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Dugout Discussion – Watford vs Liverpool

Saturday’s opening match has big boots to fill.

After Friday night’s opener provided seven goals, the onus is on Watford and Liverpool to entertain at Vicarage Road.

From a Fantasy perspective, the focus is on the visitors’ attack, with Sadio Mane, Mohamed Salah and Roberto Firmino strongly backed from Gameweek 1. That trio all boast over 20% ownership, benefitting no doubt from the late fall-out from Philippe Coutinho following the revelation of his transfer request.

The Brazilian misses out through “injury”, while, rather surprisingly, Jurgen Klopp elects to leave James Milner on the bench.

Touted as a potential target ahead of the season kick-off having been classified as a defender, Milner has claimed a 7.5% ownership who will be bitterly disappointed to see their man omitted. Given the absence of Coutinho and Adam Lallana, it is a shock to see him missing from the Liverpool midfield.

Meanwhile, the Reds line-up with two 4.5 options at full-back as Trent Alexander-Arnold and Alberto Moreno earn starts. Their progress will be tracked with interest, with Moreno potentially a real option from this point on.

For Watford, their most popular Fantasy asset Etienne Capoue (7.9%) is another left on the timber following speculation of a falling out with head coach Marco Silva.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Jasoooooooo
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    I take it Salah hasn't played very well based off these comments......

    1. Rödallegabomb ᴿᴮ
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I wouldn't even say he's played badly, it's just salty owners who expected double figures by now.

      1. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I'm a non owner and he has been dreadful, no two ways about.

        First start in the PL for Pool though.

        1. Camp No No
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Not sure it's really him being dreadful. He makes good movement off the ball, but just is not getting any passes. Maybe Liverpool midfield is missing some creativity?

    2. Respect My Authoritah
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Wasn't too bad. Missed a chance and sloppy, but doing the right things

    3. Get up ya bum
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Other than mane nobody in red is playing very well

    4. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      As a Salah owner, i have to say he's been poor but so has the whole team. Desperately missing Coutinho.

    5. Forza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Owners are impatient, non-owners are gloating. He's not been too awful.

    6. blizzle
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Wow some sensible reactions in the replies here. Nice.

    7. Darklord_bg
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      That's an understatement.

    8. Az
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      He's been pretty bad but getting in to some good positions

      Needless offside and a really bad shot/attempted cross have been his highlights

      Still time tho! One goal or assist changes everything.

      1. Nas
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        He's been pretty bad. I own him. I don't expect double figures, but I expect a performance. Looking at lacazette yesterday, he had good movement, was fast, made runs. Even though he scored only one goal he showed potential. Salah looks intimidated, and lacking composure. Early days, but given he flopped at Chelsea not long ago it's understandable that owners are concerned. This is reminiscent of his chelsea performances

  2. CostaCoffee
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    It’s been half a game calm down.. anyway how have Watford looked?

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Organised, committed, like they've gone and got just the right manager.

      1. CostaCoffee
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Nice.. he should be able to guide them to mid table I guess

    2. G-Whizz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Organised

  3. BoomXhakaLaca1
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Liverpool are awful.

    Wenger out???

    1. Bushido
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Loool

    2. Nas
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Awesome post

  4. Waxys
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Ok lads let me give you the 4-1-1

    Firmino has a HORRENDOUS output without Coutinho on the field just look at last time around.

    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Thanks for that.

    2. Bird Raymond
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Have you got him in one of your teams?

      1. Waxys
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Ew no

    3. Seb Wassell
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Firmino did better without Coutinho two years ago

    4. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      They are playing 4-3-3.

  5. Jasoooooooo
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Lol at everyone panicking over Salah

  6. Stupendous
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    TAA, Iwobi and Salah.

    Another hot start for me this year.

    -4 coming

    1. G-Whizz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      All is not lost, it's a marathon not a sprint...

  7. Arctic monkeys
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Salah will be 8.8 by next deadline

  8. Sif
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    People forgetting Liverpool attackers take it in turns to haul each week.

    1. F4L
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Mane hauls EVERY week

  9. Atimis
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Ok, Vardy get it...

  10. FPL Virgin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Only Jonty can hold his head up high in this article http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2017/08/08/the-burning-question-how-to-solve-the-liverpool-midfield-conundrum/

    JONTY SAYS ....

    "Having said that, I currently have Mane in my side, with his 9.5 price tag offering the flexibility to hop on an emerging premium midfield bandwagon."

    Lesson leant. Don't listen to the FPL pundits (except the J-man) and don't be stingy and try to save money.

    1. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      *lesson learnt

    2. Ramboros
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      After 1 half?

    3. Slam
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Jokes on you he took him out

    4. Cok3y5murf
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Oh god.

    5. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Pick your own team and stop blaming others if it backfires.

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        It's not that. It's the meta groupthink thing that winds me up.

        1. Darklord_bg
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Then go against it. Don't listen to anyone, make your own choice.

          1. FPL Virgin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            It's not easy to be the lone voice of reason. I try but I struggle with it. I know Chapelle does too.

    6. J0E
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Tho I did swap out for salah to spend elsewhere - can only hope someone listened to me, as I certainly didn't

      1. Unliklinho
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I did exact same - I read that article and the message I took was get Mane - lots of sound if conservative reasons to do so, put him in. But I just had an itch for Salah after his pre-season so swapped back yesterday morning 🙁

      2. Holmes
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Not sure if this has been observed but some profile says: This user didn't post any comments in the last 30 days.

        Even mine and yours as well

      3. G-Whizz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I'm gonna be making these kinda decisions all season 😆

    7. Get up ya bum
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      😆

    8. tisza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      but he picked Salah in the end

    9. Az
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Lesson learnt. Don't listen to any of us :p

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Except you of course, Az 🙂

        Mr. "Super Matty Philips!"

    10. evilfish
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Someone's butthurt! Lost your brown cherry this season FPL hussy?

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Become a member and you might have some credibility.

        1. evilfish
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Loool but you just said there is no point. Make your mind up.

  11. Seb Wassell
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Didn't everyone kneejerk Firmino out GW1 last sesson only to see him score a brace the next week?

    1. Greenbackbøøg…
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      after GW2 if i remember correctly

      1. Seb Wassell
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Ah yes. Principle holds though.

      2. BrutalLogiC
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        so safe to swap for Vardy GW2 then and back for GW3 🙂

        1. Seb Wassell
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Haha

    2. Margarido
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      He didn't. They Lost 2-0 at Burnley in GW2

      1. Seb Wassell
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Yep my bad sounds like it was GW3. Principle applies though.

    3. Gazpilicueta
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      he will be staying in my team for a few weeks

      1. G-Whizz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Locked in for 5 or 6 for me. That's enough to see any other trend develop.

  12. Margarido
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    45min from Moreno have explained why Milner is essential in that back 4.

    1. Pep bites Kun
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Moreno playing that badly compared to the rest?

  13. rdamjan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Salah over 60 mins?

  14. Fowler23
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Not sure anyone speaks Malay or from Singapore
    The meaning of Salah in Malay means mistake lol

    1. The Wanton Trader
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      ..... and the meaning of Firmino is, Brace.

  15. F4L
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Salah is just a BTEC Sone Aluko

  16. FALCAO & MOU
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Klopp must be giving them a beating in there.

  17. Waxys
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Soooo Milner in lol?

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Too late for your 4 Cs points though. Oh...

    2. Triple P
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

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  18. VFORVANDETA
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Firmino (c) next week?

    1. Over Midwicket
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Lol no chance. Giving him the boot for Mane.

      1. BobBradleysOpportunity
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        straight swap?

      2. BrutalLogiC
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        and -4 hit?

    2. drughi
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Zaha (c)

    3. Kun Tozser
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Yes, especially after last year's mistake

  19. ahak9
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Salah means wrong in Malay language. I could say that I chose the Salah guy....

    1. VFORVANDETA
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Ade gak melayu kt sini.Haha.

      1. Grounderz
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Bukan kami org sja. Org sni pun boleh ckp bahasa melayu. 😆

  20. Eton Rifles
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    The Scout picks are smashing it again as per.

  21. Texas Pete
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    So how's Salah doing?

    1. Waxys
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      He's a potato with a beard

    2. tafrère
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Disgusting to see.

    3. Weasel51
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Poor

    4. YankeeDoodleDandy
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      In good spots, just working out some nerves. Def wouldn't panic

  22. tafrère
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Liverpool always surprise me, they always manage to do worse than Arsenal somehow.

  23. Dr. Rog
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    DON'T PANIC

    Salah will come good. The only question being is Mane worth the 0,5m extra outlay?

    Team Games (Goals)
    Basel 47 (9)
    Chelsea 13 (2)
    Fiorentina 16 (6)
    Roma 65 (31)
    Egypt 53 (29)

    1. Waxys
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      For 9m we don't expect a potato

    2. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Different league, much different. Was a Chelsea sub.

  24. Piggs Boson
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Has Coutinho been carrying Pool since Suarez and Gerrard left?

    1. Waxys
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Essentially lol

    2. Arctic monkeys
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Carrying them to what exactly ?

      1. Waxys
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Avoiding relegation

      2. Darklord_bg
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Non-relegation?

    3. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I think it's clear from the first 45 mins . Liverpool will get double secret probation without Coutinho

      1. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Robot House!!

  25. YankeeDoodleDandy
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    First half summary:

    Mane gold
    Firminio ghost
    Salah nerves
    Watford solid
    Mignolet joke

    1. tafrère
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Word.

    2. Triple P
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Well said. Curious if the second half will be the same summary

  26. CloudSky
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Surely Firmino C next week if he blanks tonight.

  27. Iceball
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    0 from 0 feels ok as things turning out...

  28. Rödallegabomb ᴿᴮ
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Salah hasn't been awful, the game is only halfway through.

    If anyone had actually bothered to watch the pre season games, and consequently his goals, you'd see they weren't all that special. His debut goal in the Wigan game, which I was at, was frankly just Firmino gifting him the ball for the novelty of him scoring on his debut.

    Luckily he is playing on the right hand side (both his and Mane's preferred position), though all three including Firmino have looked quite interchangeable.

    My 2 cents would be that if Coutinho ends up leaving and with Lallana out, Wijnaldum could be the one to own. Only 7.0 and a massive differential.

    1. Respect My Authoritah
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Mane still lol

  29. arthadox
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Bonus Points so Far:
    3 - Okaka
    2 - Doucouré
    1 - Holebas

  30. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    I can't wait for the DZ!