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The key underlying statistics from the last four matches ahead of FPL Gameweek 9

Following the drama of 2020/21’s first eight Gameweeks, Fantasy Premier League managers finally have some emerging trends and patterns to inform our decisions moving forward.

With fixture swings occurring soon, what does the data tell us to do with our Spurs assets for Gameweek 9? Which defences are worth investing in and which fixtures are now favourable for potential captains?

We have taken a deep dive into the numbers from Gameweeks 5 to 8 to find the answers to these questions.

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  1. Buck The Trent
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    2 months, 15 days ago

    Bambam FTW

    1. Kannbury
        2 months, 15 days ago

        On for POTY if he goes on like he is!

      • Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Just brought him and feel better about life in general

    2. Flair
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      2 months, 15 days ago

      "Sadio Mané (£12.0m) has just one goal in this period, coming from four big chances. It is unusual for Liverpool’s winger to be so poor in his conversions and you would expect a big improvement going forward."

      Make it happen Sadio

      1. Pinky and De Bruyne
        • 8 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        The Jota effect

        1. Flair
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Jota has nothing to do with it.

      2. Amey
        • 2 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        You understand how weird this season is when you see Sadio becoming wasteful & Salah taking them chances when fall to him.

        1. Flair
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          2 months, 15 days ago

          https://understat.com/player/838

          Mane's an incredible xG overperformer, wow. Didn't realize he was that good at doing so.

          1. Amey
            • 2 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            Yup
            He's a lethal player

      3. Olson
        • 6 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        It is not unusual

        People have short memories

    3. Inazuma X1
      • 3 Years
      2 months, 15 days ago

      Apparently Joe Gomez is out for rest of the season, is this true?

      1. Forever In Our Shadow
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        It confirmed yet but sounds like it’s a bad one. Southgate was concerned as no one was around him when it happened.

        1. Forever In Our Shadow
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          *not

      2. Pinky and De Bruyne
        • 8 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Yeah hes deed mate

      3. Pukki Blinders
        • 1 Year
        2 months, 15 days ago

        He’s gone, along with Pool’s title chances

      4. Gregor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 11 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Not confirmed but rumours it’s another ACL injury like Van Dijk’s.

    4. The Red Devil
      • 5 Years
      2 months, 15 days ago

      GW9 is eons away :/

      1. Flair
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        2 months, 15 days ago

        6GWs in December, that makes up for it

      2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        IB's are boring indeed

        1. Ron_Swanson
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          The Masters starts today!

          1. farmerfat
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            Thank the lord!

    5. Hiddenpaw
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      2 months, 15 days ago

      Do you think Neco Williams replaces TAA for the next few fixtures? If so could be great value.

      1. Inazuma X1
        • 3 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Not 100% Milner can play there

      2. Pinky and De Bruyne
        • 8 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Id stay away from pool defense

        1. Jerry C-137
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          I pity the fool who thinks Robertson ain't a good shout

      3. Pukki Blinders
        • 1 Year
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Think there may be more chance Nat Phillips plays if Gomez is out

      4. Gregor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 11 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Avoid.

      5. Blue&White85
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        I think Milner will slot in at right back and Phillips in the middle. Don’t think they’ll put the two youngsters straight into the same defence.

      1. Amey
        • 2 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Lol

      2. El Presidente
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Southgates a muppet

    6. Babit1967
      • 4 Years
      2 months, 15 days ago

      3.6 million, worst ever start and had no luck combined with very poor decisions

      Gw2 Son to Bruno
      Gw3 Kane out on WC to fit in KDB

      Vardy captain last gw summed up the miserable campaign with a missed penalty instead of a haul

      Anyone else find themselves in a similar position?

      1. Inazuma X1
        • 3 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Long way to go, chin up!

        1. Babit1967
          • 4 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Yeah, I’m now actually tempted to keep hold of Sterling, was planning to get rid but seeing his ownership I’m kinda hoping he could be my lucky charm

      2. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Plenty of high profile managers out side of the higher ranks this season. Plenty of weeks to go.

      3. Flair
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        2 months, 15 days ago

        https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2020/11/09/learning-from-the-great-and-the-good-20-21-gameweek-8/

        https://twitter.com/fplreview/status/1325773846222426112

        Plenty of world class managers struggling. Don't worry about it, keep on making good decisions and you'll be fine.

      4. DandyDon
        • 2 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Keep being pushed back to 2 million mark this season. Kind of takes the fun out of it. I’ll keep trying though. Usually try and get a boost from an early WC and haven’t finished outside top 100k yet that way. Really did waste my wildcard by using it early this season, removing Son was the biggest error but Mourinho teams these days are so up and down. Would love to use a WC this week.

        1. Babit1967
          • 4 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Yeah same, I used my wc when I didn’t need to, now looking back my team 1 team would have been outstanding to keep

        2. Olson
          • 6 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          It happens

          I had a HORROR SHOW this season. To the point that by about GW 5 was ready to just jack it in for my own sanity

          Opening week 30 points
          WC team 50 (previous week team 100)
          FH team 35 (previous week team 65)
          A run of basically every single player I took out hauling (I am not kidding)
          Multiple hits to no avail
          Etc

          OR 3.5m

          This time 2018/19: OR: 350

          Rough with the smooth. Sometimes these awful/incredible seasons happen

          1. fish&chips
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            Almost identical to me mate. We must have the same team!! Onwards and upwards

      5. Rasping Drive
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        A lot in the same position; I’m currently just outside the top million with a plan of a few hits to set up my squad to climb up the rankings. FWIW I was in a similar position to you last season and finished inside the top 5k, so all is far from lost.

        1. Babit1967
          • 4 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          That was a decent finish despite the bad start

        2. Flynny
          • 5 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Yes mate. I'm similar.

          I've had 5 seasons between 1k and 80k.

          This season has been horrific - removed dcl and saiss from my initial draft 10 mins before gw1.

          Played a dreadful wildcard gw3 and been fixing it since.

          Rank was 4.5m after gw4. Felt like giving up and found it tough mentally to be floundering right at the bottom of.the mini league im usually at the top of

          Last week was my first really good week and I've moved up to 2.4m.

          Still miles behind my usual rivals in mini league . Some are up to 100 points ahead....

          But it does seem my season is recovering gradually.

          1. Rasping Drive
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            Yes, it’s surprising what a good few weeks can do to your rank, especially early doors.

        3. Captain Kakaroto (I blame R…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Wow, you were 3.6 mill and finished 5k? there is hope then!!

          1. Rasping Drive
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            Yes, it’s what’s keeping me sane this season!

            1. Captain Kakaroto (I blame R…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 3 Years
              2 months, 15 days ago

              Yea great to hear. I have never been so low. Can you elaborate (if you remember ) on when was your jump in that season ?

      6. King Kohli
        • 8 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Never finished worse than 165k in over a decade of playing.
        Currently struggling at 3m having blown my wc in gw 4.
        Having No Son/Kane has absolutely killed me.
        Hope to make up ground with the fixture swing.

        1. Steve The Spud
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Yeah same mate, 3.8m rank, some bad decisions a long with players I don’t own having some big hauls

          1. Babit1967
            • 4 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            Onwards and upwards lads

    7. Inazuma X1
      • 3 Years
      2 months, 15 days ago

      If a team loses significant number of players through injuries, can they not sign free agents?

      1. Gregor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 11 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Clubs can always sign free agents.

        1. Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          This

        2. Inazuma X1
          • 3 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          So does Pool have anyone in mind for their CB position, any idea?

          1. Gregor
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 11 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            I suspect Klopp will just go with Matip/Fabinho/Williams/Phillips until January.

          2. Miguel Sanchez
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            I can see a romantic homecoming for Conor Coady gaining momentum soon

          3. Buck The Trent
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            Available free agents are past their best.. Ashley Williams, Mariappa etc

            Think Rhys, Nat, Sepp are as good as those guys

          4. Black Knights
            • 8 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            I heard Ezequiel Garay is a free agent and they were looking at him.

    8. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 months, 15 days ago

      A) Robertson out (Cresswell or Coufal maybe?)
      B) Save FT

      Martinez
      Robbo Chilwell Zouma
      Salah Son Ziyech Grealish
      Kane DCL Bamford

      (Steer Ayling Bissouma Justin) 1FT 0.1M

      1. Gregor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 11 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Save.

      2. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        B

      3. Flair
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        2 months, 15 days ago

        B

      4. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Thanks, guys!

      5. Amey
        • 2 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        A & invest in attack maybe ?
        Son to Bruno/Kevin sounds tasty as ....

        1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          I'm not as tempted on either of them as most people seem to be around here. And I am quite happy with my team actually! But thanks Amey.

          1. Amey
            • 2 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            Fair enough 🙂

    9. Flair
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      2 months, 15 days ago

      Leicester 3rd for xG and 13th for NPxG, that penalty reliance could harm them in the long run.

      1. Pukki Blinders
        • 1 Year
        2 months, 15 days ago

        And that’s why Vardy is rubbish

        1. Amey
          • 2 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Being rubbish is fine as long as he keeps scoring them the points.

    10. Flair
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      2 months, 15 days ago

      Laporte will soon be eligible to play for England lmao

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        The depth of talent France has is insane

        1. Amey
          • 2 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Every position they have 3 decent players !
          Especially in attack 😮

        2. Flair
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Absolutely unreal. Doubt you can find a better talent pool in history

        3. El Presidente
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          2 months, 15 days ago

          And yet they still play like shaite...

    11. manu4life99
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      2 months, 15 days ago

      just now

      Is Zaha on pens or is it PVA? Consensus seems to be PVA but what is that based on??

      1. Flair
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Doesn't PVA have like 1 penalty scored/taken in his career

      2. Amey
        • 2 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Nothing !
        PVA has excellent attacking potential without Pens though. He's definitely on some set plays

      3. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        I expect it is probably Zaha now

    12. Flair
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      2 months, 15 days ago

      I just realized Mane is due, surely he'll cash it in against Leicester for guaranteed points? (C) close to locked in

      1. DK_13
        • 5 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        i dont want to spoil your party, but someone can underperform for insanely long periods of time(could even be the entire season)

        1. Flair
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          2 months, 15 days ago

          I'm not entirely serious mate, though I would be very surprised if Mane didn't return to his usual clinical self soon. Just my luck that I get him when he goes on a dry streak!

          1. DK_13
            • 5 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            i got him in gw5 too, i feel your pain

      2. Pukki Blinders
        • 1 Year
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Covid is impacting him I reckon

      3. Zim0
        • 2 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        I don't even care. I'm just captaining anyone that faces Fulham. DCL this week, Vardy next, KDB after that, then Salah

        1. Flair
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          2 months, 15 days ago

          You have my full support, he's currently my captain too. Difficult to back Liverpool to score more than 2 against this Leicester side. Case of very good side vs good side or good side vs dreadful side and the latter is winning for me.

        2. Inazuma X1
          • 3 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Why Fulham?

          1. The Knights Template
            • 7 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            Because they are not very good

      4. farmerfat
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Nothing is guaranteed, but I wouldnt bet against him scoring this week.
        I am an owner too, but dont have the balls to captain him this week. Going with Bruno

    13. DK_13
      • 5 Years
      2 months, 15 days ago

      RMWCT please
      Leno (forster)
      chilwell cancelo dias (targett 3.9)
      salah kdb bruno grealish souchek
      DCL richalison (brewster)
      (kdb will be ziyech for gw9 & richalison will be antonio when he starts playing or when fixtures turn for everton)

      1. Flair
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Looks fine if you want to start Soucek every week. Love the double City defense, could be a lot of points potential there. Rich should be Rich for GW9, Fulham are dreadful.

        1. DK_13
          • 5 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          it will be between targett and souchek every week.
          yes, not getting in antonio before i see him play 1 whole game without getting injured.

      2. Gandalf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Downgrade Rich and upgrade Soucek

    14. Inazuma X1
      • 3 Years
      2 months, 15 days ago

      Can this be considered a reliable source?

      https://twitter.com/AnfieldWatch/status/1326652009445986310

      1. Jordan.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        starting to sound very ominous for him...

      2. Corgzzzz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        If this turns out to be the bad news it looks like, I think I will need to unload Robbo. LFC cant rely on just Robbo and Matip for clean sheets.

    15. Werner Bremen
      • 2 Years
      2 months, 15 days ago

      Who is your captain for GW9?

      1. Iceball
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Salah atm, DCL and even Chilwell have crossed my mind.

      2. wulfranian
        • 4 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Werner atm.

      3. Kannbury
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Martial punt, still time to revert to Salah yet though.

          1. Flair
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            2 months, 15 days ago

            Doesn't he have zero shots on target this season

          2. Pukki Blinders
            • 1 Year
            2 months, 15 days ago

            Will be dropped for Cavani after his abysmal display against Everton

        • Karan14
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Salah or DCL

        • EmreCan Hustle
          • 8 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Have it on DCL atm...but might switch to Bruno

        • ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
          • 6 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Mo Fo

        • LAMELA_AND_CONSUELA
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          DCL Richarlison will be back so they should play better

        • g40steve
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Grealish or DCL look very tempting?

        • Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Grealish

      4. wulfranian
        • 4 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        I watched this masterpiece yesterday.A must see especially for British who were born before mid 70's. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097108/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0

        1. Jordan.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          and i watched LA Confidential ,another brilliant movie..

          1. wulfranian
            • 4 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            Excellent

        2. Rasping Drive
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          I went to see it at the cinema when it first came out. Beautifully shot but, all told, a heap of arty-farty nonsense imho

          1. Party time
            • 2 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            & you watched the arty - farty nonsense till the end?

            1. Rasping Drive
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              2 months, 15 days ago

              Well, I’d paid good money in London to see it, so yes.

          2. wulfranian
            • 4 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            Some movies aren't for everyone.

      5. Atimis
        • 4 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Only Son to Bruno this week or some additional move?

        2FTs 1.6ITB

        Martinez
        Robo/Kilman/Chilwell
        Salah/Son/Hamez/Grealish
        Kane/DCL/Bamford

        Martin/Reguilon/Mitchell/Stephens

      6. Rohirrims
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Lot's of problems in my team. Need help in prioritizing my transfers out:-
        TAA - Great fixtures, maybe injured for a month.
        Rodrigues - Decent fixtures in the short term but then turns red and returns have dried up
        Son - Terrible fixtures, route to Fernandes
        Podence - Last decent fixture but being subbed first every week specially in the second half when Wolves come alive hurts
        Kane - Terrible fixtures, but could he be fixture proof? Also other fires means he gets a stay of execution for now

        Thought process currently is to move Son and Rodrigues (late return from Internationals) to Fernandes and Grealish. If TAA is confirmed out move him to either one of Cancelo or Chilwell for a -8.

        In subsequent weeks can take a decision on Kane to Vardy, Werner, Antonio or Jesus. Podence could be anybody from KdB to Jota.

        1. Pukki Blinders
          • 1 Year
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Getting rid of Hamez ahead of the next 3 fixtures is nothing short of madness

        2. Black Knights
          • 8 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Hames is not a problem for now, at all. Keep a spur, ditch the other with TAA and you can basically pick whoever you want.

      7. The Legend Squad
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        This is how I’m thinking of lining up:

        Robbo to Cancelo
        Son to Fernandes

        McCarthy
        Cancelo Chilwell Lamptey KWP
        Salah Fernandes Sterling Zaha
        Werner DCL

        Nyland Bissouma Lewis Davis

        RMT

        1. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 3 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Good moves. Good team.

      8. Mr. Mystic
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Foden & TAA -> Bruno & Coufal for -8?

        1. The Knights Template
          • 7 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          No

        2. Pukki Blinders
          • 1 Year
          2 months, 15 days ago

          No

        3. Mufc202020
          • 1 Year
          2 months, 15 days ago

          No

        4. Rhodes your boat
          • 4 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          No

        5. Ze_Austin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Yes

        6. Pukkipartyy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Yes

        7. Iceball
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Its not so easy as yes or no without seeing your team.
          Which defenders do you have, can you field 3 that should do ok?
          What do you expect from Foden? Yet another 1 pointer, or 0 (he seems to be out of favor, sitting on bench 3 games)
          Will you captain Bruno, and who is you captain otherwise?
          I think it might be worth it, not just for this week, but imagine next week you still have a dilemma, keep Foden or TAA, take -4 maybe then? Yet another week with noshow or minimal return from them?
          If you have weak defenders I would say YES, but it all depends.

          1. Mr. Mystic
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            Appreciate the response Iceball, here’s my team:
            Martinez
            Chilwell Lamptey Taylor
            Salah Son Grealish Foden
            Kane DCL Wilson*
            (Mitchell*, Burke, TAA)

            So I already risk not fielding a full 11! By doing TAA->Coufal provides cover for Wilson/Foden not playing. But then by having Bruno and potentially captaining, I think it will pay off? This will be my first hit of the season. And as you say, I will he in more dilemmas later on if I don’t address now. Thoughts?

        8. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 3 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Trent won't be getting any points for a while and Foden hasn't been getting many looking back so yeah.

      9. Mufc202020
        • 1 Year
        2 months, 15 days ago

        What would people do with this team?

        Martinez - Martin
        Lamptey - Kilman - Dias - Chilwell Braithwaite
        KDB - Grealish - Zaha - Bruno - Bissouma
        Brewster - Kane - Werner

        Thanks all

        1. POTATO
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          2 months, 15 days ago

          play 4-4-2 and captain Bruno?
          (You don't mention if you have any FT or anything itb?)

          1. Mufc202020
            • 1 Year
            2 months, 15 days ago

            1 FT and 1.4m in the bank

        2. LegendMoon
          • 3 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Like The Potato said ^^^ save the transfer

      10. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Doing some FanTeam work. Is Rodriguez > Grealish worth a -4? Already doing TAA > Chilwell this week.

        It doesn't free up much money because their prices are similar in FanTeam (7.1 > 6.9), but I just have a feeling this move will pay off. I should have done it two weeks ago, but not too stubborn to course correct.

        1. Party time
          • 2 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Fork your fan team

        2. Rasping Drive
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          I wouldn’t do it this week, what with Everton playing Fulham and Richarlison back

      11. Giggs Boson
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 months, 15 days ago

        Thanks Holly, I like your stats-based approach to FPL. One criticism I would have of this article is that it doesn't use the expected stats.

        Shots, shots on target, shots in the box don't tell you about the quality of the chances or the quality of the shot. A player could be getting credit for speculative shots that hold little threat, or just get blocked by a wall of defenders. Even big chances doesn't tell you a whole lot about the chance. It can be misleading.

        Expected stats are by far superior, especially Expected Goals On Target (xGOT). xGOT not only takes into account the quality of the chance (xG), but also how well the shot was taken. That helps take into account if the shot was blocked, if the player was under pressure, or the if the shot taker is a bad finisher. xGOT is the best measure of goal threat available in the member's area imo.

        I know it's not as palatable for the casual reader or your viewers, I know a lot of people get put off by maths, but just adding an extra column for it in your tables would be welcome for the stats buffs, even if you don't mention it 🙂

        1. Party time
          • 2 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Yeah but some players are stat busters.e.g Vardy, Martial etc while players have good stat but tripe outcome e.g Maupay.

          Personally, I prefer eye test but combining both is the best. I use the eye test to range transfer & stats to cool my nuts

          1. Giggs Boson
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            Vardy is top for xGOT, by some distance. There's no stats busting, it says he's good.

            But this was my point. Long-term 'stats busting' mostly happens when you're using bad stats. xGOT gives you a clearer picture and is better than all the 'shots in the box' stuff a lot of people use.

            Sure, the eye test can tell you a lot more than stats can about an isolated shot, but over ten matches? Fifty? I can't even remember all the shots in the last match I saw! We're severely limited as human beings by our memories and bias'. Correctly using stats cuts through our limitations.

            But the eye test is still extremely useful of course, this isn't a replacement, but a supplement.

            1. LegendMoon
              • 3 Years
              2 months, 15 days ago

              The trouble with stats if I remember rightly from school is that you can prove anything with them if you look at the right stats, eg. Maupay's stats making him look good, if a defender has had 1 shot and scores with it, he has 100% accuracy doesn't make him ripe for the golden boot just as if in the next match Kane has 5 shots and misses the target with all of them doesn't mean he's a bad pick. Go with your gut!!!

              1. Giggs Boson
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                2 months, 15 days ago

                That's why I say 'correct use' of stats.

                A lot of people don't understand what they're looking at and as a result, make stupid conclusions like the examples you gave.

                Stats aren't for everyone. Do what you enjoy.

            2. Party time
              • 2 Years
              2 months, 15 days ago

              Hmmm. Interesting. Maybe xGOT is better than shots in the box or SOT
              as you reckon but I think SOT & xGOT kinda go hand in hand. For the first 3 or so gw’s Vardy was extremely reliant on penalty to get a SOT.

              Like you said xGOT works for most footballers & Vardy is one of them, on the long run, however, he rarely needs a lot of shots on target to be on the score sheet & most of his goals are in the box so shots in the box counts too for a Vardy type of player when using stats.

              Let’s not confuse ourselves

              1. Party time
                • 2 Years
                2 months, 15 days ago

                Let’s not confuse ourselves

                1. Party time
                  • 2 Years
                  2 months, 15 days ago

                  Holy Heck!

                  1. Party time
                    • 2 Years
                    2 months, 15 days ago

                    Stats are important it depends on the manager. It works for some & not for others, some managers don’t even watch the games but jump on bandwagons & use stats to get a good rank while others use stats & get a shitty rank.

                    I just believe the eye test is the truth but it is even stronger if one combines both. It all depends on the category of stat one is looking at.

                    1. Olson
                      • 6 Years
                      2 months, 15 days ago

                      Yeah the eye test is kind of the ultimate if you analyse things well. All of the stats are just simplified and summarised descriptions of what we are taking in by watching something. Like boson says though, memory and bias limit our ability to make use of that information effectively and like you say, both is best.

                      Stats alone is too basic, no stats leads to magical thinking

              2. Giggs Boson
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                2 months, 15 days ago

                I like to use 'xGOT' alongside 'xGOT Non-penalty' to put penalties into perspective. Yes, a huge majority of Vardy's threat is from penalties, but you can see his non-penalty threat in isolation too.

                1. Party time
                  • 2 Years
                  2 months, 15 days ago

                  Yes. You are right. Personally I use SOT & heat map but xGOT is easily more effective

                2. Party time
                  • 2 Years
                  2 months, 15 days ago

                  & of course eye test. I don’t fork with eye test

                3. Olson
                  • 6 Years
                  2 months, 15 days ago

                  stripping penalties from a specific game or few games and looking at what's left over always seems a bit crude as well. Helpful to look at what else happens alongside the penalities but foolish there isn't interplay between these variables.

                  1. Giggs Boson
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 9 Years
                    2 months, 15 days ago

                    I agree. To win a penalty you are often in a threatening position, and some teams are better than others at winning penalties.

                    But I have my own model to account for that 😉

                    1. Olson
                      • 6 Years
                      2 months, 15 days ago

                      Ha!

                      Yeah I think it's a fair assumption that that if defenders didn't concede pens we would see a rise in all of the box stats we use and ultimately goals and assists. And goals generally, pen or otherwise, change the pattern of play and impact all those other state. Though unravelling whether that should favour other stats or not would be a real rabbit hole and probably fools errand

      12. Bielsa Murderball
          2 months, 15 days ago

          newbie post here... what exactly is influence on fpl?

          1. Dark Side Of The Loon!
            • 4 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            Its that phone call/ whatsapp message from my wife that decides whether I can have another pint or not!

          2. Miguel Sanchez
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            In FPL I think it is the rank of where they sit amongst all the other players in their position.

            Forwards Kane = 1
            Midfielders Son = 1
            Defender Zouma = 1

            etc

            1. Miguel Sanchez
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 4 Years
              2 months, 15 days ago

              *by points accumulated in the current season

          3. Fulchester's New Centr…
            • 3 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            Not something worth worrying about if you have discovered this place.

          4. Party time
            • 2 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            Hmmm. Interesting. Maybe xGOT is better than shots in the box or SOT
            as you reckon but I think SOT & xGOT kinda go hand in hand. For the first 3 or so gw’s Vardy was extremely reliant on penalty to get a SOT.

            Like you said xGOT works for most footballers & Vardy is one of them, on the long run, however, he rarely needs a lot of shots on target to be on the score sheet & most of his goals are in the box so shots in the box counts too for a Vardy type of player when using stats.

            Let’s not confuse ourselves 😆
            Stats are important it depends on the manager. It works for some & not for others, some managers don’t even watch the games but jump on bandwagons & use stats to get a good rank while others use stats & get a shitty rank.

            I just believe the eye test is the truth but it is even stronger if one combines both. It all depends on the category of stat one is looking at.

            1. Party time
              • 2 Years
              2 months, 15 days ago

              Reply fail for fork sake

        • Sz21
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Anything worth a -4 here?
          Thinking Jimenez-> Richarlison may be an interesting punt with KDB or Sterling in for Son the week after or Jesus/ Werner in for Kane a possibility too.

          McCarthy.
          Cancelo, Chilwell, Mitchell.
          Son, Salah (c), Barkley, Grealish (vc).
          Kane, DCL, Jimenez.
          Button, Ayling, Justin, Bissouma.
          0ft, 1.8m ITB.

          1. wulfranian
            • 4 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            Good to go.Ayling over Mitchell.

          2. Fulchester's New Centr…
            • 3 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            Looks ok. Nothing worth a hit. Mitchell injured isn't he?

        • cuppatea78
          • 8 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Looking to get rid of Saiss. Who would be a good cheap replacement? Was thinking KWP. Anyone better?

          Already have Justin and Lamptey.

          1. Fulchester's New Centr…
            • 3 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            The goal scoring centre-back at Soton only costs a little more than KWP or maybe Coufal?

        • RECKLESS
          • 7 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Its so stupid that authorities dont mature with the pandemic and still rely on more expensive and time consuming Covid Test, rather than IGG+IGM antibody test which not only is cheap amd quick, it shows a 'vaccinated' assymptomatic person of last 6 months as thats minimum the antibodies stay in body. Enough research has been done that asymptomatic spreading chance is 10% the same way it would be for a vaccinated person having antibodies!

          1. Fulchester's New Centr…
            • 3 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            Good knowledege.
            I don't know anything of the science of it, but I assume that they do it because somebody influential makes more money that way.

          2. Aston VII lalalala
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            What are you on about? How is the antibody test helpful except to tell if someone recently had Covid?

        • Pdrpro
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          How's this wildcard team? Got 1.2ITB for bruno>KDB GW10 if want to

          Fabianski
          Cancelo Chilwell PVA
          Ziyech Salah Jota Grealish Bruno
          Jesus DCL

          4.0 Brewster Walker-Peters 3.9

          1. Miguel Sanchez
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            Wouldn't lose Bruno before those away games. He has a significantly better average away from home than at OT.

        • ChickenTikkaMoSalah
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          2 months, 15 days ago

          Vida had to get subbed off at half time because his positive test came back halfway through the game last night...

          These international breaks are bordering on delusional

          1. Amey
            • 2 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            Nonsensical

          2. Aston VII lalalala
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            2 months, 15 days ago

            Are you suggesting that the proceeded with the game despite the fact that test results had not come back?