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Lineup Lessons – Gameweek 8 – Part One

Wilfried Zaha fires Crystal Palace to victory over Chelsea after being unleashed up front in his first appearance under Roy Hodgson.

Blues’ boss Antonio Conte reverts back to 3-4-2-1 at Selhurst Park as Eden Hazard shifts back to the left flank, while Roberto Firmino returns to the Liverpool teamsheet at home to Man United.

Here’s part one of Line-up Lessons, assessing the teamsheets and formations from Gameweek 8, with one eye on what’s to come over the European matches and the weekend.

Arsenal

Starting XI: Cech; Koscielny (Holding 86), Mertesacker, Monreal; Bellerin, Elneny, Xhaka, Kolasinac; Iwobi, Welbeck (Ozil 61), Lacazette (Giroud 68). Subs not used: Ospina, Walcott, Coquelin, Wilshere.

  • What we saw: Arsene Wenger stuck with his favoured 3-4-2-1 formation for the trip to Watford, although Alexis Sanchez and Aaron Ramsey both missed out after picking up minor muscle injuries during their international exploits. Danny Welbeck returned from injury to join Alex Iwobi in the attacking midfield spots, while Mohamed Elneny partnered Granit Xhaka in central midfield. Laurent Koscielny passed a late fitness test to start in the back three, while Per Mertesacker replaced the injured Shkodran Mustafi. Wenger’s first change was an enforced one, with Mesut Ozil coming on for Welbeck, who picked up a hamstring problem. Koscielny was then forced off during the closing stages with a muscle injury, leaving Rob Holding to take his place in a straight swap.
  • What we learned: After throwing away a 1-0 lead at Vicarage Road, we can expect to see alterations for Sunday’s trip to Everton. If, as expected, both Sanchez and Ramsey are fit, they should return to the starting XI. Ozil provides a possible alternative to Iwobi, while Holding could start in central defence although Koscielny’s problem is thought to have been cramp rather than anything more sinister. As always, the Gunners’ teamsheet for their Europa League tie on Thursday will provide some insgith into for Wenger’s likely XI at Goodison Park.

Current Status: Slightly Unsettled
Risk Areas: Central defenders, central midfield, attacking midfield

Bournemouth

Starting XI: Begovic; A Smith (Ibe 75), Francis, S Cook, Ake, Daniels; L Cook (Mousset 83), Surman, Gosling, Stanislas (Defoe 75); King. Subs not used: Boruc, Pugh, Arter, Afobe.

  • What we saw: Eddie Howe switched from a 4-2-3-1 formation to a defensive 5-3-2 set-up for the trip to Wembley. Steve Cook was handed a recall in central defence, while Dan Gosling returned in central midfield. Josh King recovered from a hamstring problem to start in attack alongside Junior Stanislas. The Cherries ended the match in a more attacking 4-4-1-1, with King operating just behind lone striker Jermain Defoe. Fellow substitutes Jordon Ibe and Lys Mousset were stationed out wide, while Simon Francis moved to right-back.
  • What we learned: With a trip to Stoke City up next for Bournemouth, it’s likely that Howe will revert back to either a 4-4-1-1 or 4-2-3-1 system. In defence, either Steve Cook or Adam Smith could drop to the bench. Harry Arter was likely rested following international exertions so his recall could see Lewis Cook make way. Ibe and Defoe will also be pushing for starts and their return could see Stanislas shift back out wide, leaving King just behind Defoe in attack. As ever, Benik Afobe provides another alternative up front.

Current Status: Unsettled
Risk Areas: Defence, central midfield, flanks, forwards

Brighton & Hove Albion

Starting XI: Ryan; Bruno, Duffy (Hunemeier 73), Dunk, Suttner; Knockaert, Stephens, Propper, March (Izquierdo 72); Gross; Murray (Brown 84). Subs not used: Krul, Bong, Schelotto, Molumby.

  • What we saw: The Seagulls lined up in an attacking 4-2-3-1 formation against Everton, with Glenn Murray recalled as the lone striker in place of Izzy Brown who dropped to the bench. Anthony Knockaert and Markus Suttner also returned at the expense of Jose Izquierdo and Gaetan Bong. A groin injury meant Shane Duffy had to be replaced for the final 18 minutes, with Uwe Hunemeier taking over in central defence.
  • What we learned: After a good performance against the Toffees, Chris Hughton is likely to name a similar side for Friday night’s trip to West Ham United. Izquierdo did make a positive impact off the bench but will struggle to oust either Knockaert or Solly March from the starting XI. Hunemeier will be on standby to replace Duffy at centre-back, while Brown is a viable alternative to Murray in attack with Tomer Hemed suspended.

Current Status: Fairly Settled
Risk Areas: Central defenders, flanks, lone striker

Burnley

Starting XI: Pope; Lowton, Tarkowski, Mee, Ward (Barnes 81); Brady, Cork, Defour, Arfield (Gudmundsson 46); Hendrick (Vokes 46); Wood. Subs not used: Lindegaard, Taylor, Westwood, Long.

  • What we saw: Clarets boss Sean Dyche unsurprisingly named an unchanged starting XI once again for the visit of West Ham United to Turf Moor. The home side switched from a 4-4-1-1 system to a more attacking 4-2-3-1 formation following the dismissal of Hammers striker Andy Carroll. That became a 4-4-2 at half-time, with Sam Vokes joining Chris Wood up front. Indeed, Burnley ended the match with three forwards, once Ashley Barnes entered the fray, with Robbie Brady covering the left flank after Stephen Ward had been replaced.
  • What we learned: With a trip to high-flying Manchester City up next, Dyche may well switch to a more defensive 4-5-1 formation. Jeff Hendrick could be used in a deeper midfield role next to Jack Cork and Steven Defour. Although he made a strong impact from the bench, Johann Berg Gudmundsson may struggle to earn a recall ahead of the more defensive-minded Scott Arfield.

Current Status: Settled
Risk Areas: Central midfield, flanks

Chelsea

Starting XI: Courtois; Azpilicueta, Luiz, Cahill; Moses (Zappacosta 40), Fabregas, Bakayoko, Alonso; Willian (Musonda 65), Batshuayi (Pedro 57), Hazard. Subs not used: Caballero, Rudiger, Christensen, Scott.

  • What we saw: After using a 3-5-1-1 formation in the 1-0 defeat to Manchester City, Antonio Conte switched back to a 3-4-2-1 system for the trip to Crystal Palace. Willian returned alongside Eden Hazard in the attacking midfield positions, with Michy Batshuayi stationed as the lone striker in the absence of the injured Alvaro Morata. David Luiz was back from suspension to start in central defence. Conte’s first substitution was an enforced one, with Davide Zappacosta replacing the injured Victor Moses at right wing-back. Hazard ended the match as a “false nine,” flanked by substitutes Pedro and Charly Musonda.
  • What we learned: The champions badly missed Morata at Selhurst Park, but the Spaniard could be ready to return from a hamstring injury against Watford in Gameweek 9. The Blues travel to Roma in the UEFA Champions League on Wednesday night, with Morata in line for a return. Pedro may push for a recall in place of Willian, while with Moses a major doubt due to a hamstring injury, Zappacosta could start at right wing-back. Cesar Azpilicueta is the other alternative in that position, with Antonio Rudiger and Andreas Christensen then options to start in central defence.

Current Status: Slightly Unsettled
Risk Areas: Right wing-back, central defenders, attacking midfield, lone striker

Crystal Palace

Starting XI: Speroni; Ward, Dann, Sakho, Van Aanholt; McArthur (Fosu-Mensah 85), Cabaye (Riedewald 86), Milivojevic, Schlupp (Puncheon 75); Zaha, Townsend. Subs not used: Tomkins, Kaikai, Sako, Henry.

  • What we saw: Eagles boss Roy Hodgson switched to a 4-4-2 formation for the home clash against Chelsea, with Wilfried Zaha returning from a knee injury to join Andros Townsend in attack. James McArthur came in on the right side of midfield, while Joel Ward was preferred to Timothy Fosu-Mensah at right-back. Hodgson switched to five-man defence late on, with Jairo Riedewald coming on for Yohan Cabaye. Fosu-Mensah was also brought on to operate just in front of Ward as Palace looked to hold onto their 2-1 lead.
  • What we learned: The return to fitness of Zaha proved to be a game changer for the Eagles after he was utilised centrally up front. After registering a first win of the season, it’s likely that Hodgson will name a similar starting XI for Saturday’s trip to Newcastle United. Ruben Loftus-Cheek could be available after being ineligible to face his parent club, providing he recovers from a groin problem. He is back in full training and expected to be in contention and could start up in support of Zaha, with Townsend shifted back to a flank role.

Current Status: Settled
Risk Areas: Central midfield

Everton

Starting XI: Pickford; Holgate, Jagielka, Keane, Baines (Mirallas 84); Schneiderlin, Gueye (Niasse 68); Vlasic, Sigurdsson, Calvert-Lewin; Rooney (Davies 90). Subs not used: Stekelenburg, Williams, Martina, Klaassen.

  • What we saw: Ronald Koeman decided to go with a 4-2-3-1 system for the trip to Brighton, with Wayne Rooney deployed as the lone striker. That saw Dominic Calvert-Lewin move to the left wing, with Gylfi Sigurdsson stationed as the No 10, and Nikola Vlasic on the right flank. Phil Jagielka returned from injury to replace Ashley Williams in central defence, while Mason Holgate was preferred to Cuco Martina at right-back. Koeman switched to an attacking 4-1-3-2 following the introduction of Oumar Niasse in place of Idrissa Gueye, with the substitute joining Rooney in attack. Then, after falling a goal behind, Koeman brought on Kevin Mirallas for Leighton Baines, seeing the visitors switch to a three-man defence.
  • What we learned: Following another patchy performance from Everton, there remains uncertainty over how they’ll line up ahead of the Gameweek 9 meeting with Arsenal. Niasse, Mirallas and Davies are the players most likely to push for recalls, while Rooney, Calvert-Lewin and Gylfi Sigurdsson could all theoretically switch positions in the forward line. Holgate may retain his start at right-back ahead of Martina, while Jagielka is likely to be favoured over the faltering Ashley Williams once again.

Current Status: Unsettled
Risk Areas: Right-back, central defenders, attacking midfield, flanks, lone striker

Huddersfield Town

Starting XI: Lossl; Smith, Jorgensen, Schindler, Malone (Lowe 81); Billing (Williams 60), Hogg (Mooy 46); Kachunga, van La Parra, Ince; Depoitre. Subs not used: Sabiri, Coleman, Cranie, Hadergjonaj.

  • What we saw: David Wagner kept faith in his usual 4-2-3-1 formation for the trip to Swansea City, although he decided to start with Philip Billing at the base of midfield in place of Aaron Mooy. The Australian was a late arrival back in England after representing his country over the international break but entered the fray at half-time in place of Jonathan Hogg. Scott Malone was handed his first start of the season in place of Chris Lowe at left-back. An injury to Billing then saw Danny Williams join Mooy in central midfield.
  • What we learned: Billing had to be stretchered off due to an ankle injury, and could be set for a lengthy spell on the sidelines. Mooy should return for the home meeting against Manchester United, then, with Williams an alternative to replace Hogg. Malone failed to impress on his first start, so Lowe may yet push for a recall at left-back, while Abdelhamid Sabiri is an option to replace Rajiv van La Parra in the attacking midfield positions. Steve Mounie was thought to be close to being available for the trip to south Wales following a heel injury, so the forward looks well placed to start in place of Laurent Depoitre in attack.

Current Status: Slightly Unsettled
Risk Areas: Left-back, central midfield, attacking midfield, lone striker

Liverpool

Starting XI: Mignolet, Gomez, Matip, Lovren, Moreno, Wijnaldum, Henderson, Emre Can, Salah (Oxlade-Chamberlain 78), Firmino (Solanke 87), Coutinho (Sturridge 78). Subs not used: Karius, Milner, Klavan, Alexander-Arnold.

  • What we saw: Jurgen Klopp decided to hand a recall to Roberto Firmino, with the Brazilian replacing Daniel Sturridge as the central striker in the usual 4-3-3 system. Philippe Coutinho operated on the left of the front three in the absence of the injured Sadio Mane, allowing Emre Can to return in central midfield.
  • What we learned: With Klopp not changing formation throughout the match, it’s expected that he’ll retain the same system for Sunday’s meeting with Tottenham Hotspur at Wembley. Firmino is likely to keep his spot as the central striker ahead of Sturridge, while the rest of the side may well stay unchanged. Tomorrow night’s Champions League clash away to NK Maribor could provide some clues as to whether any changes are likely for Gameweek 9.

Current Status: Settled
Risk Areas: Central Striker, right-back

Manchester City

Starting XI: Ederson; Walker, Stones, Otamendi, Delph; De Bruyne (Gundogan 66), Fernandinho (Toure 73), D Silva; Sterling, Jesus (B Silva 63), Sane. Subs not used: Bravo, Danilo, Mangala, Aguero.

  • What we saw: Pep Guardiola named the same side that beat Chelsea 1-0 for the visit of Stoke City to the Etihad, retaining the 4-1-2-3 formation. Sergio Aguero was fit enough to be named among the substitutes following a rib injury, although the Argentinian was ultimately unused from the bench.
  • What we learned: While City’s Champions League campaign resumes against Napoli tomorrow night, we continue to see Guardiola favour a settled starting XI, preferring to manage the minutes of his first choice players. His selection against the Italian side should provide major clues as to who will start against Burnley on Saturday, with Aguero likely to be a factor. Bernardo Silva, Ilkay Gundogan and Yaya Toure provide viable alternatives in midfield, while Danilo offers cover in the full-back positions. Unless Vincent Kompany is back from a calf injury, John Stones and Nicolas Otamendi should continue at the heart of the defence. But based on what we’ve seen so far this season, it’s unlikely we’ll see extensive rotation against the Clarets.

Current Status: Settled
Risk Areas: Forwards

Part two of Line-up Lessons, detailing the remaining ten teams, will follow tomorrow.

1,423 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Postbox12
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Thoughts on the below? Anything worth a hit?

    Elliott-Krul

    Alonso-Davies-Jones-Naughton-Tuanzebe

    Hazard-Salah-Gross-Ritchie-Carroll

    Kane-Jesus-Diouf

    Two ft's were Alli to Hazard and Firmino to Diouf

    1. Hedge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      I'd change Haz, Ritchie and Gross but not for a hit

    2. Postbox12
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Not a fan of Hazard?

      I was thinking of Sane or Sterling for Alli instead but I think Chelsea will need to start looking for more goals now given no Kante

      1. Hedge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Maybe, but I'd go Morata - proven form this year

  2. Atimis
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Some advices??

    Foster/Elliot
    Bavies/Jones/Cedric/Lowe/Mbemba
    Salah/Sterling/Ritchie/TC/Chalobah
    Kane/Kaku/Jesus

    1FT 1.5ITB

    I'm thinking about upgrading my 11th player and going 433 or 343 - Ota/Luiz or Chupo??

  3. I Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Anyone else deciding between captaining Kane and selling him? Not seeing any middle ground right now.

    1. Postbox12
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      I'm keeping but not captaining this week.

      Can't see an alternative that will score more points across the next say 3 fixtures but think he'll be outscored next week

      1. I Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Morata (WAT, bou) could easily outscore Kane (LIV, mun) in the next two. Could switch back in GW11 when Morata plays United and Kane has Palace.

        1. SADIO SANÉ
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          tbh I have considered this, and it could work very well but who knows

    2. Chris_White
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Keeping, but not captaining

    3. SADIO SANÉ
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      if Jesus plays 90 in CL I'll probably captain Kane, but if not I'll still keep - clear favourite for GW11 captaincy, Jesus can fill in until then if needed

      1. I Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        It's Palace but if Kane blanks at home to Liverpool will you really trust him with the armband in any fixture at Wembley?

        1. SADIO SANÉ
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          yeah, without doubt - I just maybe will temper my expectations, no other obvious option that week really

  4. The Big Fella
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    I have 2FT and I am debating downgrading Alli to Zaha to upgrade Chicharito to either Morata or Aguero. The question is, which one? I already have Jesus and Sterling for City and Alonso for Chelsea. Both have good fixtures coming up!

    1. Postbox12
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Morata is fit for the Watford game

      1. The Big Fella
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        How do you know? I still haven't read anything

      2. Scout Pics
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Link?

    2. Hedge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Def a good option. I'd make call based on how CL games go. Morata probably tips it if you have Jesus

    3. Jarnathan
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      I'd only do Alli to Zaha this week, especially with Spurs tricky fixture - and West Ham's favourable fixture. Then next week you can either upgrade to Morata or Aguero (or both if you want to replace Jesus)

      1. The Big Fella
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah that fixture is good and Carroll won't be playing meaning Chicharito may start as the central striker......

  5. shearer9
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Alli worth keeping? I need to get rid of Mkhi but don't mind keeping him one more week v Huddersfield. Sterling is the intended target, depending on CL minutes.

    1. Fpl Richie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      I'd do Alli to Sterling for the foreseeable if you have Kane

    2. Dybala10
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      I sold him. Gave him plenty of time but producing nothing to warrant keeping at that price. Downgrade and spend the money.

  6. Fpl Richie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Not exactly fpl but....
    8 games in and we have had a good look at the summer signings.

    Anyone care to venture thoughts on best and worst so far?

    Best: Richarlison, Salah
    Worst: Arnie, Ox
    Bargain: Zabaleta, Krychowiak

    1. JJO
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Add Matic to that first category and I totally agree

      1. Fpl Richie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Of course. Maybe even the best of all.

    2. DeathoftheParty
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Morata? Look average without him and Kante.

  7. Hardly Athletic
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    2FT, 0.0ITB and 0WC. What should I do? Team currently is:

    Foster - Elliot
    Alonso - Bavies - Zanka - Britos - Mbemba
    Eriksen - Silva - Mkhitaryan - TCarroll - Chalobah
    Kane - Jesus - Firmino

    a. Mkhitaryan > Sterling and save other transfer
    b. Kane > Aguero and save other transfer
    c. Mkhitaryan + Firmino > Sterling + Vardy
    d. Mkhitaryan + Firmino > Atsu + Aguero
    e. Mkhitaryan + Firmino > Richarlison + Morata
    f. Zanka + Mkhitaryan > Jones + Antonio/Zaha
    g. Something else

    1. Gashead9
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Why lose Mkhi before Huddersfield fixture?

      1. Fpl Richie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        True but everyone does say he's been awful lately. Not seen him play lately myself.

        1. Gashead9
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          I'll be getting rid, but want to replace for Coutinho and despite his poor form he has a good chance of returning points this week, Cout also has a difficult fixture so I will wait a week

        2. Fpl Richie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          For what its worth C looks good depending on tonight.

      2. Gashead9
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Zanka > Mee, Foster > Pope or Firmino > Vardy or downgrade to Abraham to get Couts or Salah in next week

      3. xuwei
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Because Sterling much more explosive?

    2. Hedge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      E

  8. 2cheesy
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Salah + Gross > Sterling + Richarlison
    For -4 makes sense? :/
    Got Silva tough

    1. Hedge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Maybe Salah > Sterling.

      Am considering that, but only because I have WC still

      1. Hedge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Gross > Richarlison is unlikely to be worth a hit

  9. Larry Kane
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    I have a feeling that Aguero will start in UCL tomorrow and Jesus will start on the weekend.

    1. FC Lackless [BALEGIUM]
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Hopefuly you have oracular powers

    2. Chris_White
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      I can see Jesus starting and getting another 60ish mins

      1. Hibbo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        I felt he got the 60mins at the weekend because of international travel and the game was well sown up.

        1. Chris_White
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Well yes, but it will be hard for Pep to bench Sterling or Sané in current form. Agüero cameo on the cards imo (seeing how well they are coping without him)

    3. Hedge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Jesus 90 mins, Ageuro 20-30mins I reckon

    4. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      They were playing together in the starting line up people seem to have this either or mentality about Aguero / Jesus.

      City have gone all out attack.

    5. Yozzer
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Other way round fo sure

  10. Larry Kane
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Bottomed RP.

    How's this for a potential WC team?

    Elliot
    Alonso vanDijk Daniels
    DSilva Sterling Sane Richarlison Zaha
    Kane Morata

    4.0 Abraham Tarkowski Mariappa

  11. Wiolini
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Assuming that Palace is on an upward slope and with their nice set of fixtures coming up, where to invest?
    Zaha is ofc obvious as lone striker atm, but any thoughts on Sakho, Van Aanholt, RLC, Townsend etc.?

    1. Hedge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Zaha and RLC probably worth punts at that price point

    2. Dybala10
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Townsend would be good at that price if he actually produced returns and not pointless shots.

  12. PlayPercentage
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Need to bench one of these three:
    Richarlison (che)
    Chopou-Moting (BOU)
    Joselu (CRY)

    Leaning towards giving Chopou the chop, at the moment.

    1. Hedge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Coupou

    2. Dybala10
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Probably Richarlison. Nice position to be in.

    3. Sune
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Joselu

    4. Pazdannavaro
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Richarlison. Chelsea are better at home and better defending then Arsenal do. They will go all out defence cause Conte dont want to loose again.

  13. jammerz888
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Stupid to have both Hazard and Morata from now? If not both then which one?

    1. Fpl Richie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Just one (Morata) until Haz fires up.

    2. Hedge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Morata all day long

  14. Scotty B
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Elliot
    Cedric Jones Alonso
    Salah Shaqiri Eriksen Ritchie
    Lukaku Kane Abraham

    Fabianski Bellerin Carroll Tuanzabe

    1 FT & 0.1 ITB

    What City player should I get this week? Can't carry on without any much longer with all of these goals they are scoring every week

    1. Hedge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Downgrade Alonso and swap Shaqiri/Ritchie to Silva or Sterling?
      If you don't want a hit, Kaku to Aguero or Jesus depending on CL

  15. CRO KLOPP
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    I can't believe that below city lineup lessons is written "current status; settled"

    1. JJO
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Well actualy it is pretty settled at least short to mid term
      1 of Jesus,Aguero,Sterling and Sane will be out of 11 and when all are fit its probably Sane
      Rest od the team is actually settled

      1. JJO
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        *Out of first 11

    2. Brap.
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Raisin an objection?

    3. Pazdannavaro
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      It is. Only injuries changes to starting eleven.

    4. CRO KLOPP
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Happy with that just can't believe it s true

    5. CRO KLOPP
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      I know it's settled, finally

  16. FPL ZB
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Gently drifting outside the top 100k, see you all later

    1. barracuda
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Poor you....

  17. Larry Kane
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    I am convinced that the optimal team should include two players > £10.0. One of these two players should be the captain each week, and they should be transferred in/out with other >£10.0 based on the following formula: (Fixtures x 65%) + (Form x 35%) = xP

    1. suddenorgan
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      So Sanchez GW10 then?

      1. Larry Kane
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Lacazette

        1. suddenorgan
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          you'd have to be very attached to your over £10m plan to ignore Salah/Coutinho that week

  18. The Big Fella
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    I have Alonso but I am debating selling him as Kante is out and he hasn't been producing the points you'd expect from the most expensive defender in the game. What do you guys think?

    1. suddenorgan
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      would give him the next two unless you're desperate for the cash, he looked dangerous vs. Watford

      1. Spike ⚽️
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Watford?

      2. The Big Fella
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Not desperate for cash but just looking to maximise points per £ spent. Do you mean Palace as it was Arsenal that played Watford?

    2. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Hold

    3. Freddo
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Said it in another post but he was very close to a goal and assist against Palace, hold your nerve with him, the fixtures are as nice as they get and he could reward you if you're patient.

      1. The Big Fella
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        That's what I have been telling myself. I think if I get Morata too then I could be well covered for points from Chelsea.

    4. Pazdannavaro
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      I would sell. Buy Jones.

    5. Deus
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Keep

  19. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Defoe to score against Stoke.

    Swans to blank against Foxes. Abraham > Defoe free.

  20. LIARS POKER
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Annoyingly went Cedric over Jones on WC.

    Worth doing the transfer before Cedric falls tonight? Southampton still got good fixtures but are dire.

    1. Freddo
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Cedric has been falling every night for the last two weeks.

      1. GuyIncognito
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah, people are clearly getting rid of Southampton defenders on wildcards for the most part.

    2. Jasօn
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Be patient they still have good fixtures. Their form will improve I'm sure of it and cedric looks lively.

    3. Pazdannavaro
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      He will fall now. Another blank. Massess going to sell. Glad I bought Yoshida.

  21. pakornk
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    I feel like week in week out it's a battle between Kane owners and non-Kane owners. The fact that Kane commands such a high price makes it such that teams cannot accomodate other premium strikers. And you could predict that if Kane blanks, the other 50% of teams will have strikers who will score more than half of Kane owners.

  22. Freddo
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Lukaku and Salah on the verge of drops.

    1. Az
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Nice thanks, worth me taking them out so I don't lose any .mils on them (On WC).

  23. Expected Goals and Assists Tables
    J0E
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Expected Goal and Assists Tables - just set up a couple of these with the new data now live.

    Players - http://members.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/public-stats-tables/view/21741/

    Teams - http://members.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/my-stats-tables/view/21742/

    Burnley are either going to continue being the luckiest team in the league - or Man City are about to unleash a massive hiding upon their very souls.

    1. Freddo
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      City won't rest until they beat someone 10 nil.

      1. J0E
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Given Burnley are currently conceding about half the goals they should have by now given the amount of shots they've allowed opponents ...it looks like they picked the wrong week to face City (in the voice of Lloyd Bridges in Airplane 2) . 🙂

        Now which City attacker to captain?

        1. Chris_White
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          The one who doesn't start against Napoli

          1. J0E
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Raheem on current team sheet form then.

            1. shearer9
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              Don't the xG stats suggest Raheem is seriously overperforming?

              1. Dino
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                6 years, 7 months ago

                Stats are only useful if they back up your argument, best to ignore them otherwise 😉

        2. Sconeaus - The Dude Abides
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Haha love it "guess I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue"

        3. Dino
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Are Burnley conceding any more shots than last year when ye were raving about their GK? If they only got the vs they deserved then Heaton would have been nowhere last season but the system they employ means trans get a lot of shots under pressure which don't see to go in. It is pretty unique and one of the flaws of expected goals or assist models (not every chance from a certain position has an.equal chance of being scored).

    2. Spike ⚽️
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      My guess is a bloody good thrashing

    3. suddenorgan
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      feel like they may just be spared a thrashing with a bit of fatigue from Champion's league game

      1. Chris_White
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        This. Plus maybe a bit of rotation.

      2. J0E
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Same sort of fatigue Jesus had when he played 180 mins for Brazil, including 90 on top of a mountain in the Andes, shortly before easing a brace past Stoke? 😉

        1. Freddo
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Jesus and fatigue should never be mentioned again as a negative, two International breaks, two starts, two braces.

          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Oh to be 20 again

        2. Dino
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Is this the same Jesus who had been used sparingly this season so would likely have been relishing the games? And the same Jesus who was taken off early?

    4. FC Lackless [BALEGIUM]
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      nice one ..thanks J

    5. I Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      How many games do you think xG and xA work best for? All matches or say 4-6 GWs?

      1. J0E
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Not sure yet. Currently like the Delta one that shows under and over performers....will look to get that into my goals and assists imminent tables I think.

    6. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Burnley make their own luck.

      There will be no goal-fest here.

    7. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Really like this xG stuff.

    8. I Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Man United almost as lucky as Burnley according to xG Conceded. Not sure I'm buying it.

      1. J0E
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        I think what it does show is quality of defence too. Do we think man u or burnley will regress? If so then they have overperformed. But if we think they will continue to be incredible then yes, ignore it.

        But given Burnley just conceded via a Joe Hart assist are we already seeing chinks in the mighty Clarets armour?

        1. I Member
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          I viewed that West Ham goal as more of a fluke situation that won't happen again than a sign of weakness.

        2. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          no

        3. I Member
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Also, surely one of the reasons United and Burnley appear lucky is because of their goalkeepers. They're conceding chances which are expected to be put away but De Gea and Heaton (and Pope I guess) are top notch shot stoppers.

          1. Dino
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            More to do with the defensive systems they are playing meaning the chance creator is generally under severe pressure leading to lower quality ball and the striker is also under pressure with defenders throwing bodies on the line. It is a flaw with xg and xa that they can't allow for the ability of teams to ensure chances from certain areas have a lower conversion rate. When this happens over a long period of time it can't be just put down as luck.

    9. Deus
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      How you calculate this? For me expected goals 1.3 for Abraham doesn’t make any sense

      1. J0E
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Depends on the filter - that sounds like it is for current gameweek in which case he pretty much scored as expected.

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Quick question Jonty, xG on Target is greater than xG Expected Goals for Abraham for example last GW?

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Oh, dear. That means he is excluded from my table ...

            1. TorresMagic™
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 14 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              It makes sense on 2nd though, too early in the morning. Is Alli on your table?

            2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              Nope. Sorted. He is a crap passer ...

            3. TorresMagic™
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 14 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              Abraham is there.

    10. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Can anybody join in this game? 😉

      Doosra's Exiguous Examples of Expected Goals:

      http://members.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/my-stats-tables/view/12222/

      Vote early, vote often! 😀

    11. RedLightning
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Why are there so many zeros in the xG and xA columns?

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        No shot at goal or assist attempt?

        1. RedLightning
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          But without changing the filters from 2016/17 all matches, xA is zero for all players and all teams, and xG and xG conceded are both zero for all teams apart from MCI, WAT and CPL!

          And even for these 3 teams, xG conceded appears to be per match whereas Goals Conceded appears to be per season, so all the delta figures are also rubbish.

    12. X Trapnel
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Fabulous to see these tables. Many thanks.

      1. darth_valdes
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Can someone explain this field?

        xG Delta (Goal - xG)

        If this is positive, it means they're scoring more than expected?
        i.e. over performing?

        Therefore, negative number is good?

        1. darth_valdes
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          argh reply fail

    13. McNulty
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Game changer!

      Interesting to see that Chelsea only have 7.57 xG which is almost half of all of the other teams that make up the top 6. That might indicate Hazard's price really is too much to pay right now with the other options available. Even Palace have a higher xG than Chelsea!

    14. Sgt Frank Drebin
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Why are there such discrepancies between xG on FFS and on understat (https://understat.com/league/EPL/2017) Aren't both of the stats provided by Opta? Like for example in the game against Bournemouth on understat Alli has 1.1 xG and here only 0.6 xG. That is a massive difference.

    15. Bezzer
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      City can't keep scoring like this... can they!?

    16. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Can we have a simple guide to xG and xA data, please?

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Ta, Ruth. V. Interesting!

    17. XabiAlonso
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Sorry for being dumb, does a +ve number mean they are expected to carry on scoring/score more goals in the future and -be mean they are a bit lucky and are unlikely to carry on scoring so many

    18. crxtchplz
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Burnley have been returning poor xGA numbers for years now but not regressing because they get bodies between the ball and the goal.

      xG does not factor in positions of players, just location of shots.

      Good article on it here: http://www.playedoffthepark.co.uk/exploring-expected-goals-with-stratabet-data-part-one-under-pressure/

      1. Page 302
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Warning: There is a highly disturbing full screen image hiding behind that link.

    19. Econ Man
        6 years, 7 months ago

        I'm not impressed. Doing some statistical tests, it looks like the expected goals model over at Understat is superior.

        1. Econ Man
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Regression results were sort of funny, actually:

            xG = 2.576*understat_xG - 1,707*ffs_xG

            For the Understat_xG parameter the t value was 3.62, while it was -2.26 for FFS_xG.

          • X Trapnel
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            some sort of succinct summary of why you think Understat is superior would be helpful. A lot of people (or me anyway) won't understand more complex statistical language, so plain English would be helpful please!

        2. G-Whizz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 6 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Maybe I'm looking at all this xAnything wrongly.

          To me it tells me if a player is currently under performing or over performing but is that really an indicator of future performance?

          1. X Trapnel
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            will be interested to hear the reply. If we can have xG projected into the future then it potentially is a real game-changer, especially if it starts proving to be correct in most cases. But I guess, as with all stats, it will be based on probablility and so variables like those mentioned above - Burnley getting bodies in the way, etc - may keep it from completely automating our sides and ignoring huge swathes of players.

        3. Hotdogs for Tea
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          I think you need to be very careful using these stats as anything but a useful guide.

          The name xG and xA is misleading as these stats do not take in to account actual goals scored or assists. Perhaps xCG and xCA for chance of goal or chance of assist is a better name.

          In the table, Chelsea who are the fourth highest scorers with 13 goals lag back in 15th for expected goals?, whereas Palace with 2 goals sit at 9th, Everton with 5 goals at 11th and 7 goal Soton at 8th.

          The expected goals stats takes no account it seems of actual goals scored, the quality of the players trying to score the goal, shots on target, long range shots (Coutinho etc always seems to score a screamer and these goals would not even register as an attempt on goal or be at best a lowly rated chance) and the effectiveness of defenders who block chances, nudge forwards off the ball as they are about to shoot etc.

          A player or a team that has good effective scorers (Chelsea) that don't need a lot of chances may have a low xG in comparison with player or team (Soton) that can't hit a cow's arse with a banjo

          ... use with caution ...

          1. X Trapnel
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Great post, thanks.

          2. Dino
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            The other things they don't do is allow for fixture difficulty or game state so very difficult to use them for forward projections.

            E.g. Chelsea have had a very tough fixture list and therefore would not have had the chance to get as many great chances as some of the other teams. They have also tended to mind what they have when they were in a leading position possibly due to the difficult fixture list (game state).
            Going forward the fixture list opens up for Chelsea and therefore you would expect them to dominate teams more and have higher xg and xa but people on here seem to be looking at teams with low goals and high xg as a predictor of future goals. This may prove to be the case of fixture strength is equal and if the teams ability to score goals increases but it may also be the case that the team are poor finishers and their conversion rate won't increase regardless.

            Tldr stats need to be taken in context

        4. Feyzi
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          How can we discover the bug of xG's and xA's? Look at this, for instance: Stoke defender Edwards, who played 52 minutes this season and conceded 3 goals, has a minutes/xGi of 182.8. That is nowhere possible... This ludicrous assessment must somehow be due to the fact that Stoke managed 2 goals whilst Edwards was on the pitch (conceding 3 goals). So we are to assume that, statistically, if Edwards gets 4 more games like that, he will do something.. No way...

          My question to all is, where is the bug of xGs and XaS? In other words, if we are to benefit from these, how should we interpret this data, with which reservations? Every statistic has its flaws and bugs and we must master that of xG and xA in order to win...

      • RubberDucky
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Here I am stuck in Hurricane Ophelia and the best I can do is contemplate a potential WC this week.

        • Olee
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Still early days...but any thoughts on this lot?

          Foster
          Davies-Jones-Cedric-Naughton
          Eriksen-Salah-Sterling
          Kane-Morata-Vardy

          Elliot-Carroll-RLC-Long

          1FT, 0,6ITB

          1. Woy_is_back
            • 6 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Coutinho over Salah

            1. Olee
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              Then I think I would rather have none of them, and get Silva/Sane instead. That transfer feels very sideways.

            2. Adams6
              • 10 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              Nah

        • Woy_is_back
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          I think Pep will bench Sane against Napoli and start him against Burnley or is it wishful thinking?

          1. Beatle
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Dreams are free

        • Stimps
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Best way to fit another city attacker here? Current squad, 0.7m itb

          Foster (Elliot)
          Cedric Jones Kolasinac Bavies
          Eriksen Coutinho Silva (RLC, Carroll)
          Kane Lukaku Joselu

          A) Lukaku -> Aguero/Jesus
          B) Coutinho -> Sterling
          C) Joselu, Eriksen, Kolasinac -> Jesus, Richarlison, 4.5m def (-4)
          D) Lukaku, RLC, Kolasinac -> Morata, Sterling, 4.5m def (-4)

        • FPL Kangaroo
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Jaysus it a wee bit windy outside lads isnt it?
          I reckon I will lose power when the leicester match is on later 🙁
          Stay safe my fellow countrymen.

          #StormOphelia

          1. Jasօn
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Selfish I know but I'd love it if the match was postponed )

            1. FPL Kangaroo
              • 6 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              Haha scenes...but nah should be fine.

            2. Goat
              • 6 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              I would enjoy that as tom carroll’s 8 points would come off my bench

        • A19
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Thoughts on below?

          A) Kane Morata Jesus and Sterling as 3rd mid
          B) Kane Aguero Morata and Richarlison as 3rd mid + 1.0 itb

          I think A is more balanced but B has Aguero and it looks like he'll play the most minutes as the lone striker comparing to Jesus. He also is more captain material..

          1. Woy_is_back
            • 6 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            A

          2. Larry Kane
            • 6 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            A

          3. Pazdannavaro
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            A

          4. A19
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Thanks guys!

        • Benster
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Aguero vs Jesus?

          Assuming both are fully fit which would you rather have for the next 7 fixtures BUR, wba, ARS, lei, hud, SOT, WHU:

          a) Aguero
          b) Jesus + 0.8

          1. Dybala10
            • 6 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            I'm looking at bringing in Aguero from Arsenal onward actually. Just feel he is a safer pick for points and minutes. Not sure what that is based on other than gut feeling.

          2. Pazdannavaro
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Right now Jesus is more secure and its always Pep favourite.

          3. walkman666
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Aguero. When fit, it seems Jesus sometimes only plays 60 minutes or so.