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Can Werner offer FPL value compared to Chelsea midfielders in 2020/21?

Timo Werner (£9.5m) has the potential to offer Fantasy Premier League managers value during his debut campaign in English football.

The German striker arrives at Chelsea as one of the most sought-after in Europe and, if he were to replicate his RB Leipzig form of recent seasons, could make a mockery of his initial £9.5m price-tag.

With goals and assists a real possibility in 2020/21, Fantasy managers should certainly keep an eye on Werner.

We have examined his 2019/20 exploits to assess whether or not he can deliver on that promise, and compete with new colleagues Christian Pulisic (£8.5m) and Hakim Ziyech (£8.0m) for a place in FPL squads.

READ MORE: Our Scout Report on Chelsea midfielder Hakim Ziyech

The History and Statistics

Werner joins Frank Lampard’s evolving Chelsea squad with a wealth of goal-scoring experience that not many players can boast at the age of 24.

This is a man who made 100 Bundesliga appearances before he hit 21 before going on to light up the Champions League too.

But for all his explosive potential as a complete forward, ‘Turbo Timo’ started his professional career as a left-winger in the youth setup at local club VfB Stuttgart.

During his three full seasons with Die Roten, between 2013 and 2016, he mustered just 13 goals in 95 senior Bundesliga appearances.

Despite earning a reputation for acceleration and pace, Werner was initially accused of being a selfish player who did not gel particularly well with those around him.

As a result, his quickness in the final third only yielded Werner nine assists for Stuttgart during those three years as a senior player in Baden-Württemberg.

However, a €10 million move to newly-promoted RasenBallsport Leipzig in 2016 propelled Werner into the coveted player he is today.

It was in Saxony that the player was converted to a striker, retaining a tendency to drift into positions on the left-hand side of the field but adding a ruthless accuracy to his game and increased awareness of how to link-up with those around him.

That unique style of play worked wonders for Werner and Leipzig as he scored 21 goals in his new role, the most of any German in the Bundesliga in 2016/17, adding five assists.

That contribution led to the newly-promoted club finishing second and qualifying for the Champions League for the first time in their relatively short history.

Across the continent’s elite competition and the Europa League, Werner netted seven times in 11 appearances during 2017/18, adding another 13 goals and seven assists in the Bundesliga. After two years of impressing on home soil, he was called up to the German national team and has since found the net 11 times in 29 caps for Die Mannschaft.

In 2018/19, Werner started displaying his explosive potential. Reaching 10 goals for the campaign on December 16, it meant that every time he scored so far that season, he went on to complete a brace. Perhaps an interesting thing to look out for in the Premier League. Could it suggest a likeness to Harry Kane‘s (£10.5m) trademark feast-or-famine approach? Only time will tell.

It took the forward until August 2019 to get his first Bundesliga hat-trick, racked up in a 3-1 win at Borussia Mönchengladbach. But he did not have to wait long for his second, netting three times in an 8-0 win over Mainz, adding three assists in the same match.

Those contributions helped Werner to his best-ever Bundesliga campaign, ending 2019/20 with 28 goals and eight assists in 33 starts and one substitute appearance. Robert Lewandowski’s 34-goal haul was the only thing that stood between him and the Golden Boot award.

As a result, Liverpool, Manchester United and Bayern Munich were all heavily interested in Werner, Chelsea turning heads by eventually winning the race for his signature.

Leaving Leipzig with 78 goals in 127 Bundesliga appearances, the German international arrives at Stamford Bridge as the complete forward, well-known for his explosive pace, accurate finishing and ability to play team-mates through on goal with his capability in wide areas.

Werner has also earned a strong reputation for penalty-taking, dispatching 13 competitive spot-kicks from a possible 16 so far, netting each one awarded to him since October 2018, the date of his last miss.

Comparisons

2019-20Mins per shotMins per shot in the boxMins per shot on targetMins per key pass
Tammy Abraham25.228.163.5105.8
Olivier Giroud25.629.452.6124.9
Mason Mount36.879.899.056.3
Christian Pulisic27.432.669.057.5
Timo Werner *22.828.443.953
Hakim Ziyech **18.255.852.220.8

The Prospects

Werner is likely to fill a void in Chelsea’s attack, notably a centre-forward who can be trusted to link well with the rest of the front-three as well as delivering goals with ruthless regularity.

As you can see from the comparisons referenced above, the German compared favourably to Tammy Abraham (£7.5m) and Olivier Giroud (£7.0m) in 2019/20 when it came to goal threat.

Remembering, of course, that these numbers were not recorded in the Premier League, Werner shot more frequently last season than Chelsea’s two centre-forwards.

While there was not much to separate the trio for minutes per shot in the box (Abraham: 28.1 | Werner: 28.4 | Giroud: 29.4), Werner was the clear winner when it came to accuracy.

Well-known around Europe’s top leagues for composure in front of goal, Werner’s penchant for a shot on target will go a long way to improve on what Abraham and Giroud offered last season.

As you can see from the comparisons above, the German international registered an accurate attempt on goal every 43.9 minutes in the Bundesliga. By comparison, Abraham managed one over 63.5 minutes and Giroud was even further behind on 52.6.

Werner’s shots were often of high quality too. In 2019/20 he recorded an expected goals per 90 figure of 0.62. Lewandowski and Ciro Immobile were the only players across the Premier League, Bundesliga, Serie A and Ligue 1 to record a better score there.

We often apply something of a dampener on players coming to England’s top-flight from overseas, as the standard of football is generally higher across the division compared to others. However, in Werner’s case, it is harder to discuss this mitigating factor as we know the player is capable of starring in the Champions League and has already scored against Premier League defences.

Werner’s skill-set is also something that has been somewhat lacking from Chelsea’s attacking under Lampard. While he does know how to use his pace to burst away from a chasing defence, 2019/20 has seen Werner develop an excellent understanding of how to find space against deep blocks – something that Chelsea have struggled to break down under Lampard. The former Leipzig man has often been seen making runs across opposing defences, starting from an initially offside position, arriving in space in front of them, ready to receive the ball and turn, either to pass or shoot.

With Werner likely to improve Chelsea’s goal-scoring capabilities in 2020/21, his arrival is also good news for the attacking assets around him in terms of assists.

When Lampard has no injury concerns, Pulisic and Ziyech are the most likely to flank the German, the latter likely to be the chief beneficiary of Werner’s goal threat. The combination of both players could be exceptionally deadly when you consider how frequently Ziyech created chances last season and how often Werner landed a shot on target.

However, we should also consider the German’s own assist potential. As you can see from the table above, Werner was infinitely more creative than Giroud and Abraham in 2019/20.

He played a key pass every 53 minutes in his final Bundesliga campaign, which was also superior to Pulisic and Mason Mount (£7.0m) as well as Chelsea’s existing forwards.

Combining the strong goal threat, potential for assists and an important role in penalties (now that Willian (£8.0m) has departed and Jorginho (£5.0m) is out of favour), there is every reason to believe that Werner can earn his £9.5m price-tag and then some. Those comparing him with Pulisic and Ziyech will notice that the extra £1.0m/£1.5m is effectively spent on a greater chance of goals and a hand in penalties. That might be too much to pay for some, but if Werner does hit the ground running in the Premier League, he is sure to build up ownership quickly as a potential captain option.

There are Fantasy managers who have expressed concern about the German’s positioning, considering he is capable of playing on the left flank of attacking midfield or a front-three. Pulisic does appear rather nailed-on on that side of the Chelsea team so Werner is probably only going to play there if Lampard’s wider options are completely depleted. Do not forget that Kai Havertz could also be in the squad by the start of 2020/21 so it does seem unlikely that a wide role will be Werner’s regular assignment under Lampard. 

That said, as we already mentioned earlier on, he does still have a tendency to drift to the left. It will be interesting to see what impact this will have on the Chelsea team – and Fantasy managers watching on.

Could it initially cause some issues for Chelsea if he were to drift out of his furrow and tread on Pulisic’s toes and leave the team lacking its spearhead? This is certainly something Lampard will have to look out for.

By contrast, such runs could still have some advantageous effects from a Fantasy perspective with the right input from the Chelsea boss. Werner drifting left could result in a dovetail effect with Pulisic, whereby he drifts into the open space unmarked, not unlike the relationship between Anthony Martial (£9.0m) and Marcus Rashford (£9.5m). That could bode well for the American midfield asset, who is, of course, £1.0m cheaper than Werner.

Either way, Fantasy managers must remember that these runs from Werner have not massively diminished his activity in the penalty box, such are the effectiveness of his pace and movement. Even though he often drifts left, Werner averaged 6.6 touches in the opposition box per 90 in 2019/20. For some context, Roberto Firmino (£9.5m) was the busiest Premier League forward in the penalty area last season, registering 231 touches there (best among forwards), working out at 6.77 per 90.

READ MORE: Our Scout Report on Chelsea midfielder Hakim Ziyech

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1,237 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Shark Team
    • 3 Years
    6 months, 10 days ago

    Tempted to try a formation with 5 defs for the first time:

    Ryan
    TAA Doherty Saliba Vinagre Taylor
    Salah KDB Fernandes Greenwood
    Werner

    Bench: Nyland Bissouma Davis Vasillev

    What do you think? I really like it but I should wait for the fixtures first

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      I can’t see you sticking with it TBH

    2. KAALI_DAAL
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Think 5 defenders is doable if you plan ahead with fixtures in hand.

      • el polako
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        5 at the back was the flavour of last year's pre season, didn't last long.

        1. mox81
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Adriiaaannnn!!!!

      • SADIO SANÉ
        • 5 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        think you could do with all-nailed defenders with attacking threat if you're going to do that

      • Trophé Mourinho
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        6 months, 10 days ago

        If I go 5 at the back its:
        TAA - Doherty - VVD - Vinagre - Robbo

      • Amey
        • 2 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        If i was going 5 atb it'd be:

        Taa Robbo VVD Doherty Shaw

      • Would Ed Woodward
        • 2 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        I'm struggling with which defenders to leave out, I think all the ones you listed plus VVD and Laporte are amazing value.

        1. Trophé Mourinho
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Im kinda keen on Laporte but think he possibly gets rotated with Ake, which will be annoying

          1. Andy_Social
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            Well I am 5 at the back - never varied from it although the 5th defender's identity has.

            TAA-VVD-Robbo-Vinagre and 4.5 of the day. Before the fixtures are out Taylor is penciled in there.
            I made adjustments in the expectation that the Mancs sit out GW1 - it seems they will play mid-week GW1 so I'll revert to an earlier draft where Doherty is the other defender: 3 Liverpool, 2 Wolves.

            1. Trophé Mourinho
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 1 Year
              6 months, 10 days ago

              if Wolves have good fixtures its on, 6mil for Doherty is great value. How did he lose value? idk

            2. Whiskerz
              • 7 Years
              6 months, 10 days ago

              I like the idea of 5 at the back but wouldn't want 3 pool. Too many eggs. I know they can produce even if they concede, but i still want cleanies and the option to fit a pool forward easily.

            3. Amey
              • 2 Years
              6 months, 10 days ago

              Having thought about it earlier today i did one right now:

              Ryan
              Taa Robbo Doherty VVD Shaw
              KDB Bruno Pulisc Armstrong
              Jimenez

              Nyland Bamford Soucek 4.5

              Looks freaking awesome. Only issue is not having Mane Salah but KDB Bruno should take care of ©

              Can get Auba IN too for KDB if a plum fixture is on the horizon

              1. Trophé Mourinho
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 1 Year
                6 months, 10 days ago

                Looks good, oen of my drafts at the moment is:
                McCarthy
                TAA - Doherty - VVD - Vinagre - Robbo
                Auba - Grealish
                Ings - Jiminez - Kane

                Auba and Kane in the air tho, could be KDB and Bruno

                1. Amey
                  • 2 Years
                  6 months, 10 days ago

                  Shaw Bamford can be Vinaigre Mitrovic too 😮

                  1. Trophé Mourinho
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 1 Year
                    6 months, 10 days ago

                    I've been crunching numbers (some hypothetical). This squad is probably the highest scoring squad I can find as a set and forget (depending on the two premiums I choose)
                    I would like Lloris but means losing Grealish, and getting ASM and Soucek for a rotation, but idk think i'd prefer Grealish with good fixtures rather then that.

                    1. Amey
                      • 2 Years
                      6 months, 10 days ago

                      No KDB Bruno means risky business

                      1. Trophé Mourinho
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 1 Year
                        6 months, 10 days ago

                        tbh they are my original picks, I jsut thre them out in case they blanked. And this is what I would do in that scenario.
                        So yea in reality it has those two

                        1. Trophé Mourinho
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 1 Year
                          6 months, 10 days ago

                          So if Man City and Man U do play GW1 then this would probably be my side:
                          McCarthy
                          TAA - Doherty - VVD - Vinagre - Robbo
                          KDB - Bruno - Grealish
                          Jimi - Ings
                          (Nyland, Soucek, Gordon, Ferguson)

                        2. Amey
                          • 2 Years
                          6 months, 10 days ago

                          Nice

          2. Would Ed Woodward
            • 2 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            He's definitely the one I want least out of all the ones I mentioned but I still think it's a very good price for the best defender of a team you'd expect to be near the top of the cleansheet rankings.

      • Our Tiny Servant
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        If you’re playing 5-4-1 then you have to be ok playing those defenders every week. No way are you going to play Taylor against Liverpool or City.
        You have to downgrade a premium here to get a playable Mid or Fwd.

        1. Shark Team
          • 3 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Ok how about downgrading Fernandes and Werner to Ziyech and Martial. This allows me to get Robertson and Shaw instead of Taylor and Vinagre/Saliba

          1. Our Tiny Servant
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            Works better

      • LangerznMash
        • 4 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        I'm torn between 541 and 451. I think both are great.
        4.5 (Nyland)
        TAA, VVD, Doherty, Ayling, Vinagre
        Auba, KdB, Fernandes, Klich (4.5)
        Werner (2 x 4.5)

        I actually think this looks better than my 451 with Ziyech.

        1. Shark Team
          • 3 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Yes I agree with you. I am a big fan of Ayling pick but I can't play him every week, though I like another 541 with Ziyech which allows me to play my defs every week:

          Ryan
          Taa Doherty Saliba ROBBO SHAW
          Salah Kdb ZIYECH Greenwood
          MARTIAL

    3. Richard Richard (AKA: Anzhi…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Just dropping in to remind everyone that Mat Ryan is a terrible pick regardless of price.
      Thanks.

      1. Trophé Mourinho
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        6 months, 10 days ago

        lol, is he? Some of his stats look decent.
        But yes owning him is probably pretty awful

      2. Little Red Lacazette
        • 4 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        McCarthy/Martinez then.

        1. Andy_Social
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          If Martinez has the gloves in the Commy Shield, it's him for me. Otherwise whichever of McCarthy and Ryan have the best opening fixtures.

      3. Amey
        • 2 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        I have only 8.5 for GK's
        Ryan Nyland atm.
        Can get McCarthy based on fixtures too

      4. A Kun & Mateta
        • 7 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Only 2 goals more goals conceded than il Papa for 1m less.

      5. Ser Davos
        • 5 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Think it's the Button up element that gets folk lured in.

        Who's this year's Pope?

        1. Holmes
          • 7 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Dubravka

        2. Major League Shocker
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Maybe Johnstone for the pen saves? Reminiscent of Etheridge from Cardiff.

        3. Karhumies
          • 8 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Ramsdale?

    4. Galza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Ryan
      TAA / Saliba / Vinagre
      Mason / Auba / KDB / Pereira / Son
      Werner / Mitro

      McCarthy / Ayling / 4.0 / 4.5

      Auba may become Salah and I will probably go for Ramsdale + a 4.0, if he comes in at 5.

      Any thoughts on this lot...?

    5. Amey
      • 2 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Bobby had most touches per 90 in box !!
      😮

      Wish he was slightly selfish. Would have been a better alternative to the xG guy .…..

      1. COK3Y5MURF
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        He was in the team of the season in 17/18. Useless the last two seasons

        1. Amey
          • 2 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Maybe slight change in playing style by Klopp ?

          All attackers points are going down while those Defenders keep racking up points 😮

          1. COK3Y5MURF
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            The departure of Coutinho, I believe. After he left, they switched to the 433, and Mane and Salah became the main goalscorers.

            1. Amey
              • 2 Years
              6 months, 10 days ago

              Yep.
              Agree with that

      2. Would Ed Woodward
        • 2 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        He's never gonna be a prolific goalscorer, it's just not his role in the team and he's excellent at what he does so I doubt it'll ever change.

        1. Amey
          • 2 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          You're right. I believe he's a better pen taker than Salah. But Salah & GB means he won't get them

      3. AuFeld
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        FWIW, he massively underperformed his xG (non-penalty) last season. Only McGoldrick was worse.

        1. Amey
          • 2 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Hmm
          He's so badly priced by FPL. Literally non option sadly

          1. AuFeld
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            I agree. 9.5m and he's never recorded more than 181 points in a season. Jim and Ings have higher ceilings for 1m less.

            1. Amey
              • 2 Years
              6 months, 10 days ago

              Hell, Robbo VVD have higher ceilings, let alone Taa

    6. Coaly
      • 8 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      RMT

      McCarthy
      TAA VVD Doherty Taylor
      Salah KDB Greenwood Souczek
      Werner Ings

      4m fodder, Stephens, 4m def, 4.5m fodder

      1. Steevo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Excellent - I’m surprised this is affordable

      2. Galza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Nothing wrong with that.
        Nice 11...

      3. Our Tiny Servant
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        as long as you’re happy with Taylor and Soucez mostly not returning

      4. Andy_Social
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Terrific First XI (although I'd have Jimi over Ings). Bench is deadwood, offering nothing if anyone is rested.

    7. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 11 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      I was messing around and decided to make a middle aged team. Light at the back, thin up top and very wide in the middle. 3-5-2
      Gambles on on of the 4.0m defenders starting. Treble city midfield.

      Martinez (Button)
      Vinagre-Braithwaite-KWP (Douglas, Ferguson)
      Sterling-KDB-Aubameyang-Salah-Foden
      Adams-Antonio (Davis)

      Could probably change Adams to Bamford and another 4.5 defender.

    8. Ser Davos
      • 5 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Interesting combo

      McCarthy

      TAA | VVD | Robertson | Vinagre
      Auba | KDB | Bruno | Greenwood
      Ayew

      Nyland | Mitchell/Johnson | Brewster | Davis

      1. Galza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        I quite like it.
        Hats off to you, IF you’re ballsy enough to go for it.

      2. Amey
        • 2 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Spreading the Auba money to get Martial/Jimenez for Ayew & Pulisc for Auba can be great option IMO.

      3. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 11 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        I had treble lfc defence gw1 last season be warned! Had no KDB, Salah or Sterling though!

        https://i.imgur.com/DqlzLlO.png

      4. Gomolon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Would rather have Doherty over VVD or Robbo so you're not so heartbroken if Liv don't keep a clean sheet (also easier to switch to Salah/Mané if they get off to a great start)

    9. Major League Shocker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      6 months, 10 days ago

      Martial has great home stats, but with only 4 points for a goal now, will he ever be worth captaining?

      Or should we just stick with Bruno(c) for all favorable United fixtures?

      1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        He is capable of scoring hat tricks! Tricky to know when it's coming though.

        1. Major League Shocker
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Yeah, Lateriser's secret weapon along with Aguero!

          1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            What a brilliant FPL manager he is

      2. Over Midwicket
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        He will hog the baps because of his chance creation meaning he'll get more assists. Strikers who get a goal and assist for example always get 3 baps.

        1. Major League Shocker
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          6 months, 10 days ago

          That's a great point. He has a reputation for being bad at baps, but could turn that around and surprise people.

        2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Makes me want him even more

    10. fc_skrald
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      A player from each of the three promoted teams in my team now...

      Ayling, Pereira and Mitrović

      1. Galza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Snap!
        Was hoping Pereira was going to come in at 6.

    11. BerryMaze
      • 3 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      First attempt.

      McCarthy (Martin)

      TAA VVD Doherty (Pieters, Ferguson)

      KDB Greenwood Song Pereira (Stephens)

      Werner Jimenez Antonio

      Any thoughts on this one?

      1. Galza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Got a nice look about it.
        Have you considered...

        VVD + Antonio >

        Robbo + Mitro

        1. BerryMaze
          • 3 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Thanks! Definitely something i am considering. For now, on VVD and Antonio, because VVD will play each game and Robbo might get rested at times (didnt Pool just bought a new young WLB?). Antonio vs Mitrovic is a coin-flip in my mind.

    12. xiMoxiee
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      What formation are you guys going for?

      1. fc_skrald
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        3-4-3

      2. A Kun & Mateta
        • 7 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Whatever one fits in Aub, not 3 upfront anyway.

      3. Holmes
        • 7 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Not sure, depends on fixtures. Have made draft with 3-5-2/3-4-3/4-4-2/4-5-1/4-3-3/5-4-1

      4. Would Ed Woodward
        • 2 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        No idea, I think most of the best value players are defenders but not sure I have the patience for 5 at the back.

      5. SADIO SANÉ
        • 5 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        depends on Wolves fixtures really

      6. Gomolon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        352/442/343 (Got Soucek as 5th mid and three playing forwards which gives the flexibility)

      7. Brosstan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        4-5-1 or 4-4-2

      8. Andy_Social
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        5-2-3/4-3-3

      9. LangerznMash
        • 4 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        Only thing I am set on is just 1 upfront (Werner).

      10. Hairy Potter
        • 5 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        4-3-1 as my core plus 2 others depending on fixtures.

    13. Steevo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 months, 10 days ago

      RM442

      McCarthy | Nyland
      TAA | Doherty | AWB | Vinagre | 4.5
      Salah | KDB | Greenwood | Soucek | 4.5
      Werner | Martial | 4.5

      1. inactive
        • 10 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        One of the better ones. Not sure about triple United though.

      2. Vazza
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Looks good

      3. Gomolon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        6 months, 10 days ago

        I've named my team with a Timo pun (Werner Bros.) so I'm basically obligated to have him in my GW1 team right :')

        1. Vazza
            6 months, 10 days ago

            Yes, without a doubt

          • Lebowski85
            • 8 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            Yes

        2. dunas_dog
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          Updated initial draft to this. What are thoughts on this set up ( accepting need to check against fixtures and whose likely to start)?

          McCarthy
          TAA Taylor Vinagre
          Salah Sterling Greenwood Foden
          Werner Martial Mitrovic

          Nyland Saliba Ferguson Gordon

        3. Jacky boy
          • 4 Years
          6 months, 10 days ago

          wow it's literally ffs template team !

          https://www.premierleague.com/news/1755209

          it gets harder each year

          1. Brosstan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            Spoon feeding is reaching ridiculous levels

          2. SADIO SANÉ
            • 5 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            the casual exists no more

          3. Amey
            • 2 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            I don't see an issue in it. Before joining this community i literally didn't know about hits take points away/thing like OR/ Blanks means no games for your players ....

            I'm glad they are helping new players in the game. This is going to be a global game.

            1. Vazza
                6 months, 10 days ago

                Needless to say, you have become a key member and it’s great to have you as part of the community.

          4. SADIO SANÉ
            • 5 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            did anything obvious happen with Mahrez? got a nice little run of games there for a bit and then Pep went back to hatin' again

            1. Jurgener kopit
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              6 months, 10 days ago

              I am not sure but his stats are good

            2. St Pauli Walnuts
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 2 Years
              6 months, 10 days ago

              Pretty odd, seems to have fallen out of favour with Pep and nothing to pinpoint why.

          5. Soto Ayam
            • 1 Year
            6 months, 10 days ago

            Which do you prefer?

            A) vvd, soucek
            or
            B) robbo, stephens\ other 4.5 mid

            Either mid will be 1st sub in a 442

            Cheers

            1. St Pauli Walnuts
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 2 Years
              6 months, 10 days ago

              A for sure

              1. Soto Ayam
                • 1 Year
                6 months, 10 days ago

                Cheers

          6. Jacky boy
            • 4 Years
            6 months, 10 days ago

            tried a salah-less draft. looks pretty strong to me! thoughts ?

            Ryan
            TAA VVD Vinagre Saliba
            KDB Fernandes Rashford Ziyech
            Werner Antonio

            4x fodder.

            1. Our Tiny Servant
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 4 Years
              6 months, 10 days ago

              Very very nice

            2. Vazza
                6 months, 10 days ago

                Looks good

            3. GTJERSEY
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              6 months, 10 days ago

              I am looking at this starting team, although initial fixtures could mean the odd change or three:

              Ryan
              Wan-Bissaka / Vinagre / Ferguson
              De Bruyne / Salah / Fernandes / Ziyech
              Antonio / Mitrovic / Werner

              Button / Stephens / Taylor / Dallas

              Thoughts?

            4. LangerznMash
              • 4 Years
              6 months, 10 days ago

              A) VVD + Doherty
              B) Ziyech + 4.5 defensive rotation pairing

              When it's written down it looks pretty obvious right?

              1. Our Tiny Servant
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                6 months, 10 days ago

                Obvious yes

            5. Super Frank
              • 7 Years
              6 months, 10 days ago

              What do you think?
              Ryan
              TAA - Gomez - Egan - Vinagre/Taylor
              Mahrez - KDB - Bruno - Ziyech
              Jimenez - Martial
              Button - 4.5 Mid - Ferguson - Davis

              1. Our Tiny Servant
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                6 months, 10 days ago

                Works

            6. unclesbasement
                6 months, 10 days ago

                What do you guys think of this team.

                Ryan(Martin)
                Tierney,TAA,Vinagre(Taylor,Ferguson)
                Ziyech,Auba,KDB,Greenwood,Pereira
                Mitrovic,Werner(wickham)

                1. Our Tiny Servant
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 4 Years
                  6 months, 10 days ago

                  Balanced

                2. Vazza
                    6 months, 10 days ago

                    Very nice

                  • tc93
                    • 2 Years
                    6 months, 10 days ago

                    Great team- be careful about greenwood tho- if sancho comes his gametime will be under threat

                  • tc93
                    • 2 Years
                    6 months, 10 days ago

                    and imo you need salah in there too!

                3. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
                  • 11 Years
                  6 months, 10 days ago

                  I did this draft spend fairly heavy up front and in midfield

                  Martinez (Button)
                  KWP-Taylor-Vinagre (Braithwaithe-Ferguson)
                  Aubameyang-KDB-Soucek-Salah
                  Werner-Martial-Antonio

                  1. GREEN IS GOOD
                    • 4 Years
                    6 months, 10 days ago

                    nice, shame you can't squeeze in ASM instead of Soucek

                    1. Ole's at the wheel
                      • 6 Years
                      6 months, 10 days ago

                      Soucek better option imo

                  2. tc93
                    • 2 Years
                    6 months, 10 days ago

                    Needs trent

                4. Vazza
                    6 months, 10 days ago

                    Which trio is better-

                    A. Doherty, Salah, Martial
                    B. Robbo, Bruno, Werner

                    Please provide reasons if possible.

                    1. RED_ARMY
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 4 Years
                      6 months, 10 days ago

                      a

                    2. Noah’s Ark
                      • 8 Years
                      6 months, 10 days ago

                      Player v player it is a complete toss up to me. This choice should really come down to fixtures.

                      I think I prefer Doherty +1m to Robertson. Salah v Bruno is tough and fixture dependant. Werner v Martial is probably slight towards Martial +.5 because he finished so strongly and has pl experience.

                  • Noah’s Ark
                    • 8 Years
                    6 months, 10 days ago

                    Just squeeze in all the big hitters and scrap the rest of the team 😆

                    McCarthy
                    Vinagre, Saliba, Dallas, Ferguson
                    Salah, Aubameyang, Kdb, Fernandes, Armstrong
                    Werner

                    Nyland, 4.5, 4.5, 4

                    No TAA is probably fpl suicide mind

                    1. Ole's at the wheel
                      • 6 Years
                      6 months, 10 days ago

                      Same . Just pick between Salah or Auba

                  • Giggs Boson
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 9 Years
                    6 months, 10 days ago

                    Unai Emery describing his tactics in his 3-1 victory over Jurgen Klopp's Liverpool in the 2016 Europa League final: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly6pB4pQMoY

                  • klipp klopp
                    • 2 Years
                    6 months, 10 days ago

                    Ryan
                    TAA ake lindelof vinagre
                    KDB bruno greenwood
                    kane werner antonio

                    button douglas romeu stephens
                    what do you think

                  • Ole's at the wheel
                    • 6 Years
                    6 months, 10 days ago

                    Isn't it great to be back to this?
                    Stuck on a few options between mid and fwds. And after seeing fixtures would prob adjust again. (Without having to touch already in Salah KDB Fernandez Mitrovic Soucek )

                    would u ...
                    A) Martial + 1Foden / 2Maddison
                    B) Werner + Foden
                    Ç) Jimi + Ziyech

                    1. Ole's at the wheel
                      • 6 Years
                      6 months, 10 days ago

                      Ryan
                      TAA, Vinagre, Taylor
                      Salah, Kdb, Fernandes, _____, Soucek,
                      Mitro, ____

                      McCarthy, Ayling, Justin, Davis

                    2. tc93
                      • 2 Years
                      6 months, 10 days ago

                      Jimi + Ziyech imo. Jimi is conisitent every season and will score well. Ziyech will be one of the key men at Chelsea and on all set pieces so will score well. And a absolute BARGAIN for 8.0

                  • HitSquad
                    • 1 Year
                    6 months, 10 days ago

                    *******TOUGH QUESTION.*******
                    Who do you honestly rate as being the four best selections at 4.5 for this year's crop of defenders? CHEERS!

                    1. Ole's at the wheel
                      • 6 Years
                      6 months, 10 days ago

                      Vinagre Taylor Justin

                    2. Andy_Social
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 8 Years
                      6 months, 10 days ago

                      There's quite a list.
                      Vinagre, Saliba, KWP, Williams (MU), 3 at Burnley with Taylor the pick.

                    3. Flair
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      6 months, 10 days ago

                      1) Vinagre

                      fixtures determine the rest, Taylor currently at the forefront of my mind

                  • tc93
                    • 2 Years
                    6 months, 10 days ago

                    Super happy with this team- following the key man theory- got good balance while fitting in 3 big hitters- feel free to copy 😉

                    Ryan
                    TAA / Vinagre / Taylor
                    Salah / KDB / Fernandes / Ziyech / ASM
                    Jimenez / Mitrovic

                    Bench: Button, Justin, Ferguson, Davis

                    Will obviously change slightly when the fixtures are released but the spine will stay the same

                    1. Andy_Social
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 8 Years
                      6 months, 10 days ago

                      Many have copied - because it's the current bog-standard template. The only variant is Ziyech - many will prefer the known quantity in Greenwood and a better bench.

                      1. tc93
                        • 2 Years
                        6 months, 9 days ago

                        I'd actually say having Bruno, KDB, Salah isn't that standard for most of the teams I've seen- most have 2. I think Ziyech is going to be the buy of the season and the central hub of that dangerous chelsea attack- steal at 8 mil

                      2. tc93
                        • 2 Years
                        6 months, 9 days ago

                        Only thing I may change is that if United dont sell sancho - I'd most likely try to squeeze greenwood in somewhere

                    2. la boneza
                      • 8 Years
                      6 months, 10 days ago

                      Yea very similar to my draft..

                      I've gone Greenwood/Antonio instead of ASM/Jimi.. but without fixtures this types of decisions are impossible

                      1. tc93
                        • 2 Years
                        6 months, 9 days ago

                        I like that move- I just couldn't bring myself to make a draft without Jiminez- he's just so reliable every season - scores regular points each week and is central to Wolves success- I'd love to fit greenwood in if sancho isnt signed tho