Scout Notes

Liverpool’s FPL defenders struggle as Arteta hands out Arsenal goalkeeper clues

Fantasy Premier League managers got a look at Liverpool and Arsenal assets in pre-season friendlies on Tuesday – learning a lot ahead of the new campaign.

While there is only so much to glean from matches such as these, we were able to see the latest issues in Liverpool’s defence as well as get a fix on the goalkeeper situation and Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang’s positioning at Arsenal.

We have detailed these in full in this latest Scout Notes article…

SALZBURG 2-2 LIVERPOOL

  • Goals: Rhian Brewster x2 (£4.5m)
  • Assists: James Milner (£5.5m), Curtis Jones (£4.5m)

Fantasy managers may start to think twice about doubling-up on Liverpool defenders for 2020/21 after another poor performance at the back for Jurgen Klopp’s men.

During Project Restart, the Reds conceded 20 big chances, the sixth-worst in the Premier League. And they were equally porous in the 2-2 draw with Salzburg on Tuesday with the youngsters salvaging the draw after the first-team disappointed in the opening hour or so.

The Austrian side went into half time with a 2-0 lead against Liverpool side that featured three of their first-choice defenders Andrew Robertson (£7.0m), Virgil van Dijk (£6.5m) and Joe Gomez (£5.5m).

They were not helped by Fabinho‘s (£5.5m) mistake for the first goal, where he was dispossessed in a dangerous area.

Filling in for Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.5m) again, Neco Williams (£4.0m) was absent from his station for the second goal in an inconsistent display, while Gomez’s poor passing was also a factor in Liverpool going 2-0 down.

“I could see the problems we had but I wanted these problems to fight against it. And then when the kids came on and (James Milner) came on, we didn’t think about the problems we had, we tried to find solutions.” – Jurgen Klopp

It was not the best afternoon for van Dijk either, who struggled to cope with the defensive lapses occurring around him, before coming off in the 55th minute with a cut to the eye. While Klopp revealed the injury was nothing serious, the question marks over Liverpool defence continue to grow.

“Virg only looks like he has a piercing now and has a plaster on it. It should not be, and is, no problem.” – Jurgen Klopp

At the other end of the pitch, Mohamed Salah (£12.0m), Roberto Firmino (£9.5m) and Sadio Mané (£12.0m) were all far from their exciting best as well.

Firmino was not involved as much as usual, a laid-back outing seeing him replaced by Takumi Minamino (£6.5m) at the break. Meanwhile, Salah’s judgement in the final third was a little rusty and Mané could not convert a close-range chance before both players were taken off just after the hour.

By contrast, Rhian Brewster (£4.5m) turned a few more Fantasy heads with another exciting second-half display.

The former Swansea City loanee bagged both goals as Liverpool came back to draw 2-2, taking his pre-season total to three in two appearances.

Both were well-placed powerful finishes, the first from a James Milner (£5.5m) squared pass, the second coming after a Salzburg clearance was deflected into his path by Curtis Jones (£4.5m).

Whether Brewster’s performances have been enough to seriously challenge Firmino’s starting berth for the Community Shield final remains unlikely, but Klopp has been, understandably, impressed with what he has seen of the player.

“Rhian (Brewster) is a young boy and he knows he can learn a lot of things but he is a natural goalscorer. That is what he is. Yes, he was involved a bit but in the decisive moments, he is 100 per cent there. I like the kid and it is all good. He scored three in two games, that is not bad.” – Jurgen Klopp

Either way, this was Liverpool’s last pre-season match before facing Arsenal in the Community Shield final on Saturday afternoon. As things stand, their key players at both ends of the pitch may have to improve if the Reds are to put on a decent performance in the competitive audition for Gameweek 1 inclusion.

Liverpool XI (4-3-3): Alisson (Adrián 63′); Robertson (Tsimikas 63′), van Dijk (N Phillips 55′), Gomez (Koumetio 63′), N Williams (Hoever 63′); Fabinho (C Jones 46′), Wijnaldum (Grujić 63′), Keïta (Milner 46′); Mané (Brewster 63′), Firmino (Minamino 46′), Salah (Elliott 63′).

MK DONS 1-4 ARSENAL

Nketiah straight back in Arsenal team after suspension
  • Goals: Mohamed Elneny, Eddie Nketiah (£6.0m), Mark McGuinness, Reis Nelson (£5.5m)
  • Assists: Bukayo Saka (£5.5m), Nelson

Fantasy managers were given a first clue to the Arsenal goalkeeper situation for the new season in a 4-1 win at MK Dons on Tuesday.

Despite impressing during Project Restart, Emiliano Martínez (£4.5m) was not involved at all at Stadium MK while Bernd Leno (£5.0m) returned from injury to play the first half.

Matt Macey was used in the second period. As a result, there will certainly be plenty of attention paid to Arsenal’s line-up when they face Liverpool in Saturday’s Community Shield final.

However, if Martínez’s Fantasy appeal took a hit from the MK Dons game, at least managers can still consider William Saliba (£4.5m) in the same price bracket.

The former Saint-Etienne loanee was selected in Arsenal’s back-three in Buckinghamshire and, even though it is hard to take too much away from a defending against League One opposition, there was also promise of what he could offer going forward.

On more than one occasion, Saliba carried the ball confidently out of the defence, starting the process that led to Arsenal’s second goal.

As yet, there are no guarantees that he will be a regular starter at first, and we will have to keep an eye on the Community Shield final team-sheet, but Saliba will surely feature heavily in the long-term.

There is, of course, plenty of interest in how the front-three will line up for Arsenal, with this win in Milton Keynes offering some clues.

Aubameyang was stationed on the left flank, as he was for much of last season, with Eddie Nketiah (£6.0m) occupying the centre forward role likely to be vacated by Alexandre Lacazette (£8.5m) and Bukayo Saka (£5.5m) on the right-hand side.

Of the three, it was Aubameyang who had the quietest afternoon, while Nketiah was on the end of things enough to score and have a goal ruled out for offside. Saka was arguably the key man displaying the energy and commitment one would expect in a competitive fixture, providing the excellent cutback for Nketiah’s goal.

It was mostly youth players involved in the second half but Reiss Nelson (£5.5m) certainly made his case for greater involvement in the Arsenal first team. Coming on for Aubameyang at half-time he was full of direct and purposeful running, winning the second-half penalty which he converted.

Meanwhile, there was a 61-minute outing for Mohamed Elneny, returning from a loan at Besiktas last season. He was one of Arsenal’s best performers on Tuesday, showing accuracy in the pass and scoring too, so it will be interesting to see if he sticks around long enough to earn a £4.5m price-tag in FPL…

Arsenal XI (3-4-3): Leno (Macey 46′); Tierney (Olayinka 61′), Saliba (Ballard 46′), Holding (McGuinness 61′); Maitland-Niles (Willock 46′), Elneny (Cottrell 61′), Xhaka (Azeez 61′), Cédric (Bola 46′); Aubameyang (Nelson 46′), Nketiah (John-Jules 61′), Saka (Smith Rowe 46′).

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499 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Flynny
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Hi.....any views on preferred squad here please?

    Team A (2m itb for son to Bruno gw2)

    Mccarthy nyland
    Taa dier vinagre justin ferguson
    Salah auba son asm armstrong
    Werner mitro Davis

    Team B (greenwood benched gw1. Saliba under review)

    Mccarthy nyland
    Taa doherty justin saliba ferguson
    Salah auba greenwood armstrong asm
    Werner jiminez davis

    Thanks

    1. Ryan_P27
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I like team B, almost identical to mine. I think with having greenwood already it should put us in good stead. And help to not take a hit where a few people will be. I might bring in Bruno for Salah or Aubameyang as well in gw2,

      1. Flynny
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks.

        Yes.....salah to bruno gw2 is an option. Although not sure I'm brave enough for that

    2. g40steve
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Ferguson red flagged?

      1. Flynny
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah . Another to monitor...

  2. Miguel Sanchez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Who scores more in GW1 only?

    A) ASM (new)
    B) Saka (ful)

    1. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      When did he leave us? 🙂

      1. OPTA FPL
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        lol

      2. sunzip14
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Haha !

        1. Flynny
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Hard to be sure saka will actually start....

          1. Miguel Sanchez
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            True Tierney at LB and Auba LW... Saint Maximin vs the Toon it is

            1. LOL LINGARD SCORED
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Yep, Saint-Maximin should score well against Newcastle

    2. Hangman Page
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      And while we’re on, anyone got this week’s lottery numbers?

  3. Attaka
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Hmmm interesting. Wondering whether to switch my 3rd Striker from Calvert Lewin to Nketiah and save 1m

    Do we think he will take Lacazettes spot??

  4. Ser Davos
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone benching Laporte?

    1. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Would rather pick him up GW10

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      No but I may pick up early on. Could well match the likes of Robertson and VVD for a few dollars less.

      1. Ser Davos
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I'd have him nailed in your GW2 WC

  5. sunzip14
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    City twitter handle now playing with fans? 😀
    https://twitter.com/ManCity/status/1298577397726547970

  6. davies
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    How much would you buy James Rodriguez for if he signs for Everton?

    1. thepuntmaster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Don't think I will.

      Desperate for him to join us, can you imagine someone of his quality at Everton... But he's played so few minutes in recent years, he'll have to be eased in surely.

      1. davies
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Agreed but could be good throughout the season

        7.5 imo

        1. thepuntmaster
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Would be a steal at 7.5

          I can see him at 8.5 though.

    2. Penzardlife
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Honestly one of the most challenging FPL picks in a while... I've seen and heard so little of him that it'd need to be a 7.0 to be in my team from the jump. Outside of that its a wait and see.

  7. thepuntmaster
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Was just catching up on the FFS podcast with Joe and price points, really interesting stuff.

    Seems there's a lot of potential options around 5.5 - Saka, Trezeguet, Schlupp, Kilch, Costa, Keita, ASM, Armstrong, Podnece - all of whom could hit some sort of fantasy consistency this season.

    Keeping a 5.5 spot in midfield to pivot between those when the best option emerges seems like a canny idea?

    1. seewhyaxe
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Saka is an interesting one.

    2. schlupptheweek
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I really like Trezeguet, because he is really gained momentum at the end of the season and apart from Liverpool he has great fixtures. There is a rotation risk but given his end of season form he will start, and if he fails then you would transfer him out anyway. The fact that 4.5M defenders like Vinagre and KWP can cover his blank makes him very viable.

    3. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Yep, get three of them and you can have Messi too

    4. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah, I’ve been trying to stretch to 8 to have son,Auba,salah,ziyech but having a 5.5 helps the rest of the team a lot just hard to know which one will start well

      1. Ser Davos
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah, picking the right one is difficult then odds are you're using a transfer to get the one that emerges...

        ...assuming the one that "emerges" is the right pick. There's some right dud bandwagons early on costing points and transfers. The likes of Ings and Vardy didn't immediately emerge (though some did have foresight to pick, though perhaps then sold)

    5. Sgt Frank Drebin
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I don't really think any 5.5 midfielder is worth it for now. I actually never liked that price bracket, it's usually just better to get 5.5 or 5.0 defender. Out of those I think the greatest potential have Saka (if he becomes nailed and plays on the wing. I really like him, he's a very talented player imho), ASM (but only if he plays as forward) and Keita if he is nailed. Maybe Armstrong but not so sure.

    6. Pukki Party
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Personally wouldn't bet on anyone of them at the start, rather go Doherty or other premium def. Will have a 6.5 and 4.5-5m mid though so easy to jump on.

  8. QUEN
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Ferguson injured?!

    1. Botman and Robben
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Knee injury. Unknown return date.

      1. QUEN
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Another £4m likely to replace?

        1. Botman and Robben
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Don't know. Maybe Tyrick Mitchell?

  9. Pointless
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Is Saka a nailed starter for Arsenal? Could be good value for first two game weeks.

    1. Goonsquad245
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Not close I’m afraid

  10. Botman and Robben
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    No double LIV defense for the foreseeable future. Will just go with TAA and Doc as premiums.

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Not just because of that article I hope ?

    2. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Ditto, bringing VVD in GW4

  11. FOO FIGHTER
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Liverpool were also 'shaky' in defence this past preason. Preseason is preseason.

    Very unfortunate to have lost Alisson early on in the season as well. Let's face it, once the title was wrapped up Klopp took his foot off the pedal.

    Once the new season starts it will be business as usual.

    1. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      This.

      Far too much is read into preseason, every season.

    2. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Plus no Henderson

  12. Doubter2Believer
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Salah or Aubameyang?

    For GW1 & 2 specifically

    1. Our Man Charlie
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Auba for me atm

      1. Muchentuchel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Auba anyday!

    2. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Both?

      Auba if you can only have one.

    3. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Auba

    4. Don Kloppeone
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Both for me

  13. Our Man Charlie
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Just a quickie

    A. Ramsdale & Saiss
    B. Ryan & Doherty

    Thanks, at the moment leaning towards A saving 0.5 i think

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B - but note both Doherty’s and Saiss’ attacking output massively dropped post lockdown

      1. Our Man Charlie
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        thanks MS , Wolves could be a watch and wait to start of , same as with Vinagre on watchlist

  14. Gallas25
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Is anyone considering Naby Keita for the 5.5m mid price bracket?

    1. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      No.

      Currently running 2 £5.5s, ASM and Armstrong to start off with.

      1. Penzardlife
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I'm in the same boat- either Son or Ziyech to another 5.5 (got Armstrong already) would let me pick up an 8.5 striker with the latter, or an 8.5 and defensive improvements with the former... very, very difficult decisions.

    2. Kessler
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I'm definitely looking at him as a double up with Salah! He was our best player post lockdown and has been looking decent in pre-season training.

    3. UshFPL
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Will probably get him if he starts the Community Shield

    4. SADIO SANÉ
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      yeah but prob not if Hendo is back

    5. Gallas25
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I think if he starts then he can be a very good differential for your teams. If he stays fit then he will play more this season. Think Wijnaldum would take that back seat.

  15. The Ejiptian King
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    “Serge, you are a marker. You speak good English?” Mourinho asked, to which Aurier nodded.

    “I am afraid of you as a marker. Because you are capable of doing a sh*t penalty with VAR. So I am telling you already, I am afraid of you.”

    From the upcoming Amazon docu, not my Jose fanfic.

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Is it worth watching?

      1. The Ejiptian King
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        It's out on Monday, there's a few quotes around though, sounds like it could be interesting or at least pretty funny.

  16. Dacra
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    I'm seriosly considering going without TAA now. Gomez I think is nailed, 2m cheaper.

    TAA + Armstrong/ASM
    v
    Gomez + Greenwood

    Will Greenwood outscore the cheap mids more than TAA outscores Gomez?

    1. Carlton P
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      TAA + Armstrong easily

    2. Qaiss
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      It's all fun and games until TAA has a week like Leicester away last season and you rip your team up to get him. If a midfielder was getting TAA's points for 7.5, you would not think twice about owning. I will have him from GW1 until 38 barring injury.

    3. Qaiss
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      But Greenwood is also going to be good value I think so you could maybe own both somehow

    4. Penzardlife
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Careful with Greenwood, looks a great finisher but hard to keep living up to his current overperformance. IMO Trent is an absolute must-have, but definitely agree Gomez>VVD, doubtful for Robbo.

  17. rusev
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Without getting too hung up on Pulisic injury/Foden blank right now...

    a) Pulisic, Foden, Armstrong
    b) Son, Barnes/Maddison, Gordon

    (same cost)

    1. Pukki Party
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A

    2. Andy Mac
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A all day!

  18. Aubamazette
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Mane over Salah anyone?

    1. Muchentuchel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Yep!

    2. SADIO SANÉ
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      depends on how I approach it, but if it's a downgrade to Bruno GW2 I'll probably chance a Mane(c) GW1

      1. The Ejiptian King
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Also considering that, I suppose the decision is either to have 1.5m and a transfer tied up in someone you're downgrading or 10.5m on your bench, I'd rather have Mane over anyone else as a one weeker though.

      2. Aubamazette
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Exactly my thinking, Salah in the final third is just not as clinical as before imo

        1. Penzardlife
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Not as clinical, but won't stop shooting and isn't likely to start passing more.

    3. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I might go for it

      1. Aubamazette
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah i think i will be going for Mane, I hate watching Salah miss 5 chances before putting away one

        1. Goonsquad245
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          You’ll hate it even more now when he puts away 3 of those 5 chances and mane scores 1 of his 2

          1. Aubamazette
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Through out last season Mane was scoring better than Salah until Mane missed out a couple games where Salah was deployed more centrally where he scored around 16 in both of the games Mane missed that was the only thing that took his points tally over Mane

            1. Goonsquad245
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              cool - you do you.

              1. Aubamazette
                • 9 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                Just came across this

                Salah (1st) vs Mane (2nd) in matches they both started last season:

                Played - 27
                Goals - 12 v 14
                Assists - 6 v 7
                xG - 14.05 V 13.4
                xA - 5.89 V 5.5

  19. OPTA FPL
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone else get Son?

    1. LOL LINGARD SCORED
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I want him but finding it hard to fit him in without making other sacrifices I don't want to make 🙁

      1. Jay Jay Okocha
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Same

    2. KujaliaFC
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I had him, but downgraded to Lucas Moura to cut my suit according to my cloth.

      1. JELLYFISH
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        You'll be touching cloth on match day then

        1. KujaliaFC
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Due to Son's high ownership?

          Moura allows me to have both Werner and Jimmy, so I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't.

          I do worry about not having Son though.

          1. JELLYFISH
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Indeed, similarly not having Jimi could hurt those going with just Werner and Mitro up front

            1. KujaliaFC
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              We can't have them all.

              And would we really want to?

              That's the key to the richness of this game.

    3. Penzardlife
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Got, but dropping would give me so much more strength all round. Would absolutely leave me without spurs attacking coverage though, and those fixtures are oh-so supple.

    4. Don Kloppeone
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      See below. I wanted him for sure but it means forgoing having Bruno from the start (obv on bench in GW1) and nkt sure I like to have to plan in a transfer before the season even starts

      1. JELLYFISH
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I plan to swap him for Bruno GW2, even at the expend of a -4 if necessary (I think its worth a 1 week punt)

        1. Don Kloppeone
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I’ve just not been massively impressed with him recently or Spurs in general aside from Kane’s recent form uptick.

          I get the appeal of the fixtures though and if you do catch Son in a purple patch he can reward you nicely

    5. Yankee Toffee
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Just dropped him

  20. Sepp Blattered
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Think I’m finally happy assuming no transfers/injuries/line ups..

    McCarthy - Nyland
    TAA - Davies - Vinagre - Justin - 4.0
    Salah - Auba - Pulisic - Greenwood - Soucek
    Kane - Nketiah - 4.5

    Bank the FT and look to bring Jiminez and KDB following weeks. Werner could also be an option.

    1. Qaiss
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Nketiah is less nailed with us signing Willian.

      1. Qaiss
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Because Willian may play on left, Saka can also play there. So Auba might go up top, Lacazette also up front.

      2. Steinburg FC
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        If Nketiah plays doesn't he always play as the striker?

        1. Qaiss
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Yes but I'm not sure he plays most games

    2. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Vinaigre a risk too. Is Davies really nailed ? Too many gambles imo

      1. Yankee Toffee
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I agree

  21. Ajax Hamsterdam
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    So I assume there aren't really any good 4m defence options ?

    1. KujaliaFC
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I'm hoping for Mitchell (CPL) and Branthwaite (EVE).

      1. Ajax Hamsterdam
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers will monitor these 2. I want to have 14 starting players in my team if possible 🙂

    2. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Johnson from West Ham too

    3. Don Kloppeone
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Got my eye on Mitchell given he’s 1 of Palace’s only 3 uninjured defenders!! Seems likely he could get game time

      1. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Palace have 6/7 defenders

        2 not on FPL and Kouyate plays in central defence internationally

      2. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Mitchell was always much better call than Ferguson. PvA coming back means he’s likely short term now. Riedewald may be a threat too but RH preferred Mitchell there last season. Next match will be the one to watch

        1. Don Kloppeone
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Ah was hoping you’d pop up with some real knowledge mate! Appreciate it!

          Mitchell looks ok as a benchwarmer for now!

          1. pingissimus
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Much less bullish about Mitchell than before - think PvA is probably only a few weeks out.

            Ferguson is the more likely of the two midterm but wouldn’t fancy him before WC if you’re thinking start minutes. He needs not just to get fit but also displace Ward - not a given straight off. Possible for GW6 on perhaps when Palace sit top of ticker - could even be differential then

            1. Don Kloppeone
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Thank you mate

    4. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Thanks all

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        For me that 4m slot may have to be a very late decision, but it's a heck of a risk if your Starting line-up depends on one. Mine's for the bench where he can't do any harm. From GW2 when the big boys arrive, I won't even remember him.

  22. Ajax Hamsterdam
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Also do you think Ritchie is nailed ? I think at 5 if nailed he's good enough to be in starting 11. Better than soucek imo

    1. Yankee Toffee
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      And he's on pens, maybe

    2. ElliotJHP
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Not nailed, lot of toon fans don't rate him and they've just signed Hendrick

  23. Don Kloppeone
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    I think this will be the way I start off in GW1.

    Bruno waiting on the bench for GW2 and hope that Auba does well in first couple but not so well that he stops me wanting to get in Sterling/ KDB!

    All thoughts and comments welcome. I did want Son but it means ripping everything else up!

    0itb
    McCarthy
    TAA, Doherty, Justin, Mitchell
    Salah, Auba, ASM, Soucek
    Werner, Mitro
    (Nyland) (Davis, Bruno, Taylor)

    Obviously there is no bench for GW1 but the squad and selections become much improved from GW2 (Bruno and Taylor coming in) with no wasted transfers.

    Cheers

    1. Yankee Toffee
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Can you stretch Soucek up to one of the 5.5ers?

      After GW1, he is is -4 waiting to happen

      1. Don Kloppeone
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Only feasible way is downgrading Doherty to a max 5.5 which i don’t like the sound of!

        1. Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Have a look at Doherty's stats from 1-29 and then 30-38 (post lockdown). There was a notable regression in his attacking involvement. I don't think Boly at 5.5 is a bad option, nailed, good for BPS when they keep a clean sheet and picked up a few goals the season before last.

          1. Don Kloppeone
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Yep you aren’t wrong and I had been looking at his drop off in performance. I just believe he has the quality to regain form but possibly it’s enough to have Boly and upgrade Soucek to one of the 5.5s.... hmmm

            1. Miguel Sanchez
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              I think Traore playing more through the middle has had an impact. Initially when Traore was playing he was playing on the wing and allowing Doherty to become an auxiliary forward and get plenty of shots in the box but now it seems Traore occupies central ground meaning Doherty is more of a traditional wing back.

              1. Don Kloppeone
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                Interesting point. Maybe it’s partly a fear around starting a season with such a cheap defence (except Trent)! But maybe that’s the way forward (no pun intended!)

    2. ElliotJHP
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Similar to me bud. How guaranteed is Mitchell to start do we think? Didn't start in what seemed their starting line up yesterday.

      I am going down the wasted transfer route, with 1.5 itb to move Son to Bruno.

      1. Don Kloppeone
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        All I know re. Mitchell is that he is 1 of only 3 current Palace defenders that are not injured!!

        Doing the wasted transfer thing is my plan B. Other issue I have with it is what will you do if Son looks unstoppable? What will your plan be to get in Bruno/ Utd?

        1. ElliotJHP
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Ignore United or swap Werner for Martial

          1. Don Kloppeone
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            It’s a tough one I’ll admit. At this stage we have no clue if Son, Werner etc will be worthy or if everyone rushing in Bruno/ Utd for GW2 will work out!

      2. Don Kloppeone
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Btw have you considered the scenario where Bruno rises in price before GW2?

    3. Jullepuu
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah can't see anything else wrong with it except the fact that Son isn't there. It really comes down to possibly saving a transfer vs having Son istead of Soucek gw1

      1. Don Kloppeone
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        When you say it like that it seems clear to have Son but what if Son has an absolute screamer and looks undroppable..... how do you get Bruno/ Utd in?

        1. Jullepuu
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Then I will just keep Son and save a transfer that way

          1. Don Kloppeone
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            You’re twisting my arm and it’s working 😉

            Damn. Not sure now!

    1. Burton
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I'd think Sterling would be the cheif beneficiary if the transfer happened.

      The key to getting the best out of Messi these days is to surround him with exactly the sort of energy Sterling brings.

  24. Yankee Toffee
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    RMT pls

    McCarthy
    TAA, Saliba, Vinagre
    Salah, Mane, Alba, Armstrong, ASM
    Werner, Mitro

    4.0, 4.5, 4.0, 4.0

    0.0 itb

    1. Apwilkin
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Keep an eye on saliba and vinagre. Both are far from nailed for GW1. Could end up with only 9 players

      1. Yankee Toffee
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yes, def keeping an eye on them. Can switch to other 4.5ers further down the road

    2. Don Kloppeone
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Decent team

      I personally think Saliba and Vinagre won’t live up to the hype or will not play majority of game time.

      Basically to squeeze in Salah AND Mané is leaving your defence and bench too thin I think

      1. Yankee Toffee
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers, can switch to other 4.5 defenders further down the road

        GL this season!

        1. Don Kloppeone
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          You too mate! I’m hoping this one is less of a headache than last but I have a feeling we won’t get let off that easy!

  25. Mayor of Flair
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Foden anyone?

    1. Yankee Toffee
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      not for me, not yet anyway

  26. MYNAMEISBigtopmark.sman
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone who thinks messi is leaving for free is dreaming.

    The legal ground is on Barcelona's side. Messi's lawyers have a massive fight on their hands to try and justify their stance around an expired clause. You cannot just say oh but the season ended late because of a pandemic. That's not how contracts work. I recall a certain luis Suarez who thought he could leave liverpool for arsenal based on a contractual misunderstanding. His advisors were also incompetent. The letter of the law in the contract is paramount. The clause is no longer active according to the stipulated date in the contract. I dont see how Barcelona let him go without a substantial offer and neither should they have too.

    1. Steinburg FC
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Barcelona will definitely be in dream land if they get 200m for a 34 year old x-)

    2. ElliotJHP
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Barca will also not want a massive lawsuit dragging onto in the season though.

      If he was to leave, I can see it being a fee similar to Ronaldo to Juve.

    3. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I agree, if anything Barca will lower the price of the buyout clause then whoever wants him need to pay up as the buyout clause is now in play after the season ended. His contract only expires in 2021 so it cannot just be torn up. After his contract has ended he can leave for free.

      Cannot see Messi wrangling himself out of this.

      1. Steinburg FC
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        his release clause is 700m lol i live spain and they say they want 200m

        1. Steinburg FC
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          It costs Barca 100m just in wages so that alone could buy a replacement

    4. soup natsi
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Pushing that clause means either
      i. they keep Messi against his wishes, a £50m p/a player who wants out
      ii. they stop Messi from playing active football anywhere else
      Either option is a PR disaster in unprecedented scale. They may or may not have the legal ground on their side (I'm not a lawyer, guessing you're not either) but actually exercising it to the full extent will have repercussions they can't afford.

      1. MYNAMEISBigtopmark.sman
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        They wont want to keep him if he is adamant about leaving but that does not mean they just let him go for free.

        They will try and sell him and they are right (I think) to do so. Messi is still the best player in the world and could be for another 2 years. They will never get 700 million for him but I would not be surprised to see someone pay 200 million. I wouldn't but someone will.

        Him leaving for free is just ridiculous. It's a ridiculous clause and it has expired.

        All I hear from the other side is "good faith", "special circumstances"

        Barcelona's is a much tighter argument because you just follow the letter of the contract.

        This is why I bring up Suarez who got caught out by clever wording. "If we receive a bid of over 40 million we must consider it." His side thought that was a release clause in "good faith". Liverpool followed that contract to the letter and won. So will barcelona.

        And no I am not a lawyer. But it takes no genius to see messi needs a miracle to get out of this one for free.

        1. Flair
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Messi isn't stupid, he wouldn't have made the decision if he didn't know it would work. Every reliable journalist has said he's joining City, FIFA essentially backed up Messi's argument too, so I'd start preparing that 14-15M hole in your midfield ASAP

          1. MYNAMEISBigtopmark.sman
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            I expect him to join city. Just not for free.

            Covid messed this up. He did expect it to work because in a normal season it would have but this is gonna drag on unless city pay up.

            I would fill that 15 million hole with actual players. You can always get messi in on wildcard when window closes.

            1. Flair
              • 3 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              I figure I'll upgrade Salah and downgrade Kane when the time comes, but early days yet. It depends on how the legal body sees the contract, different scenarios around. I'm sure he'll leave this window too, I believe it'll be for free from the quotes I'm noticing but lets see.

    5. ClassiX
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Nothing is clear cut when it comes to contract law. Simply put, Messi's lawyers would have to show that the date in the contract was intrinsically linked to the normal conclusion of a season as would have been reasonably anticipated when the contract was concluded, and therefore the fact that the season extended meant the cluase date extended as well. Barca, if they were to contest, would have to show that the specific date had nothing to do with the natural seasonal cycle and was chosen for other specific reasons. The other issue that would come into play would possibly be force majeure, but I don't know how Spanish law deals with that (I'm also assuming the contract was signed in terms of Spanish law - it may be under some other jurisdiction for tax purposes).

      1. ClassiX
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Oh, and of course, there may be some brinkmanship involved - not sure Barca would want Messi's contract details aired in open court - may cause other players to question their deals and also impact contracting with any new players they want to sign.

  27. ElliotJHP
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Eze to Palace moving closer, hoping for 5.5 but expecting a 6.0.

    1. Mayor of Flair
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Good news for Zaha?

      1. Jullepuu
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Should be

  28. The Legend Squad
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Would appreciate people’s thoughts on this.

    A) Doherty, Soucek, Werner
    B) Vinagre, ASM, Kane

    Thanks!

    1. Mayor of Flair
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A

    2. Steinburg FC
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A

    3. Fernandito
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A

  29. htfcbrad
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    With so much competition for premium places in the team, is anybody else considering going without any Man City assets until GW10? Could be a great time to wildcard them in at the expense of United/Spurs players who have some pretty great fixtures at the start of the season

    1. Mayor of Flair
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Ya I'm going without until one of them becomes essential. Hopefully Foden.

      1. htfcbrad
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Could make an absolute mockery of that £6.5m price tag!

    2. ElliotJHP
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Not for me, frontrunners in cap from 3-6

    3. Ser Davos
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Wondering if there's actually an oppurtunity with City assets.

      Take a poor GW1 on the chin, but then have them at your disposal from GW2

    4. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I am not considering any Man City at this point. It is all about KDB and with the wealth of options in midfield, you can go without KDB.