown to take that gamble. Hence why I emphasized that they were the 2nd worst attack in the league. They had not shown anything to think otherwise. There are 18 other attacks in the league, so why choose to target Spurs

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                1. Bartowski
                  • 13 Years
                  2 years, 5 months ago

                  Well people have based methodology on historical precedent so in Conte and Kane you can assume some improvement. I mean ultimately in my case I brought in Kane for Antonio as Kane is the kind of player that could explode with the intls giving him some confidence and there was no other strikers really hitting form.

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          2. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
            • 14 Years
            2 years, 5 months ago

            So why not wait till that happens . I presume you listen to these content creators telling you now is the time?

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        2. Paqueta Rice
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          Have to play the fixtures to a certain extent I guess and people thought the new manager would have an immediate impact (it is only half time)

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        3. zes
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          Ok mate Son is now crap

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    2. Geenn
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Yes, blinded by price tag, manager reputation and the form from 2017

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      1. Cok3y5murf
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        And green FDR fixtures

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      2. Randaxus
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        That manager who has a reputation from 2017 won Serie A last season.

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        1. Geenn
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          Not the managers reputation from 2017, but Spurs form from 2017. It was a joke. Spurs are terrible this year, that’s my point.

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  5. Randaxus
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    What is the difference between Tottenham and trash? Nothing 😀

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      One can be upcycled, the other is Spurs

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      1. Ze_Austin
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Brutal 😀

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  6. Rainer
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Raphinha non-owners ought to buy a lottery ticket.

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    1. Ze_Austin
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      This was an easy haul

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    2. Qaiss
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      If he was playing, this game would be over by now.

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    3. ZeBestee
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      That James goal would have been his has he started.

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    4. acidicleo
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      True..
      Wish he played even though Toney first in bench..

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  7. ZeBestee
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Why didn't Reguilon pass to Royal in the most straight forward you can ever see/think of? I look at these spurs players and just feel like they are a bunch of very average players who Conte will have a huge work to turn things around with.

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    1. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      That was poor, blinded in only looking for Kane or Son maybe.

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      1. ZeBestee
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Regulion is all fart no poop. Seeing him play would think he is a mini Robbo but its clear it will take a lot for him to make it in PL.

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  8. acidicleo
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Happy with that leeds goal..
    Hope that gives spurs the motivation..
    Come on Harry...

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  9. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Guarantee no mention of Kane going missing again on sky

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    1. AC/DC AFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Where is he?

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    2. Duke Silver ☑
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      They have the wrong Keane up there.

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  10. lordkippe
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Il win 200 if Spurs scores 2 goal. Could cashout 50 now. Do you think they can do it ?

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    1. MikeS
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      No chance

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    2. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      They can.

      But they probably won't.

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    3. g40steve
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      No

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    4. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      I might cashout

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      1. Baps hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        It's very close. If Spurs are unable to improve, they won't get even two shots.

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    5. EmreCan Hustle
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Spurs can score two. But not sure they'll win.

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    6. Miniboss
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      0 shots on goal for 270 minutes now so wouldn’t be too optimistic

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    7. 1984 TC
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Hope you didn’t listen to some of these clowns

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  11. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    A couple of Kane and Son link up goals and they will be essential, such is the hysteria on here

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    1. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      If only that would actually happen though.

      Looking very unlikely at the moment.

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    2. DA Minnion (Former great)
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      True but it looks very unlikely at the minute.

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  12. F4L
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Should put Ndombele on for Moura, get Son more central. Spurs being dominated in the middle of the park.

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  13. MikeS
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Son to mane

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    1. JoeTweaks
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      I might actually do this by also downgrading Kane

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      1. MikeS
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Worth it I think

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        1. MikeS
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          I'll have to downgrade vardy.. but he's off form too

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        2. JoeTweaks
          • 2 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          Which striker would you get if selling Kane

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    2. ClassiX
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Salah and Mane off to Afcon after Christmas - you'll need a replacement plan for both of them.

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  14. g40steve
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Royal getting a MegNutts t shirt next week 🙂

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  15. nerd_is_the_werd
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    not looking good for son(c) so far
    can we at least get a shot on target?!?

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    1. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      You'll be lucky if Spurs as a whole get a shot on target. Let alone Son.

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      1. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Sadly, this.

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  16. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Conte possibly set team up hoping to be fired so he can go to Manchester United

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  17. Hy liverpool
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    mourinho to nuno to conte
    yes the all are defensive managers ...but poch was doing magic !

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    1. Alexis Nonsense
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Nuno to Man U now 😛

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    2. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Rose, Walker, Eriksen, Dembele, Alderweireld and Vertonghen all gone. Lloris past his best now.

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      1. PartyTime
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Bale, VDV, Keane,Defoe, Lennon & even Jenas all gone too

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    3. WVA
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Fans of Spurs arsenal and now United expect far too much, they need a reality check

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      1. JoeTweaks
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        I don't think United fans expect too much,they have a good squad,imbalanced but good...they should get top 4 comfortably with an average coach

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        1. WVA
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          They should not get 4th with a midfield of Fred and McTominay, not to mention their defence, they could but only because Arsenal and Spurs are so average and West Ham don't have the squad. One win and they are exactly where they should be.

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  18. WVA
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Red arrow with 66 point's and I'm not even in top 100k FFS all because Rudiger is first on my bench and all my players started of course.

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    1. Alexis Nonsense
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      It's on you then, can't bench Rudi...

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      1. WVA
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Love how everyone said to bench him before the game haha

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      2. el polako
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Of course you can, his goals are sporadic and it wasn't unimaginable for Leicester to score at home.

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        1. Alexis Nonsense
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          Yes, but still very high goal threat and one of the best defences

          I saw some "pro" / youtubers do the same, not learning from the Cancelo 14 points last week

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          1. Postman Ty
            • 9 Years
            2 years, 5 months ago

            Rudiger has never scored more than 2 in a season what are you talking about? Best defence for sure though, should be playing him basically every game.

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    2. el polako
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      It's shite, I'm not getting my Rudi points either but no point getting angry about it.

      Think about his price rise and fact that you already own solid player which others will waste transfer to bring in.

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      1. WVA
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Need him to rise twice!

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        1. Alexis Nonsense
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          I don't think many will bring him in, James/Chilwell much better assets and a triple up is rare

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    3. fusen
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Just bad luck (and a very very strong template). Hopefully it turns before we get too much further into the season.

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  19. Ze_Austin
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Bring Ndombele on, Conte. This is beyond "playing for the team"

    Stop tempting me to sell Son, ffs

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    1. Paqueta Rice
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Yep, drop Moura and bring on Ndombele in the midfield where they are losing the game

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  20. AC/DC AFC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Kaptain Kane...

    Feeling confident for a second half revival??

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    1. El Matador
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      No. I have in captain too. Captaincy punts not paid off for me all season.

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    2. TRIPOS TOPPER
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      I'm a Son owner - Spurs looked really bad first half...very passive and negative. Still time though

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  21. Piggs Boson
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    There are only around 6 players I fully trust atm.
    Salah, TAA, Cancelo, James, Chilwell, Ramsdale.

    Anyone else you can rely on for decent points?

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    1. Paqueta Rice
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Rudiger?

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      1. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Good shout.

        Mane too, but he's pricey...

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    2. Ze_Austin
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Gallagher and Guaita

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    3. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Livramento when on my bench

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    4. Dr. Rog
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      very backward looking that.

      we are about to enter a 10 match run in a little over a month. a lot of things can change.
      i would expect Ronaldo/Lukaku to come back into the mix and a few more mids to emerge

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      1. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        That's why I posted this: https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2021/11/21/man-city-v-everton-team-news-foden-starts-dias-and-jesus-benched/?hc_page=14&hc_sort_by=comment_date#hc_comment_24381025

        But as it stands, on current form, the pool seems limited.

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    5. That TV angle at Highbury
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Right now Jota is pretty good value.

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    6. Philosopher's Stones
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Can always trust Mbeumo to the woodwork and bag his 2 points consistently.

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    7. Eh, just one more thing ...
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Ha! Same 6 for me …

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    8. Postman Ty
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Ramsdale? Weird. I wouldn't say I trust Gallagher but for his price he's consistently over performing.

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  22. Dr. Rog
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    I have a feeling that Conte wont match Nunos 15pts from the first 10 games.

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  23. Firminooooo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Last season Kane and Son destroyed my OR. Just couldn’t risk going without any Spurs after Conte got in. They look like a relegation team. Think I will have to move Reguilon and Kane out after 1 GW.

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    1. Dr. Rog
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      hold until norwich match i think.

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  24. g40steve
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Mind made up next transfer will be Livra to R James, giving Cancelo, Trent, Rudiger, Chilwell & R James

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    1. Dr. Rog
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      I have thought about this but I dislike tying up the 3rd chelsea slot - just because Lukaku exists

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      1. g40steve
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        You seen the guy OR 300 has this defence?

        Huge scores recently 🙂

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  25. Flair
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Will Conte bring on Kane and Son at HT?

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    1. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      No, will Keep fresh for big game Thursday

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  26. Magic Zico
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Can't get green arrow with these obviously:
    Livra 1 Mbeumo 1 Wilson 1 Foden 1 Son 1.

    Any chance Son to reduce this GW deficit?

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    1. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      There's a chance. But it is low.

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      1. Magic Zico
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Did not watch 1st half, seems that it was bad for Spurs?

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  27. Gandalf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Keeping Ronaldo looking more and more sensible if Kane doesn't show signs of improvement

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      You don't have to own either.

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    2. Eh, just one more thing ...
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Two of the most underwhelming underperforming teams … ‘assets’ hugely expensive … think you can avoid anyone from those turgid teams for a while.

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    3. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Had the switch mentally planned but Kane not doing me any favours. All the forwards with new managers scored this weekend too: Watkins, Pukki - Ronaldo next GW?

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  28. Totti
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    C’mon son my captain
    Please save my gameweek dear!

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  29. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Lukaku will be the Kane/Vardy replacement. Wing backs will start to provide chances even he cant miss

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Yes. Stir the turds

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  30. Ginkapo FPL
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Yes, get Ndobly on

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