Scout Notes

Adams and Ings star in big Southampton win as £4.0m defender plot thickens

Fantasy Premier League managers got a first look at Southampton assets in the latest round of pre-season friendlies.

With the Saints favourable fixtures at the start of 2020/21, there is great interest in options at both ends of the field – so we have run the rule over Saturday’s big win over Swansea.

Elsewhere, the £4.0m defender hunt continues to rumble on in rather uninspiring form and the key men at Leicester are becoming more clear.

SOUTHAMPTON 7-1 SWANSEA

  • Goals: Che Adams (£6.0m), Nathan Redmond (£6.5m), Danny Ings x2 (£8.5m), James Ward-Prowse x2 (£6.0m), Ryan Bertrand (£5.0m)
  • Assists: Bertrand x2, Adams, Stuart Armstrong (£5.5m), Redmond x2, Ings.

Danny Ings (£8.5m) and his Southampton colleagues showed they mean business in 2020/21 as they scored seven times in a pre-season win over Swansea on Saturday.

Played across four 30-minute quarters, the first two of these sessions was staffed with what looked much more like the preferred first-choice XI ahead of Gameweek 1, and they were responsible for all the goals during the first hour of a two-hour meeting. This line-up featured Ings and Che Adams (£6.0m) in the front-two of a 4-4-2 formation, which bodes well for the latter’s inclusion in 2020/21.

While we are often urged to take friendly results such as this with a pinch of salt, to find the net so often against Championship opposition should not necessarily be scoffed at.

With some Fantasy managers wondering whether or not Ings can match the value he offered last season, in light of his price hike, it was encouraging to see so many Southampton attackers getting in on the action against the Swans.

Comparisons between the former Burnley forward and Adams have already been made this summer, especially with the latter outscoring him in the last three Gameweeks of 2019/20.

Interestingly, the cheaper of the two men was as heavily involved on Saturday compared to any other Saint. It took Adams just six minutes to get on the scoresheet at St Mary’s converting a Ryan Bertrand (£5.0m) cross from close range.

He went close to netting a second a few minutes later, crashing a volley just wide of the post after a nice one-two with Ings.

Adams then helped Southampton into a two-goal lead as his efforts to find some space in the box resulted in the ball reaching Nathan Redmond (£6.5m), who made no mistake with his powerful effort.

Despite Adams’ contributions, Ings still left the big win with more pre-season attacking returns than his striking partner, combining an assist with two goals, one from the spot.

However, the fact that he took the penalty after Stuart Armstrong (£5.5m) was felled in the box is not necessarily as much of an advantage over Adams as it might seem on first look.

That’s because later in the same match, James Ward-Prowse (£6.0m) took a penalty of his own following a foul on Redmond. It is, of course, early days but, while Ings may take more spot-kicks than Adams this season, Ward-Prowse’s role in the pecking order may shrink the gap.

As Fantasy managers consider how best to invest in the Southampton defence this season, this 7-1 win gave an early indication of what could be on offer in the full-back areas.

Can Adams deliver on Project Restart promise and match Ings' for FPL value?

While Kyle Walker-Peters (£4.5m) had a relatively quiet afternoon, the £0.5m more expensive asset in Bertrand was heavily involved in what Southampton were doing going forward.

As we always say with these pre-season matches, it is early days and the opposition was obviously not Premier League level, but it is worth making ourselves aware of any particular disparity between two players.

Contributing an assist and two goals against Swansea, his runs on the overlap beyond Armstrong seemed to restrict the Scottish international’s involvement too, also worth knowing for anyone shopping in the £5.5m midfielder bracket.

By contrast, with Walker-Peters sitting a little deeper, it allowed right midfielder Redmond to score and assist in open play, as well as earning a penalty.

Jack Stephens (£5.0m) and Jan Bednarek (£4.5m) were the centre-backs in Ralph Hasenhüttl’s first team of the afternoon, with Jannik Vestergaard (£4.5m) and Christoph Klarer used in the final two quarters. However, the absence of new signing Mohammed Salisu (£4.5m) from the matchday squad makes it hard to know what chances he has of starting in Gameweek 1, or some insight into who might make way for the highly-rated centre-back.

First two quarters Southampton XI (4-4-2): McCarthy; Bertrand, J Stephens, Bednarek, Walker-Peters; Armstrong, Romeu, Ward-Prowse, Redmond; Ings, Adams.

Second two quarters Southampton XI (4-4-2): Forster; Vokins, Klarer, Vestergaard, Valery; Djenepo, Smallbone, Slattery (Jankewitz 90′), Boufal; Obafemi, S Long.

CRYSTAL PALACE 3-0 CHARLTON

  • Goals: Jordan Ayew x2 (£6.0m), Wilfried Zaha (£7.0m)
  • Assists: Zaha, Andros Townsend (£6.0m), Jeffrey Schlupp (£5.5m)

There were more pre-season minutes for Tyrick Mitchell (£4.0m) as Crystal Palace waltzed to a 3-0 win over Charlton Athletic.

The left-back played 64 minutes, bringing his total time played during the summer to 134 minutes over two matches. That’s the longest anyone has spent on the left-side of defence for Palace thus far, but is it enough to guarantee a Gameweek 1 start? Not quite yet.

Mitchell was first called into action at left-back in the 2-1 win over Oxford United, emerging as a 20th-minute substitute for the injured James McCarthy (£4.5m). With Patrick van Aanholt (£5.5m) still on the sidelines, the versatile Jairo Riedewald (£4.5m) was the man who initially started at left-back but moved into central midfield when Mitchell took to the pitch.

With Luka Milivojevic (£6.0m) still not involved in pre-season games and Cheikhou Kouyaté (£5.0m) filling in for the injured Gary Cahill (£4.5m), James Tomkins (£4.5m) and Mamadou Sakho (£4.5m), Roy Hodgson is quite short-staffed in central midfield right now.

It means that anyone returning from injury at centre-back could push Kouyaté back into midfield, while Milivojevic returning to the fold would also boost options there too and reduce the chances of Riedewald being used there.

The knock-on effect of such a chain of events could be that Riedewald moves back into defence and pushes Mitchell back out of the team. Fantasy managers will have to keep an eye out for this in Palace’s last two friendlies of the summer, against Millwall and Brondby IF.

As the hunt for form players in cheaper brackets goes on, Jordan Ayew (£6.0m) threw his name in the hat on Saturday afternoon, with two quickfire goals against Charlton, and a goalpost away from a hat-trick.

Wilfried Zaha (£7.0m) also impressed deployed out-of-position. The FPL midfielder has now played over a game and a half up-front in a 4-4-2 formation, which bodes well for the new campaign. Started in midfield against Oxford, Zaha was moved forward in the second half and subsequently found the net, while his goal and assist against Charlton came from a 90-minute stint as a striker.

Andros Townsend (£6.0m) has been a consistent presence on the flanks of midfield during pre-season for Crystal Palace so far. While Zaha has been involved the most (180 minutes), Townsend’s 159 minutes across two matches is the second-most of any Eagle this summer. Scoring in the first friendly and assist in the second, the former Spurs man went close to finding the net against Charlton too with a spectacular overhead kick.

Fantasy managers also got a chance to have a first look at new signing Eberechi Eze (£6.0m) in a Crystal Palace shirt, who was deployed on the left-hand side of midfield, where he registered most of his goals and assists in the Championship last season.

By all accounts, the former QPR man was impressive, linking up well with Zaha and Townsend in particular, adding some much-needed pace and guile into the Eagles’ attack.

Vicente Guaita (£5.0m) has still not been involved in pre-season for Palace, but Hodgson is yet to show any specific favour for his other goalkeeper options. Stephen Henderson and Wayne Hennessey (£4.5m) have both played 90 minutes each in the Spaniard’s absence so far.

Crystal Palace XI (4-4-2): Hennessey; Mitchell (Kelly 64′), Dann (Inniss 78′), Kouyaté (Woods 78′), J Ward (Kirby 64′); Eze (Schlupp 46′), McArthur (M Boateng 78′), Riedewald (Jach 78′), Townsend (Pierrick 78′); Zaha, Ayew (Gordon 83′).

WEST HAM 2-1 BRENTFORD

  • Goals: Andriy Yarmolenko (£6.0m), Tomas Soucek (£5.0m).
  • Assists: Pablo Fornals (£6.5m), Michail Antonio (£6.5m).

David Moyes appears to be readying Sebastien Haller (£6.5m) for a return to centre-forward duties at West Ham this season.

After scoring a hat-trick in a 90-minute outing against Ipswich last time out, the Frenchman started in the place of Michail Antonio (£6.5m) on Saturday.

However, Project Restart’s form man will not go away quietly. He came on for Haller at half-time, providing the assist for the Hammers’ winning goal.

However, anyone still interested in Antonio may want to keep their ears to the ground for a fitness update in the coming days. He lasted just 29 minutes against Brentford, forced off with a bang to the hip.

Also of note from a Fantasy perspective was another pre-season goal for Tomas Soucek (£5.0m). Interest in the budget midfielder tanked upon the release of West Ham’s fixtures but he now has two goals in as many friendly appearances ahead of a Gameweek 1 meeting with Newcastle, who typically struggle to defend against aerial threats. You can read more about Soucek here.

The hunt for a £4.0m defender continues to wind on without too much joy for Fantasy managers as Ryan Fredericks (£4.5m) returned to the West Ham side on Saturday.

His start at right-back meant Ben Johnson (£4.0m) was treated to just 32 minutes against Brentford. The cheaper of the two options has more pre-season minutes thus far, but there are still two more friendlies for West Ham to play. Keeping an eye on how often Fredericks is involved at Johnson’s expense (or vice versa) is an essential task for Fantasy managers ahead of Gameweek 1.

West Ham United XI (4-2-3-1): Fabianski; Cresswell (Masuaku 46′), Ogbonna, Balbuena, Fredericks (B Johnson 58′); Noble (Cullen 46′), Wilshere (Soucek 46′); Yarmolenko (Anderson 46′), Fornals (Lanzini 46′), Diangana (Bowen 46′); Haller (Antonio 46′ | Coventry 74′).

LEICESTER 0-0 SHEFF WEDS

  • Goals: None
  • Assists: None

James Justin (£4.5m) already appears to be the most cost-efficient, and safest route into Leicester’s defence ahead of the new season.

After two of their three friendly matches, the versatile full-back has played more minutes than any other Fox (150).

Capable of playing on the left or right-hand side of defence, the departure of Ben Chilwell (£5.5m) combined with Ricardo Pereira‘s (£6.0m) continued absence and Christian Fuchs‘ (£4.5m) injury all mean Justin is very likely to feature from the beginning when Leicester visit West Bromwich Albion in Gameweek 1.

Luke Thomas (£4.5m) remains an option at left-back, registering his first game-time of pre-season in the 0-0 draw with Sheffield Wednesday, although feels less assured of a start when at the Hawthorns next month.

It will be interesting to see who Brendan Rodgers will pair with Çaglar Söyüncü (£5.5m) at centre-back in the event that his defensive crisis does not ease by September 13.

Jonny Evans (£5.5m) will miss the first three matches of 2020/21 through suspension while Wes Morgan (£4.5m) was added to the injury list against Sheffield Wednesday, withdrawn with a tight hamstring.

Based on Leicester’s two pre-season matches so far, Filip Benković (£4.5m) and Darnell Johnson look the two-most likely to deputise for Evans and Morgan, having played 73 and 61 minutes each so far.

Anyone looking for nailed-on Leicester attackers cheaper than Jamie Vardy (£10.0m) might be pleased to know how heavily involved Harvey Barnes (£7.0m) has been during pre-season. Like Justin, he has started both games and with 140 minutes to his name so far, only the defender has been utilised more by Rodgers.

Leicester City XI (4-3-3): Schmeichel (D Ward 46′); L Thomas (Daley-Campbell 62′), Söyüncü (Knight 80′), Morgan (D Johnson 31′ | Benković 62′)), Justin; Tielemans (Dewsbury-Hall 80′), N Mendy (Choudhury 62′), Praet (Tavares 46′); Barnes (Eppiah 80′), Vardy (Iheanacho 46′), Albrighton (Gray 62′).

BURNLEY 3-0 TRANMERE

  • Goals: Matej Vydra (£5.0m), Bobby Thomas, Johann Berg Gudmundsson (£5.5m)
  • Assists: Erik Pieters x2 (£4.5m), Jimmy Dunne

Sean Dyche split his squad across two matches on Saturday afternoon, which made for a high concentration of youth players.

Erik Pieters (£4.5m) was the standout performer from the win over Tranmere as he registered two assists playing at left-back.

Meanwhile, Matej Vydra (£5.0m) and Jay Rodriguez (£6.0m) led the line in this one, each one surely hoping of nailing down a spot in the front-two with Ashley Barnes (£6.0m) still missing.

Johann Berg Gudmundsson‘s (£5.5m) hopes of getting back to his best in 2020/21 started here too. He took the corners and managed to get on the scoresheet against Tranmere, although Dyche continues to manage his minutes, Chris Conn-Clarke replacing him in the 78th minute.

Burnley XI (4-4-2): Peacock-Farrell; Pieters, Thomas, Dunne, Bardsley; Brady, Benson, Brownhill, Gudmundsson (Conn-Clarke 78′); Vydra, Rodriguez.

BURNLEY 1-2 SHREWSBURY

  • Goals: Chris Wood (£6.5m)
  • Assists: Max Thompson

Ben Mee (£5.0m), Kevin Long (£4.5m) and Ben Gibson (£4.0m) were three of the five senior absences from Burnley’s two opening games of pre-season paving the way for a makeshift back-four against Shrewsbury.

Dyche was forced to pair James Tarkowski (£5.0m) with left-back Charlie Taylor (£4.5m) and deploy Anthony Glennon in the former Leeds’ defenders usual position. 

Such a set-up did not start the game well as the League One opponents managed to score twice in the opening 12 minutes.

While Taylor is unlikely to play at centre-back this season, it is worth noting that Dyche is prepared to use him there. The budget defender also managed to go close to scoring a header in this game, nearly converting a Dwight McNeil (£6.0m) free-kick but sending his effort just wide.

Chris Wood (£6.5m) kept up his penalty-taking practice in this one, converting a second-half spot-kick earned from a foul on Max Thompson.

Burnley XI (4-4-2): Pope (Jensen 46′); Glennon, C Taylor, Tarkowski, Lowton (Elva-Fountaine 75′); Tucker (Trialist 46′), Westwood, Goodridge, McNeil; Wood, Thompson (Mumbongo 46′).

FULHAM 2-2 MK DONS

  • Goals: Aboubakar Kamara (£5.0m), Tom Cairney (£5.5m)
  • Assists: Tyrese Francois, Ivan Cavaleiro (£5.5m)

Scott Parker used two different teams in Fulham’s 2-2 draw with MK Dons on Saturday, their first outing of pre-season.

Aleksandar Mitrovic (£6.0m) was among the five senior players not involved in this one, with Aboubakar Kamara (£5.0m) and Tom Cairney (£5.5m) looked to for the goals.

New signing Antonee Robinson (£4.5m) got 45 minutes at left-back while Denis Odoi (not yet priced) played half the game in defence, and could be set for an FPL price in the coming days.

First-half Fulham XI (3-4-3): Rodák; Le Marchand, Hector, Odoi; Bryan, Johansen, Jasper, S Sessegnon; Kebano, Decordova-Reid, Knockaert.

Second-half Fulham XI (4-2-3-1): Bettinelli; A Robinson, Ream, Mawson, Christie; Francois, Cairney; Cavaleiro, Carvalho, Onomah; Kamara.

WEST BROM 0-1 NOTTM FOREST

  • Goals: None.
  • Assists: None.

Apart from three players, the entire West Bromwich Albion squad were used in their opening pre-season friendly on Saturday, although the result was far from promising.

Forward Kenneth Zohore (£5.0m), left-back Conor Townsend (£4.5m) and midfielder Oliver Burke (£4.5m) were the only senior players not involved as Slave Bilic used two mostly different XIs between each half.

Goalkeeper Sam Johnstone (£4.5m) was the only one who played 90 minutes.

In a largely uneventful game, mostly organised to give the whole squad some match fitness, there were very few Fantasy takeaways. Managers will have to wait until the Baggies arrange some more games to find out more about Bilic’s plans for the season.

First-half West Bromwich Albion XI (4-2-3-1): Johnstone; Gibbs, Bartley, Peltier, Furlong; Livermore, Field; Edwards, Tulloch, M Phillips; Robson-Kanu.

Second-half West Bromwich Albion XI (3-4-1-2): Johnstone; Hegazi, Shotton, O’Shea; Ajayi; Grosicki, Sawyers, Harper, Pereira; Austin, Soule.

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  1. BoomXhakaLaca1
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    The team becomes so much nicer looking without any Liverpool defenders but you just can't leave them out

    1. el polako
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Wait until you have to fit in Messi...

      1. BoomXhakaLaca1
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Don't remind me haha

      2. LewanGOALski
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        that's the only reason I don't want him to join EPL side 😀

        1. el polako
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Yeah it will turn fpl into 9 players thing assuming most peeps will own Leo & Trent.

          1. BoomXhakaLaca1
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Fact like I was thinking going Robbo for the extra 0.5 ITB but I still can't justify myself to do it haha

        2. Gabbiadini
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          cmon put your fpl team aside for one of the greatest players to ever grace a football pitch play in the pl.

          1. el polako
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            In a season where fans cant watch live games.
            Isnt it ironic ? Dont you think ? I little too ironic...

    2. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Looks even nicer with no Salah but still TAA

      1. BoomXhakaLaca1
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        It does at the minute, but not after the result vs Leeds

    3. Ser Davos
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Pool could well drop off this season. Perhaps Utd and Chelsea will close the gap to themselves in second. Difficult to gauge.

      I don't expect 2 CSs in 16 nor do I see a run of 9 in 10. I think CSs will be drip fed here and there. If so, then Pool defenders could continue their dominance that they've had for two and a half years

  2. owenwhyte
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    thoughts on this team?

    mccarthy
    TAA Vinagre Bertrand Davies
    Salah Auba Son
    Adams Werner Mitrovic

    bench: ryan, justin, gordon, stephens

    1million left over

    1. have you seen cyan
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Betrand isnt worth 5mil, get KWP if you really want a Saints double up, but I wouldnt recommend it. You need another 0.5 for Son>Bruno anyway.
      Vinagre probably wont be in ur team by deadline

  3. Carlton P
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Gw9 WC looking ideal. Everyone will want Soucek as an enabler by then. Get him now while he’s 5.0
    Double pool defence plus Laporte
    Wood + Haller

    1. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I dont even know my team for GW1 and you're already building a team for GW9 lol

      1. Cert
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Lmao same

    2. Sanchit
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      0 shots and 0 key passes against Tot,Ars, Liverpool,City, Villa
      0 shots and 1 key pass against United.

      Soucek might have good stats against lower sides but the current fixture run he has, I expect him to go down by the we reach Gw9

  4. Louis Van Gaalstones
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Where can I find cash mini leagues to enter? I've only been in one every year and I want to broaden my horizons a bit

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Spend it on membership. 🙂

      1. Bubz
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Hi TM, I signed up for my membership a couple hours ago but not letting me log in. Is this normal? Does it take a while to activate?

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Rotation says up to a day.

          1. Bubz
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Cheers

      2. Louis Van Gaalstones
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Oh I'm doing that as well don't worry haha

    2. el polako
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      In underground from this seson.

  5. I Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    McCarthy
    Robertson, Davies, Justin, Vinagre
    Aubameyang, Salah, Saka, Soucek
    Kane, Werner

    Steer; Greenwood*, Brewster, Mitchell.

    How do I find 0.5 for Robbo -> TAA or do I just not bother? It could yet change but at the moment Kane is non-negotiable for me. Much prefer him to Son and even if I did make that switch I would want to do Kane + Greenwood -> Son + Martial which doesn't free up any cash.

    I guess Davies -> 4.5 defender is the obvious choice but I can't say I really like the 4.5s outside of Justin and Vinagre. The Burnley defenders look good but they don't have a fixture in GW1 so I'd have to play Mitchell. Maybe that's not the worst idea.

    1. Flaming Flamingo
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I don't think playing Mitchell in GW1 is an issue. So Davies to a Burnley defender could work, though just keeping Robertson is a good alternative too.

      1. I Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Which Burnley defender would you go for? Bit worried that Taylor isn't actually all that secure due to Pieters' end of season form. Not much in it between Bardsley and Lowton either.

        1. Flaming Flamingo
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          From what I gather Taylor is the safest choice, but I take your point. I prefer Dallas myself anyway, so you could look at going for him and benching in GW1?

    2. FourLokoLeipzig
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I think both options have merit, but I’d lean towards your current plan given Robbo’s form and fitness - the switch to TAA can probably wait until you wildcard

      1. I Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers. Thinking this too just need to summon the bravery to go without Trent. Auba -> KDB in GW3 would free up the 0.5 for Robbo -> TAA anyway so might not even need to wait until WC.

        1. Baps hunter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I would have no issue starting Mitchell one gw if it means that I can afford Trent. And Trent + Taylor over Davies + Robbo easily imho.

    3. SweepaKeepa
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Do nothing. Best draft I’ve seen so far.

      1. I Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks.

  6. Powers106
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Enough with the RMT's, let's talk about Mee. Is he still on penalties and nailed? Seems good value despite GW1 blank?

    1. BoomXhakaLaca1
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Jeez it's not all about you man 😉

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Burnley?

      1. Powers106
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah, I think Ben Mee for Burnley is the only Mee in FPL?

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Only the nailed part sounds correct.

    3. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I think Burnley are least likely team to get a penalty. They're rarely in the opposition box except as set pieces.

      1. Powers106
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        This is a good point.

        1. Champions League Varane
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          He’s on penalties what?

          1. Powers106
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            I could be wrong but I thought so

            1. nico05
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Never realised that!

              1. Powers106
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                I looked it up on the set pieces page, I guess he doesn't. Not sure why I thought that!

            2. Andy_Social
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Did you read who took the penalty above?

  7. Steve The Spud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    che Adams up top makes it Pretty easy to get Bruno on the bench which I’m coming round to slowly

    Mcarthy

    Doh,robbo,vvd,vina,
    Son,souceck,Auba
    Mitro,Adams,Werner

    Bruno, 4.0, 4.5

    1. Simon69
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Lack of Salah is an issue though.

      1. Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Certainly

  8. KGFC
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    I'm staying away from Spurs' players. They will play thrice in 7 days.. yikees!

    - Home to Everton on 13th Sep, late KO
    - Away to Lokomotiv Plovdiv (Bulgaria) - R2 EL qualifier - 17th Sep
    - Away to Southampton - 20th Sep, early KO

    Can see a lot of rotation, especially in the middle of the park. Expect the likes of Son to either be benched for one of those or just play for 60-65 minutes.

    1. I Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Surely the key players would be benched in the EL qualifier against the team no one has ever heard of.

      1. Carlton P
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Fact

    2. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Spurs are used to playing week in week out, they've got a very fit squad. Mourinho doesn't rotate his key players in PL games. Dodging Spurs' excellent fixtures and Mourinho second season effect for this reason makes zero sense.

  9. Flair
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Alli looks more interesting by the moment, Mourinho is returning him to that second striker role which he is excellent at, running beyond Kane and popping up in the box.

    Difficult to justify him over Ziyech though, I wonder if a GW4 switch could be beneficial to catch the fixture swings.

    1. have you seen cyan
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Yea Alli could be great this season. I had him for a couple of periods last season and it was like old days again 😀
      8 mil is a snip

    2. FourLokoLeipzig
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      That’s my plan right now

    3. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Ziyech is injured though?

  10. Prison Mike
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Best option? I favour an early WC...

    A) Mitrovic & TAA

    B) Martial & 4.5 def

    1. Mayor of Flair
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A

    2. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A

  11. Tinmen
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Folks, is Rudiger nailed for Chelsea ?

    1. Mayor of Flair
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      No

  12. Camzy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Werner's ownership astounds me. 41%. That's so high! Second only to TAA.

    1. Mayor of Flair
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      You have him?

      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yes. It makes sense with his fixtures and his potential.

        But still. I wouldn't have thought it'd be so high.

        1. el polako
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          All "youtube gurus" have him so masses are following.

          (Yes I do own him).

    2. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      maybe because he's been directly involved in 105 goals over the last 4 seasons in the Bundesliga alone.

    3. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Hes part of the autopick selections, I think that's the main reason

      Same for Ziyech

  13. Gabbiadini
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Wait until Messi signs and everyone is scrambling to fit him in their "good to go" sides.

    1. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Unless you have a plan to bring him in 😛

      1. Gabbiadini
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        how much is stored in your bank out of curiosity?

        1. Flair
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Zero

    2. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Even if he signs today, he won't be playing in GW2. I'll WC him in if it appears he's essential and not priced ludicrously.

    3. jtreble
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I would expect CAS to rule first ... 🙂

    4. I Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      GW3 is the earliest I'd have him anyway. Doesn't play GW1 and Wolves away in GW2 seems fine to go without.

      1. dshv
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Messi will bring more points even he starts in gw20

      2. Bruce Lee
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Wolves vs one of the best players of all time is fine???

        1. I Member
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I think he is THE best player of all time and still the current best player in the world but it won't kill my season if I don't have him for Wolves away. Depending on when the signing goes through (if it does) he might not even start right away.

    5. dshv
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      CANT WAIT FOR HIM

  14. Mayor of Flair
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Please pick either:

    A. Martial & Ziyech

    or

    B. Werner & Greenwood

    1. Cert
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B

  15. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Salahless Draft? Not entirely convinced by him given the price

    McCarthy 4m

    TAA Tierney Davies Vinagre 4m

    Aubameyang Son Greenwood Armstrong Soucek

    Kane Werner Mitrovic

    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Not much wrong with that. I like the team.

      Although not a huge fan of Tierney + 4.0m. Might as well get 2x 4.5ms.

      1. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Just for the first 2 fixtures, then bring in Taylor and KDB for Tierney and Auba - gives me 1.5m to do Son to Fernandes

  16. jtreble
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Is WGTA going to run the Zombie League in 20/21?

  17. have you seen cyan
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone being a bit cautious with Southampton? It feels trappy...
    Most people have triple Saints or at least double.
    It’s gonna end in disaster somewhere.

    The only one I really trust is Danny, just tell yourself “triple Southampton” if it sounds wrong then that’s probably because it is

    1. MGMT
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Ings @8.5M feels so CallumWilson-ish. Adam @6M is a lot cheaper, getting in good goal-scoring positions, and the extra 2.5M are totally worth it.

      1. have you seen cyan
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        that kind of logic normally backfires. Adams is by far no Ings

        1. MGMT
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Can be a 1-2 week punt, then transferred out

    2. SweepaKeepa
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I’m cautiously optimistic. Suspicious, however, that everyone think gaining Hojberg will make Spurs more solid, but losing him won’t affect Saints.

      1. Flaming Flamingo
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        He wasn't starting for Saints towards the end of last season, in fairness.

        1. SweepaKeepa
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Fair enough. Triple up here we come then.

      2. Flair
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Different roles in different systems

    3. Loftus cheeky nandos
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Just because of good early fixtures

    4. SAY MY NAME
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      McCarthy all i've got atm, might have KWP too though, but won't need to play him every week - i don't think Southampton are a trap, just often best value picks when it comes to preseason guessing, a reasonable semi-gamble - certainly not expecting too much from them, but from what we know they probably have as good a chance as any (for getting a few points) for players at their prices

  18. manu4life99
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Best combo to complete team?

    McCarthy 4.0
    TAA Vinagre Justin Pieters XXX
    Salah Aub Son Soucek XXX
    Werner Ings XXX

    A) ASM 4.5def Brewster
    B) Gordon Mitro 4.0def

    1. Joss Ackland’s Spunky…
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      b for me.

    2. MGMT
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B

    3. H.E. Pennypacker
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Harris Reed has signed permanently for Fulham, he might be a better 4.5 bet than Gordon; going on last season he was mostly in the first 11.

      1. H.E. Pennypacker
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        *Harrison

  19. Joss Ackland’s Spunky…
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    rmt people

    ryan
    TAA/Robbo justin (mitchell, johnson)
    auba,son,greenwood,armstrong,soucek
    werner,vardy, adams.

    possibly auba/vardy to kdb/aguero gw3. 0itb.

  20. Bruce Lee
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Hi RMT

    McCarthy
    TAA, Doherty, Egan
    Auba, Son, Ziyech, ASM
    Vardy, Werner, Mitro

    4m, Vinagre, Bisouma, Douglas

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Close to template outside no Salah and has Vardy.

    2. Ranger Mann
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Looks great - how well do you sleep without Salah?

    3. have you seen cyan
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      nice to see another Salahless team, looks good.
      Heres mine;

      McCarthy
      Robbo, Tierney, Egan, Davies
      Auba, Son, Soucek
      Kane, Werner, Ings

  21. Bruce Lee
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Glad people are talking about Messi here... outside this bubble it seems almost normal that one of the best players of all time is looking to come to City...

    I'd never have expected him to leave Barca, unless he left at the end of his career to play for his local team in Argentina. Historic times

    1. I Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Would be a joy to see him do his thing in England.

      1. KDF
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Wishing for Stoke away in the league cup, Tuesday night please

      2. Gabbiadini
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I think it's only a matter of time at this point until he is wearing blue.

  22. Kambo
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Who else is liking the potential of a Martial, Wood and Adams front 3 over the course of the season!?

    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Not I.

      Two man strikeforce of Werner + Martial is what I like.

      1. Ranger Mann
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Can't see past those two either!

  23. Loftus cheeky nandos
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone agree with me dcl looks a great option with everton getting rodriguez and allan in midfield. I know he was bad post-restart, but when ancelotti first joined dcl improved.

    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Kean if he stays might usurp him.

      1. Flair
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Very unlikely, Kean has been dreadful and unmotivated while Carlo clearly loves DCL who has been performing for them

        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Kean started the last game of last season over DCL. I think there's enough uncertainty that I'll avoid.

          1. Flair
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Only because it was a worthless end of season game, backups always play then...

    2. jtreble
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      "... with everton getting rodriguez ..." Link?

  24. jtreble
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    "... with everton getting rodriguez ...". Link?

    1. jtreble
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Fail.

      1. jtreble
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks. I thought Rodriguez had been signed.

  25. Limit80
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Zaha. Strong preseason, good home fixtures, decent stats post restart. Essential?

    1. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      No, not essential.

    2. Ranger Mann
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      He still plays for Palace FYI

    3. MGMT
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Could be a good differential... Crystal Palace for me are a wait-and-see, considering their form ending last season.

  26. gedda
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Any further concerns over Ben Davies with Doherty and EL fixture/schedule? I have him in my draft and I see him in a lot of RMTs on the site.

    Cheers!

    /g

    1. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Davies AND Doherty

      EL schedule is overrated, they're used to playing week in week out and are fit players. They'll be fine

    2. Ranger Mann
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I don't see it being an issue, little cover behind them and Aurier (if he stays!)

      1. have you seen cyan
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Aurier will be going

        1. Ranger Mann
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          No smoke without fire! I hope we hear soon

    3. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I don't see the hype in the Davies selection personally.
      Sessegnon should be kicking down the door.

      1. Flair
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Zero chance he starts over Davies in the PL, you're massively overrating him. Mourinho always plays his favorites

  27. Captain Warlock
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Any input welcome
    A) Greenwood & Ings
    B) Rashford & Mitrovic
    Not convinced with Greenwood but want Ings ??

    1. Ranger Mann
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Considered martial? I was at that same cross road and went foden and ings, that turns into martial and foden GW2

    2. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Greenwood is a great selection if they don't sign a replacement i.e. the obvious... sancho.

    3. Joss Ackland’s Spunky…
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      how about rashford/adams?

  28. WiredWeasel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Any thoughts on the impact of Havertz signing for Chelsea?

    1. Ranger Mann
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Increasing the midfield monopoly at Chelsea.

      Increasing the quality of deliveries to Timo

      1. WiredWeasel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        It's rather confirming Werner in my draft!

    2. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      You can see why he wants the moves.
      Frank is building something.

      1. Gabbiadini
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        impact being Mason Mount.
        And a scarily potent looking front 4.

        1. WiredWeasel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Agree - if the new arrivals across the teams settle down fairly well this year, it's going to make the title race interesting.

  29. HAALand 9000
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Great review, moving Mitrovic to Adams and Saka to Kebano, can see Fulham being the stronger team from promoted with PL experience and decent fixtures.

  30. Flair
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    https://www.reddit.com/r/FantasyPL/comments/ijwl0n/will_jose_mourinhos_tactics_suit_matt_doherty/

    Recommend anyone on the fence about Doherty to check out this thread, convinced me to keep him and follow my instinct. Basically playing as a wingback pushing up to RW in the Mourinho system in his prime second season, he'll be a great option imo.