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Can Werner offer FPL value compared to Chelsea midfielders in 2020/21?

Timo Werner (£9.5m) has the potential to offer Fantasy Premier League managers value during his debut campaign in English football.

The German striker arrives at Chelsea as one of the most sought-after in Europe and, if he were to replicate his RB Leipzig form of recent seasons, could make a mockery of his initial £9.5m price-tag.

With goals and assists a real possibility in 2020/21, Fantasy managers should certainly keep an eye on Werner.

We have examined his 2019/20 exploits to assess whether or not he can deliver on that promise, and compete with new colleagues Christian Pulisic (£8.5m) and Hakim Ziyech (£8.0m) for a place in FPL squads.

READ MORE: Our Scout Report on Chelsea midfielder Hakim Ziyech

The History and Statistics

Werner joins Frank Lampard’s evolving Chelsea squad with a wealth of goal-scoring experience that not many players can boast at the age of 24.

This is a man who made 100 Bundesliga appearances before he hit 21 before going on to light up the Champions League too.

But for all his explosive potential as a complete forward, ‘Turbo Timo’ started his professional career as a left-winger in the youth setup at local club VfB Stuttgart.

During his three full seasons with Die Roten, between 2013 and 2016, he mustered just 13 goals in 95 senior Bundesliga appearances.

Despite earning a reputation for acceleration and pace, Werner was initially accused of being a selfish player who did not gel particularly well with those around him.

As a result, his quickness in the final third only yielded Werner nine assists for Stuttgart during those three years as a senior player in Baden-Württemberg.

However, a €10 million move to newly-promoted RasenBallsport Leipzig in 2016 propelled Werner into the coveted player he is today.

It was in Saxony that the player was converted to a striker, retaining a tendency to drift into positions on the left-hand side of the field but adding a ruthless accuracy to his game and increased awareness of how to link-up with those around him.

That unique style of play worked wonders for Werner and Leipzig as he scored 21 goals in his new role, the most of any German in the Bundesliga in 2016/17, adding five assists.

That contribution led to the newly-promoted club finishing second and qualifying for the Champions League for the first time in their relatively short history.

Across the continent’s elite competition and the Europa League, Werner netted seven times in 11 appearances during 2017/18, adding another 13 goals and seven assists in the Bundesliga. After two years of impressing on home soil, he was called up to the German national team and has since found the net 11 times in 29 caps for Die Mannschaft.

In 2018/19, Werner started displaying his explosive potential. Reaching 10 goals for the campaign on December 16, it meant that every time he scored so far that season, he went on to complete a brace. Perhaps an interesting thing to look out for in the Premier League. Could it suggest a likeness to Harry Kane‘s (£10.5m) trademark feast-or-famine approach? Only time will tell.

It took the forward until August 2019 to get his first Bundesliga hat-trick, racked up in a 3-1 win at Borussia Mönchengladbach. But he did not have to wait long for his second, netting three times in an 8-0 win over Mainz, adding three assists in the same match.

Those contributions helped Werner to his best-ever Bundesliga campaign, ending 2019/20 with 28 goals and eight assists in 33 starts and one substitute appearance. Robert Lewandowski’s 34-goal haul was the only thing that stood between him and the Golden Boot award.

As a result, Liverpool, Manchester United and Bayern Munich were all heavily interested in Werner, Chelsea turning heads by eventually winning the race for his signature.

Leaving Leipzig with 78 goals in 127 Bundesliga appearances, the German international arrives at Stamford Bridge as the complete forward, well-known for his explosive pace, accurate finishing and ability to play team-mates through on goal with his capability in wide areas.

Werner has also earned a strong reputation for penalty-taking, dispatching 13 competitive spot-kicks from a possible 16 so far, netting each one awarded to him since October 2018, the date of his last miss.

Comparisons

2019-20Mins per shotMins per shot in the boxMins per shot on targetMins per key pass
Tammy Abraham25.228.163.5105.8
Olivier Giroud25.629.452.6124.9
Mason Mount36.879.899.056.3
Christian Pulisic27.432.669.057.5
Timo Werner *22.828.443.953
Hakim Ziyech **18.255.852.220.8

The Prospects

Werner is likely to fill a void in Chelsea’s attack, notably a centre-forward who can be trusted to link well with the rest of the front-three as well as delivering goals with ruthless regularity.

As you can see from the comparisons referenced above, the German compared favourably to Tammy Abraham (£7.5m) and Olivier Giroud (£7.0m) in 2019/20 when it came to goal threat.

Remembering, of course, that these numbers were not recorded in the Premier League, Werner shot more frequently last season than Chelsea’s two centre-forwards.

While there was not much to separate the trio for minutes per shot in the box (Abraham: 28.1 | Werner: 28.4 | Giroud: 29.4), Werner was the clear winner when it came to accuracy.

Well-known around Europe’s top leagues for composure in front of goal, Werner’s penchant for a shot on target will go a long way to improve on what Abraham and Giroud offered last season.

As you can see from the comparisons above, the German international registered an accurate attempt on goal every 43.9 minutes in the Bundesliga. By comparison, Abraham managed one over 63.5 minutes and Giroud was even further behind on 52.6.

Werner’s shots were often of high quality too. In 2019/20 he recorded an expected goals per 90 figure of 0.62. Lewandowski and Ciro Immobile were the only players across the Premier League, Bundesliga, Serie A and Ligue 1 to record a better score there.

We often apply something of a dampener on players coming to England’s top-flight from overseas, as the standard of football is generally higher across the division compared to others. However, in Werner’s case, it is harder to discuss this mitigating factor as we know the player is capable of starring in the Champions League and has already scored against Premier League defences.

Werner’s skill-set is also something that has been somewhat lacking from Chelsea’s attacking under Lampard. While he does know how to use his pace to burst away from a chasing defence, 2019/20 has seen Werner develop an excellent understanding of how to find space against deep blocks – something that Chelsea have struggled to break down under Lampard. The former Leipzig man has often been seen making runs across opposing defences, starting from an initially offside position, arriving in space in front of them, ready to receive the ball and turn, either to pass or shoot.

With Werner likely to improve Chelsea’s goal-scoring capabilities in 2020/21, his arrival is also good news for the attacking assets around him in terms of assists.

When Lampard has no injury concerns, Pulisic and Ziyech are the most likely to flank the German, the latter likely to be the chief beneficiary of Werner’s goal threat. The combination of both players could be exceptionally deadly when you consider how frequently Ziyech created chances last season and how often Werner landed a shot on target.

However, we should also consider the German’s own assist potential. As you can see from the table above, Werner was infinitely more creative than Giroud and Abraham in 2019/20.

He played a key pass every 53 minutes in his final Bundesliga campaign, which was also superior to Pulisic and Mason Mount (£7.0m) as well as Chelsea’s existing forwards.

Combining the strong goal threat, potential for assists and an important role in penalties (now that Willian (£8.0m) has departed and Jorginho (£5.0m) is out of favour), there is every reason to believe that Werner can earn his £9.5m price-tag and then some. Those comparing him with Pulisic and Ziyech will notice that the extra £1.0m/£1.5m is effectively spent on a greater chance of goals and a hand in penalties. That might be too much to pay for some, but if Werner does hit the ground running in the Premier League, he is sure to build up ownership quickly as a potential captain option.

There are Fantasy managers who have expressed concern about the German’s positioning, considering he is capable of playing on the left flank of attacking midfield or a front-three. Pulisic does appear rather nailed-on on that side of the Chelsea team so Werner is probably only going to play there if Lampard’s wider options are completely depleted. Do not forget that Kai Havertz could also be in the squad by the start of 2020/21 so it does seem unlikely that a wide role will be Werner’s regular assignment under Lampard. 

That said, as we already mentioned earlier on, he does still have a tendency to drift to the left. It will be interesting to see what impact this will have on the Chelsea team – and Fantasy managers watching on.

Could it initially cause some issues for Chelsea if he were to drift out of his furrow and tread on Pulisic’s toes and leave the team lacking its spearhead? This is certainly something Lampard will have to look out for.

By contrast, such runs could still have some advantageous effects from a Fantasy perspective with the right input from the Chelsea boss. Werner drifting left could result in a dovetail effect with Pulisic, whereby he drifts into the open space unmarked, not unlike the relationship between Anthony Martial (£9.0m) and Marcus Rashford (£9.5m). That could bode well for the American midfield asset, who is, of course, £1.0m cheaper than Werner.

Either way, Fantasy managers must remember that these runs from Werner have not massively diminished his activity in the penalty box, such are the effectiveness of his pace and movement. Even though he often drifts left, Werner averaged 6.6 touches in the opposition box per 90 in 2019/20. For some context, Roberto Firmino (£9.5m) was the busiest Premier League forward in the penalty area last season, registering 231 touches there (best among forwards), working out at 6.77 per 90.

READ MORE: Our Scout Report on Chelsea midfielder Hakim Ziyech

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1,237 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Clucas
    • 4 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Hey Fpl friends, do you receive an error when trying to pick your team? Is this a known issue or smth? Thanks

    1. Wild Card this...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Nope. New to me.

    2. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      If you're on the app try the website, and vice versa.

    3. stuymac
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Had the exact same problem, uninstall the app and download it and log in again. Fixed for me.

  2. No Professionals
    • 3 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Increasingly drawn to double pool defence as taa is basically a dead asset if everyone has him.

    McCarthy
    TAA VVD Saliba Vinagre
    Salah KDB Fernandes ASM
    Werner Mitrovic

    Button Soucek Ferguson Davis

    Rotate 2 from ASM, Soucek and Saliba.

    Can’t see where to get the 0.5 from to make VVD Robertson?

    1. JVALDEZ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Pool defense looked awful since restart.

    2. Wild Card this...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      TBF we play for points so formation should reflect expected returns in same price bracket...I expect VVD to outscore 6.5 forwards.

    3. Jordan.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      agreed about taa, same thing with saurez a few years ago ,the only winners were those with sturridge or sterling as well ,robbo in for me as well...

    4. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Nothing wrong with VVD over Robertson. I've been thinking about this move too but VVD should start every minute and has scored at about the same sort of rate as Robbo the last two seasons.

      1. No Professionals
        • 3 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        What do you think to the team in general?

        1. Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Looks great - I am almost exactly the same but have Doherty, Greenwood and Ziyech for Saliba, Salah and ASM

  3. specc
    • 3 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Is there any way to check final standings in leagues from the year just gone?

  4. Major League Shocker
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 1 Year
    6 months, 10 days ago

    What are your tips for not falling too far behind when saving the first Wildcard until around Christmas?

    I really want to save it this time with lots of DGW's anticipated in Jan/Feb.

    1. No Professionals
      • 3 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Pick an initial team for the first few weeks not just the first 2. And make transfers based on not just 1 gw.

      1. Major League Shocker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Cheers, I already tend to look at about 6 weeks of fixtures, so maybe it won't be as hard as I fear.

    2. Ze_Austin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Trust your decisions that involve the fewest transfers possible for the maximum effect on your overall score

      If you're going to spend transfers, it should almost never be because of what you think will happen in one GW alone, but 4-6+ future GWs, except if that transfer is for a captain who'll stay in your side long term

      Don't start with a team that takes 4 transfers to switch one bandwagon-worthy price point (premiums, 8.5s and 6.5s in attack, 4.5s to 5.5s in defence)

      Premium defenders do not move from your team until they're injured/suspended/unexpectedly rotation prone/obviously trash

      Note: these are tips for delaying a wildcard

      1. Inazuma X1
        • 3 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        ''Don't start with a team that takes 4 transfers to switch one bandwagon-worthy price point (premiums, 8.5s and 6.5s in attack, 4.5s to 5.5s in defence)''

        What does this mean? Can you give an example?

        1. Ze_Austin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Truly sorry. Just saw this after a new page started

          There are teams with BOTH 5.5m mids and 6.0m attackers, and/or four premium attackers. In these teams, it's hard to simply downgrade one cheap option to upgrade the other when the inevitable 6.5m+ bandwagons arise, and then a premium/8.5m attacker or defender will have to go to fund the move, but these premium/8.5m players would have only provided value long term or as regular captain choices. This is what Joe says about playing the price points

          For defence, you'd want a 4.5m starter or bench player who can become 5.5m when guys like Wan-B, Aurier or Tierney inevitably make a mockery of their price point, or an easy switch to a fellow 4.5m D who's doing well with good fixtures. This reduces number of transfers needed for flexibility, thereby delaying a wildcard

      2. Major League Shocker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Great, much appreciated!

  5. Would Ed Woodward
    • 2 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    https://www.football365.com/news/man-utd-22-penalties-totally-objective-analysis

    A look at all the pens awarded to Man Utd this season and if they should've been given.

    1. SADIO SANÉ
      • 5 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      if the one against Tottenham is actually a penalty then football is just as lame as basketball

    2. Ze_Austin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Thanks! Needed this confirmation bias to go with my Bruno permacap plan

      1. Would Ed Woodward
        • 2 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Something else I took from that article is just how involved and dangerous Rashford was earlier in the season, he's such a streaky confidence player, he's unstoppable when he gets going and very wasteful/ineffective when he's not feeling it.

        1. Ze_Austin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Yup. Staying away until he proves to be on a streak that actually beats (not just matches) (P)enaldo Fernandes + Greenwood

          1. El Presidente
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 1 Year
            6 months, 10 days ago

            You mean Penbruno Fernandes

    3. FOO FIGHTER
      • 1 Year
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Fergie is still running the show looks like it...

  6. Super Saints
    • 4 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Boom boom boom

    Ryan
    TAA VVD Doherty Taylor
    Salah KDB Fernandes Soucek
    Jimenez Wood
    Nyland Stephens Ferguson Davis

    1. JVALDEZ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Would prefer Ings over Jimi. Get the 4mil Brighton keeper also.

      1. Super Saints
        • 4 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Ings/Jimi will depend on fixtures.
        Good shout with Button

      2. Wild Card this...
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Uhhhh....I don’t think so tbf...Ings will definitely get injured at some point. Jimmy has been really consistent so far.

        1. JVALDEZ
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          22 goals and 2800 mins last season.

  7. Pep Roulette
    • 3 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Thoughts on this lot?

    Meslier (Nyland)
    TAA Taylor Vinagre (Ferguson Mitchell)
    Salah KDB Bruno Ziyech Alli
    Antonio Mitro (Brewster)

    1. JVALDEZ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Not keen on Alli.

    2. LangerznMash
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Nice differential in Alli, a Jose favourite capable of returning in any fixture.
      You are really hoping Taylor plays with 2 x 4.0 on your bench.

      1. Wild Card this...
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        One of those 4.0 will definitely play until rest of CP defenders recover.

    3. Fulgencio Obelmejias
      • 11 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Get rid of Alli for anyone!
      Well anyone except Ozil or Lallana.

    4. FreddyP3
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Is Meslier nailed?

  8. headfried
    • 7 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Team, barring something major... Chiwell is the one im wavering on, but there is plenty to choose from at the 5.5 price point. as for Liverpool coverage, moves can be made as the league progresses.

    Patricio
    Tierney, Aurier, Chiwell.
    Pereira, Bruno, KDB, Auba, Soucek
    Timo, Mitro

    Subs. Nyland, Dallas, Lamptey, Wickham

    Any thoughts, criticism.... Have at it.

    1. JVALDEZ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Very different, I like it.

  9. davies
    • 6 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Anyone else considering perma-capping KDB this season?

    (Apart from Salah home bankers ofc)

    1. JVALDEZ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      not for me

    2. drughi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      will be shifting between salah and KDB all season, boring but probably very effective

    3. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      May get the bulk but never perma-cap - too inflexible.

    4. Lindelol
      • 2 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      what's the fun in it? 😀

    5. Little Red Lacazette
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Will be a Salah/KDB switch I think.

    6. Ze_Austin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Got it on Pernandes except when glaringly obvious that I should cap TAA, KDB/Sterling, Pulisic/Ziyech or Doherty instead. Pretty much just carrying over from what I regretted not doing in Project Restart, except if things change drastically

    7. Major League Shocker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      6 months, 10 days ago

      I do like the KDB/Bruno rotation idea, given that one Manchester club is always at home.

    8. Jordan.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      you and maybe his mum

  10. Gol D Roger
    • 6 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Any compiled lists of nailed on defenders at 4-4.5 ?
    (I don’t mean just covering an injury)

    1. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      None at 4 but too many at 4.5 to mention.

  11. OneMan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Will Willian at Arsenal

    And Abraham at Chelsea be nailed this season ?

    1. Pointerlou
      • 10 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      yes and no IMO

    2. Rainer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Probably.

      Absolutely not.

    3. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Tammy prob #3 in the sole striker pecking order now.

  12. Little Red Lacazette
    • 4 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Not too many Salah takers this season - 25.9% owned. I believe last season he had more than 50% ownership in GW1.

    1. Would Ed Woodward
      • 2 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      His opening game was also against Norwich though.

    2. Rainer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      If FUL appears tomorrow as his GW1 fixture like NOR last season, he’ll be heading in that direction quick.

      1. Ze_Austin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        https://twitter.com/ExWHUemployee/status/1295677246611632128?s=20

        Fixture announcement has been shifted, apparently. Just the longer wait now...

    3. LangerznMash
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      because he is in decline.

      1. SHOOTER MCGINN
        • 5 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Most people realise this 🙂

    4. Ze_Austin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      I guess people have learnt from two seasons in a row where he didn't get 32 goals?

      17/18: Salah 32 : 10 Mane. Total: 42
      18/19: Salah 22 : 22 Mane. Total: 44
      19/20: Salah 19 : 18 Mane. Total: 37

      In each of these two seasons, Salah brutally beat Mane for goal stats (especially shots) but not nearly that much for actual goals

      We were a one-man team for ONE season, and then finished 2nd and 1st in the seasons where we weren't, yet there's still some expectation that we'll have Salah blow everybody else in the team away again. This is simply not how we play anymore. What makes it even worse is that Salah and Mane rarely hauled together last season, giving you quite the split... While KDB (an assist merchant) ran away with the FPL points

      1. Little Red Lacazette
        • 4 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Makes sense. Will you have Salah if LIV have an "easy" GW1 fixture?

        1. Ze_Austin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Nope. I'll cap TAA

      2. Goonsquad245
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Salah can be the standout option in the game without scoring 32 goals in a season.

        You're falling into the same results-oriented trap as many others.

        1. Ze_Austin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          One of the best options? Yes. Standout? No

          Auba mid, Mane, Sterling, KDB and Bruno have everything an asset needs to be within 20 points more or less than him by the end of the season, barring major injuries or loss of key personnel or other unexpected scenarios

          32 goals made him stand out, heads and shoulders, with 300 points. 18/19 had Sterling and Mane within around 20 points, but Bruno wasn't in the league yet, KDB was injured, and Auba was a forward. Last season really brought it all to light, but Auba was still a forward, Sterling had his form fall off a cliff and didn't get anywhere near his usual output of assists, and Bruno only played 14 games

          Following the trend puts Salah in top 5 again this season with others at/around his points, not a standout option

          1. Goonsquad245
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            In your opinion, no. Which is fine. As I've said multiple times, it's largely down to personal preference and what you believe - either approach could work, and because of variance it'll be impossible to tell at any point which is the 'right' one. You seem to be posting in a manner that suggests it's really obvious what everyone should be thinking, which is wrong.

            Here's my opinion:

            He doesn't have to be that much better than Mane or Auba to make him the standout over those two, because he's the same price. He doesn't even have to be THAT much better than KDB/Sterling either once you factor in the captaincy. 20 points is probably about right.

            Bruno is the one that can challenge him for value at 10.5 - he's had a good start and might keep it up, but it's by no means certain. If I was placing money on players finishing over 220 points, he'd be the last of the elite bunch I'd bet on.

            1. Ze_Austin
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 2 Years
              6 months, 10 days ago

              I understand where the issue here lies. We have different definitions of what it means to stand out, so we won't agree there, because I believe "stand out" to mean "that much better" with absolute certainty (save for injuries or the Sterling-like dip in form), which he was in 17/18, but he wasn't last season. It's fine

              1. Goonsquad245
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                6 months, 10 days ago

                OK - that's fine, we can just settle on 'best' option rather than 'standout' then 😛

    5. COK3Y5MURF
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      1. Because at the start of last season, every big team other than Man City and Liverpool were rubbish in comparison. Since the restart, United assets have come into the picture and cost a bit more now. Chelsea assets also look promising. Midfielder Auba.

      2. He had Norwich

      3. He's in decline

    6. Goonsquad245
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      It's delicious.

      1. Little Red Lacazette
        • 4 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Well, I have him currently.

    7. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Madness I'd say. He's first name on my team sheet.

    8. Brosstan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      He Will be in 50% teams after community shield

  13. Sune
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Early shout at first penalty taker in each team?

    ARS: Aubameyang
    AVL: Grealish
    BHA: Maupay
    BUR: Wood
    CHE: Werner
    CRY: Milivojevic
    EVE: Sigurdsson
    FUL: Mitrovic
    LEE: Bamford
    LEI: Vardy
    LIV: Salah
    MCI: De Bruyne
    MUN: Fernandes
    NEW: Ritchie
    SHU: Norwood
    SOU: Ings
    TOT: Kane
    WBA: Austin
    WHU: Noble
    WOL: Jiménez

    1. Rainer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Klich at Leeds as they’d like the penalty scored.

      1. Sune
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Klich 2/3
        Bamford 2/3

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      SOU: JWP - Ings only took last one as he had a shout at Golden Boot and missed.

      1. Sune
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Scored/taken

        JWP: 1/3
        Ings: 2/3

    3. LangerznMash
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Leeds = Klich

      1. Sune
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Cheers

    4. Inazuma X1
      • 3 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      WOL: Reckon Neves shares with him and could be a first choice now

      CHE: Havertz could take them too, still not sure.

      1. Sune
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Thanks!

        Jiménez scored 4/4 in PL.

    5. LangerznMash
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Ageuro will be pen taker when he is on the pitch.

      1. Sune
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Cheers.

        Agüero 2/3
        KdB 2/2

      2. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        No he won't.

        KdB is first choice PK taker now I'm almost sure of it.

        1. Ze_Austin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          I think so too

          1. Major League Shocker
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 1 Year
            6 months, 10 days ago

            Yes, there was definitely a quote from Pep to the effect of, we used to have a lot of trouble with penalties, but now that Kevin takes them, we don't have a problem anymore.

  14. Miguel Sanchez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Thoughts on this zombie team for the missus?

    Ryan (Button)
    TAA VVD Doherty (Taylor - Ferguson)
    KDB Bruno Grealish Soucek (Stephens)
    Vardy Jimenez Mitrovic

    Perma cap KDB or Bruno with other VC?

    1. Udo
      • 3 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      You should be afraid of her, she might gonna beat you!

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        I wish I were as interested as her. KDB or Bruno for perma cap?

        1. Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          *uninterested

          even bothered to look up the difference between uninterested and disinterested!

    2. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Get her some flowers for her birthday instead, she'll like them more.

  15. Lindelol
    • 2 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Does the team id changes every season? If so where can i find the Id as there is no points tab right now.

    1. Gregor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 11 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Yeah, go to View Gameweek history and it’s in your URL.

      1. Lindelol
        • 2 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        thanks!!

  16. Pedram
    • 7 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Thoughts on this early build?

    Ryan - Nyland
    Trent - Virgil - Vinagre (Douglas - Ferguson)
    Salah - KDB - Bruno - Saint Maximin (Lundstram)
    Werner - Mitrovic - Davis

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Not sure you can rely on Davis

  17. Guba
    • 5 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Gonna be horrible getting burnt this season on any postponed matches due to Covid. Makes bench potentially more important.

    1. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Extra risk in making early transfers too.

    2. Ze_Austin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      And if the matches don't get postponed, you lose points gained from spending that money in your XI

      Also, due to form, fixtures and pricing, there'll be a limited pool of teams from which you'll choose benched players. This limited pool can also have their games postponed due to Covid-19. Then there's the issue of what happens in the many matches that don't get postponed where the more expensive first XI assets that you don't have do well, and then there's a limited pool of assets expected to do well, so you can have your Pool/Wolves/Manchester/Chelsea matches postponed but you've got two/three form players missing out

      Yes, the bench is more important. But this might make you only spend... 0.5m extra? I don't see a good reason to put the type of money you'd have to put to regularly get two/three replacements off the bench with good points, as most people have a good first sub anyway

      1. Guba
        • 5 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Yeah I agree, I'll still be going light on the bench too and rolling with the punches on luck. As you say if you price too much on bench you get burnt anway maybe. Just know it's going to hurt!

  18. Super Saints
    • 4 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Theres 2250 points without doing anything.

    Ryan (150)
    TAA (200) VVD (200) Doherty(150) Taylor(100)
    KDB (C) (500) Salah(250) Fernandes (250) Soucek(100)
    Ings(200) Wood(150)

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Am looking at a similar ghost team for the missus.

      1. Dr. Rog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        A ghost team needs a good bench.

        1. Super Saints
          • 4 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          It's not a ghost team just a safe team to start with

    2. Goonsquad245
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      If only it were that simple eh!

    3. Inazuma X1
      • 3 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Players are subject to performance risk.

      Captaincy wins you FPL and has way more potential upside than 500 if actively managed than a passive perma captaincy.

      1. Super Saints
        • 4 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        I get my captaincy wrong nearly every week, I think over 30 times last season!

    4. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Salah & 4.5 fwd > Jimmy & 4.5 mid = 50 less points but 3.5 more budget

      Taylor > Robbo = +100 points for 2.5 extra
      Soucek > Laporte = +50 points for 1.0 extra

      You're now 100 hundred points better off & 2350 🙂

      Ryan (150)
      TAA (200) VVD (200) Doherty(150) Robbo(200) Laporte (150)
      KDB (C) (500) Fernandes (250)
      Ings(200) Wood(150) Jimmy(200)

      1. Super Saints
        • 4 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Haha I thought someone might do this.

        That's my new team, thanks for the top 100k

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          2350 was basically top 10k last year!

          Spike a good chip or two & you're looking at top 5k easy

      2. Super Saints
        • 4 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        I'm 0.5 short!!!!

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Ah that'll be the 4.0 defender

          Wood > Mitro & take 25 points less

          Or maybe 25 points more 😉

    5. LangerznMash
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      If you follow the pattern of Salah's points he will get 210 this coming season.

  19. FOO FIGHTER
    • 1 Year
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Matheus Pereira at 6m?That is quite tasty.

    1. Gregor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 11 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Yeah, might be the best option at that price now.

    1. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Nice. It reinforces my feeling that like Buendia last season, a great playmaker with no one ahead to convert the assists is too frustrating.

  20. OneMan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Best midfielder for 8m or less ???

    Who will be the top mid priced midfielder this season ?

    1. Super Saints
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Greenwood if he keeps his starting spot

      1. Andy_Social
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Yeah, If man U don't get Sancho or anyone, it's got to be Greenwood.

    2. Gregor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 11 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Foden or Ziyech maybe.

    3. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Ziyech if he starts well and gets his confidence up

  21. GoodFella93
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    What do we think as a template lads? Got room for flexibility. Eyes on Chelsea players/Kane/Aguero.

    Ryan (Button)
    TAA - KWP - Dallas - Taylor (Alying)
    Salah - Sterling - Rashford - Foden - Harrison
    Ings (Wood) (£4m)

    £1.5m itb

  22. Camzy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    I think you could build an extremely competitive team this season for 95m. It's become an embarrassment of riches which means rotating among the top players is probably going to be the best way to play based on fixtures/form.

    1. JVALDEZ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      let's see your 95 mil team.

      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        McCarthy Nyland
        TAA Saliba Vinagre Ayling Ferguson
        Salah KdB Ziyech Greenwood Soucek
        Antonio Mitrovic Vassilev

        5.5m ITB. I would gladly start with this team.

        1. Udo
          • 3 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Could work, but there are at least 5 ?marks which could get you into trouble from day 1! But it might work alright, only time will tell.

    2. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      We might have to for GW1 if the Mancs are missing.

    3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Planning to leave money ITB coming out of the gate

      Too hard to predict which forwards will be firing straighta way - so starting with the old faithful salt of the earth Jimmy & Ings with funds ITB

      1. Udo
        • 3 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        I am thinking of going big up front and add Kane to those two of yours, and react on the "gate" entries, plus getting into the mids firing it up depending on those early days of the season.

        Lots of tinkering happening currently,......

      2. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Why not just start with Werner and move if he doesn't deliver? He'll either blank or get two anyway. Better to start out punting on explosive options than get on the bandwagon late...

        I have a very different approach than most this season though, admittedly. My biggest problem is playing too safe and too much like the template.

        I want to be aggressive from the start this year. Double or triple on teams with good fixtures and then I can mini WC or outright WC to fix issues. I'd rather go down early swinging at guys like Werner, Rashford, Sterling, Foden than picking solid reliable season keepers like Auba, Jimenez, Ings, Grealish type of players.

        I might even start with Liverpool double up too as a differential if the fixtures are kind. We will see.

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Mainly because I see Jimmy & Ings as good FPL assets in their own non-captainable, slow & steady kind of way - in the absence of fixtures (which makes all of this pretty hypothetical & therefore subject to huge change) I'd trust Jimmy & Ings in GW1 more than Werner

          If Werner *does* happen to need a few games to settle (which doesn't make him a bad player), you can bet he'll have a price fall or three into the bargain, making him even better value for if/when he does find his feet

          And if he explodes GW1 - the FT & Funds are there to hop on board

          Kind of a best of both worlds/playing the percentages type scenario

      3. Andy_Social
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        I'm starting with 2 Mancs on the bench as Son in as a one-week placeholder. GW2 - 1FT for Kev, Bruno and Greenie off the bench. Others can wait until GW4 for 2FT - maybe even GW5 post-TDD/Int Break for final assemblage. No hits, no chips.

  23. ThisPostsOnFire
    • 4 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    How does this team sit with you??

    McCarthy (Gunn)

    TAA, Robo, Doherty, Dallas (Taylor)

    KDB, Fernandes, Son, Jota, Trossard

    Martial, (Brewster, other fodder striker)

    ****Brewster is with the hope of him getting****

  24. JJeyy
    • 5 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Sterling seems better value then Auba with a .5 saved and should have scored much more last season

    1. Hy liverpool
      • 7 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Auba was playing alone.. This season he has willian partey and tierney/pepe fully fit... They might get coutinho too.

    2. JVALDEZ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      He had several months of awfulness which is stopping me.

    3. Super Saints
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      'should have' unfortunately he's crap at finishing, Auba will score even higher this season now he's a mid!

      1. Goonsquad245
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        What if I told you Sterling actually marginally overperformed his xG in the end, and it was actually his teammates that let him down by not finishing the chances he laid on for them?

        1. JJeyy
          • 5 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          exactly should have had 5/6 more assists

  25. inactive
    • 10 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Mark Noble should do the honorable thing and give penalties to Soucek.

    1. El Presidente
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Or Antonio

    2. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Don't you mean the Noble thing to do?

      1. inactive
        • 10 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        I see what you did there

    3. Rainer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      I agree, I’ve never seen Soucek miss one...

      1. Hy liverpool
        • 7 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Remove "miss one"

      2. inactive
        • 10 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Come to think of it, Soucek should probably be West Ham captain

  26. El Presidente
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 1 Year
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Im going heavy in defense & Midfield, and two 6M up front.

    1. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Cool

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        I did a lol 🙂

    2. Super Saints
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      There aren't two 6m up front

      1. Andy_Social
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Mitro and Adams. Not exactly prolific.

  27. One Wheels Enough
    • 1 Year
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Considering not have Mo...

    McCarthy
    Doherty VVD
    Salah
    or
    Pat
    TAA Robbo
    8.0 (Willian?)

    It'll involve a lot of sofa's but can TAA/Robbo compensate?

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      First group by some but not sure I rate how you have spent teh Salah funds and don't like Willian as an option

  28. Eastman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Traore anyone?

    1. Shatner's Bassoon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Firmly in the "wait and see" camp. Foden / Jota at that price might be way better picks.

  29. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    I’m determined to have a good fpl season 2020/21.
    My strategy will be playing patiently, not making transfers for one week punts, only taking hits if absolutely necessary, not taking risky captain choices, own less differentials (maybe 1 or 2 max), plan long term, not just 3 gws in the future, use eye test over stats, don’t play WC early, play BB on DGWs, FH on blank gws, set and forget 4.5 gk, don’t always have to spend all budget (money itb is ok)

    Easier said than done but I’m going to try and stick with this strategy!

    1. COK3Y5MURF
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      A lot of these look very obvious

    2. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      I'm going to have more differentials this year. Double up more aggressively on good fixtures/form teams and be bolder with selections rather than have a blend that is too safe.