The Promoted

What can we expect from Ivan Toney and Brentford’s midfielders in FPL?

Our series on the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) players from the newly promoted clubs concludes with this look at Brentford’s midfielders and forwards.

Bees striker Ivan Toney (£6.5m) is currently the second most popular FPL forward, with his 32% ownership not far off three times that of the rest of the Brentford squad put together.

So is the hype warranted and are there any other budget gems from Thomas Frank’s side that we’re overlooking in midfield and up top?

In this article, we will assess the west Londoners’ overall attacking prospects and then present a player-by-player rundown.

And in case you missed it, check out our guide to the Bees’ goalkeepers and defenders here.

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WHAT IS BRENTFORD’S GOAL-SCORING POTENTIAL IN FPL?

Brentford were the Championship’s highest-scoring side last season, an achievement they could also boast of in their near-miss campaign of 2019/20.

There was an almost even split in terms of home and away goals scored (39:40) in 2020/21 but the absence of fans from grounds may have been a contributing factor.

In previous campaigns, Frank’s troops were more prolific on home soil (44:36 in 2019/20 and 50:23 in 2018/19).

PWDLFAGDPTSCS
Total46241577942+378717
Home2312923920+194510
Away2312654022+18427

Above: Brentford’s home/away record in 2020/21


Underlying stats-wise, Brentford were in the top three for most attacking metrics – although did attempt 99 fewer shots than champions Norwich.

2020/21 total (rank v other Championship clubs)
Goals scored79 (1st)
Shots 621 (3rd)
Shots on target 207 (3rd)
Big chances70 (2nd)
Expected goals (xG)76.1 (2nd)

Above stats taken from fbref and fotmob

There’s almost always a drop-off in attacking output when a side comes up from the English second tier to face sterner tests, as RedLightning reported in his excellent yearly community article:

While they scored 76 goals on average as Championship teams, that figure dropped to just 40 in the Premier League.

Expecting the Bees to emulate the achievements of Leeds, who plundered a remarkable 62 goals last season, is overly optimistic, given that the tally recorded by Marcelo Bielsa’s side was a decade-long high for a newly-promoted club.

PLAYER BY PLAYER

2020/21: APPS, GOALS AND ASSISTS

PlayerPosAppsStartsGoalsAssists2021/22 FPL Position2021/22 FPL Price
Christian NørgaardDM/CB171500MID£5.0m
Shandon BaptisteCM1001
Jan ŽambůrekCM6001MID£4.5m
Mads BidstrupCM4100MID£4.5m
Josh DasilvaAM302654MID£5.5m
Mathias JensenCM453527MID£5.0m
Vitaly JaneltDM413633MID£5.0m
Saman GhoddosAM401632MID£5.5m
Tariqe FosuRW/LW391943MID£5.5m
Sergi CanósRW/LW463398MID£5.5m
Bryan MbeumoRW/LW4437810MID£5.5m
Halil DervişoğluST0000FWD£5.5m
Marcus ForssST39971FWD£5.5m
Ivan ToneyST45443110FWD£6.5m

THE MIDFIELDERS: CENTRAL/DEFENSIVE

As one would expect, there is little to shout about from a Fantasy perspective in the engine room.

Defensive midfielder Christian Norgaard (£5.0m) has zero goals in 59 Championships appearances and was even deployed at centre-half in the closing stages of 2020/21, with Frank moving to a wing-back system in the push for promotion.

Vitaly Janelt (£5.0m), who deputised for the injured Norgaard for much of the promotion-winning campaign, did chip in with half a dozen attacking returns but is very much a ‘number six’ with limited offensive threat.

As for new signing Frank Onyeka (£5.0m), the fact that the midfield spoiler was nicknamed ‘Free-Kick Frank’ at former club FC Midtjylland – not for his ability to convert dead-ball deliveries but for his fondness of a flying challenge – tells us all we need to know from a Fantasy perspective.

Head coach Thomas Frank suggests he will play as a number eight in the Bees’ system, so will at least operate further up the pitch than Janelt or Norgaard:

[Onyeka] plays as an eight in our system, he is very good at getting from box to box and will be valuable to us when we don’t have the ball. He has come from the Danish league and was one of the best midfield players in that league, we think he has the potential to develop further.

With his pace, power and ability to win the ball I am sure Frank will be a great addition to the Brentford squad.

Unlike the trio mentioned above, Mathias Jensen (£5.0m) probably warrants the extra half a million over the bargain-bin £4.5m rung.

The Dane was Brentford’s leading chance creator last season and only eight Championship players carved out more key passes than his 67.

A set-piece specialist, well over 40% of the chances he supplied were from free-kicks and corners.

Jensen banked seven assists in all, but whatever goal threat he posed was mostly from distance: over two-thirds of his shots came from outside the box.

There’s also the uncertainty over exactly which midfield combination Frank goes for, with Janelt, Norgaard, Jensen and Onyeka potentially competing for only two spots, depending on the set-up.

Jan Zamburek and Mads Bidstrup are best forgotten about in the £4.5m pool while Shandon Baptiste, back from a lengthy injury and still unpriced by FPL despite racking up the game-time in pre-season, only adds to the depth (and thus uncertainty) in the engine room.

THE MIDFIELDERS: ATTACKING/WINGERS

Frank opted for a 4-3-3 for much of last season, with Jensen often playing to the one side of the holding midfielder, be it Janelt or Norgaard.

The other component of that three-man midfield was less nailed-on in the second half of 2020/21, thanks to Josh Da Silva‘s (£5.5m) injury.

Da Silva was a regular in the first half of the campaign and indeed was an ever-present starter in the opening 17 games, going on to make Frank’s line-up on 26 occasions before a hip injury curtailed his campaign.

Da Silva contributed five goals and four assists in his outings and his average of 1.2 shots per game was the best of Brentford’s central midfielders although like Jensen, well over 60% of his efforts came from outside the box.

Rumours also persist that he will remain on the sidelines for quite some time and indeed he hasn’t been sighted in pre-season.

Saman Ghoddos (£5.5m) and the now-departed Emiliano Marcondes were occasionally thrown into the fray, the former looking overpriced given the sizeable rotation risk status he carries: only 16 of his 40 Championship appearances were from the start.

Wingers Tarique Fosu, Sergi Canos and Bryan Mbeumo also come in at the £5.5m mark.

It’s extremely unlikely that all three will be accommodated in a 4-3-3 but it’s possible in the 3-4-1-2 that Frank rolled out towards the end of 2020/21, with Canos at wing-back, Fosu in an advanced central midfield role and Mbeumo as an ‘out of position’ striker in a front two.

Fosu was often the makeweight in the 4-3-3, with just 13 starts coming before the Championship equivalent of Gameweek 41, when the Brentford boss switched to a wing-back system.

Canos was Brentford’s chief chance-creator from open play, with Jensen and Mbeumo’s key pass numbers bolstered by set-piece duties.

His minutes-per-shot average was also even better than that of Toney, although over half of the midfielder’s efforts came from outside the opposition area and just two arrived from inside the six-yard box.

Toney and Mbeumo, by contrast, had 16 and six such close-range efforts respectively.

Mins per shotMins per shot in the boxMins per chance created
Canos28.058.853.4
Mbeumo48.360.155.2
Fosu69.2112.4112.4
Toney28.636.482.2

Canos and Mbeumo are evenly matched for shots in the box and chances created over 2020/21 as a whole but the latter has attracted more pre-season coverage in the FPL world, with his end-of-season run-outs up front alongside Toney and involvement at set plays (including direct free-kicks) two strings to his bow.

In fact, Mbeumo had a poor season overall by his standards after an eye-catching, 15-goal debut campaign; the excellent performances just off Toney in the play-offs coming off the back of some underwhelming displays, with suggestions that long-COVID may have been taking effect.

We haven’t seen much of the wing-back system in pre-season but Mbeumo did score a rocket from the right flank in the 2-2 draw at Manchester United.

THE FORWARDS: IVAN TONEY AND OTHERS

FPL 2021/22 player price guide: Brentford

Three Brentford forwards are listed in FPL but two of them are mere footnotes.

Halil Dervisoglu (£5.5m) spent much of last season out on loan and has featured in only four Brentford games in two years, while only nine of impact substitute Marcus Forss‘s (£5.5m) 39 Championship appearances came from the start.

All the focus, of course, is on Toney.

An eye-catching total of 31 goals and 10 assists – a talismanic goal involvement figure in excess of 50% – was backed up by some promising underlying numbers.

The mid-price forward was placed third in the English second tier for goal attempts (135) and shots in the box (106) but a goal conversion rate of 23% is perhaps just as important given that it trumped those of fellow promoted strikers Patrick Bamford, Aleksandar Mitrovic and Teemu Pukki in the past three seasons.

Toney missed only 10 big chances in 2020/21; Bamford spurned over 30 of those gilt-edged opportunities in the preceding Championship season.

Toney (10) even edged out Mbeumo (nine), Jensen (nine) and Canos (eight) for big chances created last year, suggesting all-round points potential.

Nine of his goals did come from penalties, it must be said; there’ll surely be fewer of those around in the top flight next season.

Returning to RedLightning’s community piece is perhaps a good way to finish off as we adjust our expectations for the 31-goal striker as he prepares to step up in class:

14 of the 31 players who had been among the ten highest scorers of the season in the Championship in 2010-20 did manage to score 10 or more goals for the same team in the Premier League the following season.

The 31 averaged 19.7 goals in gaining promotion from the Championship, but only 8.1 in the next season’s Premier League.

15 of the 31 were new to the Premier League, averaging 9.1 goals each in their first Premier League season.

Leeds were a bit of an exception for a newly promoted club last season and, shorn of the investment that saw the Whites recruit talents like Raphinha and Rodrigo, Brentford likely won’t create as many chances for Toney as Bamford enjoyed at Elland Road.

But while there are understandable reservations about a player who hadn’t even played in the Championship until last season, a clinical talisman even in a low-scoring team – see Glenn Murray in Brighton’s 35-goal 2018/19 campaign – can still easily provide very decent value at £6.5m.

482 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Dynamic Duos
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Jota or Greenwood?

    1. Gunners in Haaland
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Greenwood

    2. SADIO SANÉ
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      *why not both GIF*

    3. xHaTr
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Personally think Robertson is a better pick than both for 0.5 cheaper

    4. Werner Bremen
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Jota

  2. Gunners in Haaland
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Play up Toney!

    1. Gunners in Haaland
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Too late

  3. Ser Davos
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Transfermarkt detailed stats

    Do wish FPL historically kept a record of everything week by week

  4. Ajax Hamsterdam
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    sarr or bowen? thanks

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Buendia or Raphinha if stretching to 6.5

    2. St Pauli Walnuts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Presuming no Ling the merciless return to hammers, Bowen

  5. OverTinker
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    So If Grealish goes to City it seems hard that City goes for Kane too right?

    1. St Pauli Walnuts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      I think the intention has always been to go for both. I think Levy will demand silly money though and City will walk away

    2. El Presidente
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Grealish is just a waste of money. City does not need him. But they do need a striker.

  6. Sulk
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Ok so I’ve gone full maverick because I’m bored of the the templates. The question is if you have 3 city players and Kane and Grealish locked in now and they both go to city then do you get to keep them until you make your first two transfers?

    Currently…

    Ederson
    Shaw maguire Dias stones
    Fernandes jota raph grealish
    Kane DCL

    4m 4m 4.5m 4.5m

    1. OverTinker
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      get Salah for Bruno

    2. Pep bites Kun
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      3 players per team max.

      1. Sulk
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        But if they’re already in my team…?

        1. headfried
          • 10 Years
          2 years, 10 months ago

          They'll be ok until you make a change, but as soon as you make a transfer you'll have to get rid of at least one, 2 if Grealish and Kane sign for City.

    3. xHaTr
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      No salah no Trent you need to stop tinkering

  7. King Kohli
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Choose one:

    A. Digne in a 4-4-2, to play every week
    B. ESR in a 3-5-2 rotated with a 4.5 def based on fixtures

    1. Stockport Hatter
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Find a way to go 343

  8. Malcolm Tucker
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Had Grealish in but as he is soon to join the ranks of Pep's satanic roulette he's out for me. Calum Wilson has already managed to pick himself up a knock, but as a Wilson owner that has to expected I suppose.

    Meslier
    TAA - Robbo - Shaw - Chilwell
    Salah - Raphinha - Buendia
    Nacho - Wilson - Antonio

    Foster - Coufal - Dele Alli - Brownhill

    1 million in the bank and Dele on the bench, a fun way to start a new season

    Any thoughts?

    1. One More Hit
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      It's different

    2. WVA
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Wilson has a knock?

        1. WVA
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 10 months ago

          Thank you

    3. St Pauli Walnuts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      No way that’s your Malc, no profanity

      1. Malcolm Tucker
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        I assume you're writing that from the backroom of the Bada Bing, Mr Walnuts

        1. St Pauli Walnuts
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 10 months ago

          I’ve actually been. It’s called Satin Dolls IRL, the owner’s portfolio also includes 3 hospitals oddly enough. One of the greatest day’s of my life

          1. Malcolm Tucker
            • 2 Years
            2 years, 10 months ago

            well I'm certainly a fan of their website, sounds a hell of a day

            (btw I am new to the FFS site, what's the policy on Tucker like language?)

            1. St Pauli Walnuts
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              2 years, 10 months ago

              Top tip if you ever go, the ATM pays out in $1 bills which is great for the intention behind it of having you twang them inside a g-string or seven, but not so great if I you just need some cashola.

              Welcome to FFS and good luck for the season! Not sure on the potty mouth, but never see any so I suspect there is a filter or something.

              1. Malcolm Tucker
                • 2 Years
                2 years, 10 months ago

                I'll keep that in mind, I suppose it is easier than hoping a pound coin can defy the structural realities of a g-string,

                good luck to you too brother, may you be blessed by the old gods and the new,

                now I better get to work testing the boundaries of this FFS filter...

  9. Sheffield Wednesday
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Arsenal defence double up anyone?

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Hope but happy to have Tierney and ESR

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        *nope

    2. headfried
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      By accident have Tierney and White, Had White in for Brighton so probably dump him for Veltman..... Brighton food rotation with Leeds

    3. Stamford B
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Tierney is the nuts if played at wing back but you can’t rely on the geezer and for that reason, I’m out.

  10. One More Hit
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    I'm willing to take the risk on Toney on the hope he's more of a Pukki/Bamford, than a Mitrovic.

    Looks like a flurry of late transfers are going to kill off premium forward(s) - are there really any other than Kane - but assuming Grealish does go to City then it seems he's essential. Add in Salah and Fernandes, then you're really scraping the barrel to try and get Kane in at all.

    1. Cheeto__Bandito
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      clearly not essential, Grealish would be a better asset at Villa playing almost every game. Just another City attacker player that will get about 2000 mins.

      1. One More Hit
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        At £8m though? Can cope with the rotation at that kind of money

        1. Cheeto__Bandito
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 10 months ago

          Maybe, big risk at start of season though.

          1. One More Hit
            • 5 Years
            2 years, 10 months ago

            Need to try and hold nerve with first wildcard but assuming the template goes to pot within 3 GWs, easily shifted out for a number of different options. Horses for courses I guess.

            I've just gone through the strikers list, see Auba has been reclassified back up there but Vardy's price stands out as very high in comparison to the others at 8/8.5.

            Won't be going for Kane early on until we see what's happening form/transfer wise, if he stays at Spurs, better pray Nuno drops the defensive mindset.

            1. Cheeto__Bandito
              • 3 Years
              2 years, 10 months ago

              See alot saying they'll use early wildcard. But that gives an advantage to the people who do the opposite. Thats why minimal risks, proven players and no new to league is what im going for.

    2. WVA
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Grealish less appealing at City

  11. Cheeto__Bandito
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    A) Son, Greenwood, Coleman/Shaw

    B) Bruno, Raphinha, Veltman

    Best option?

    1. WVA
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      B

  12. Ginkapo FPL
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Can anyone explain financial fair play as I clearly dont understand it?

    1. Stamford B
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      It’s quite simple. It’s a system designed to keep the status quo.

  13. Thinkering like a Boss
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Ivan Toney is one handsome dude but he keep making troll face lol

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      They always use that picture of him, don't think I'd recognise him not doing that expression

  14. Fake Madrid
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Always seem to be the same Template for most fantasy teams.

    We all seem to mostly follow each other blindly.

    1. George Sillett
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Same every year. Lots of meaningless RMT's before pre season transfers are made , plenty of similar teams and then idiots blaming the advice given on this site when GW1 doesn't yield a sack load of points.

    2. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Sà, Söndergaard
      Mee, Walker-Peters, Konsa, Maguire, VVD
      Sterling, Mane, Benrahma, Pepe, Romeu
      Firmino, Wood, Adams

      £0.0 ITB

      Are you happy now?

    3. Thinkering like a Boss
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      When one time I have Alli and Pepe in my team, someone said

      "Transfers waiting to happen or worse a gw2 wc."

      1. Union_Jacks
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        People love to shoot down creative thinking on here

  15. xHaTr
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Thoughts on this 4-3-3?

    Sanchez
    TAA Shaw Robertson Digne
    Salah Raphinha Bruno
    Watkins Toney Antonio

    Steele Ayling Brownhill Gilmour

    1. George Sillett
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Very similar to mine. Best change it.

    2. St Pauli Walnuts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Scroll up one post

      1. xHaTr
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        Always seem to be the same Template for most fantasy teams.

        We all seem to mostly follow each other blindly.

        1. Flynny
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 10 months ago

          Love it. Similar to one of 2 options

          Are you cool with 2 fodder mids? Doesn't it lack flexibility??

  16. Sloths
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    AA & Bachman
    Or
    Robertson & Meslier?

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Robbo and Mes

      1. Sloths
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        thanks

  17. Stamford B
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Dissapointment

    1. George Sillett
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Can't guess that one. What's the second clue ?

      1. Stamford B
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        The answer to the question in the article you never read

  18. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Evening all!! What do we think to this team?? Thinking about a WC in gameweek 7 working towards….. with United not having a decent preseason maybe they may start like last season again so happy to go with Mane for the first two atleast and easy switch to Bruno if needed quickly !! DCL could be Nacho or Wilson too, thoughts welcomed!!

    Sanchez
    TAA Digne Veltman
    Salah Mane Greenwood Sarr
    DCL Antonio Watkins
    Subs- Steele Brownhill White Johnson

    Cheers all!!!

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      DCL fit for the start? Greenwood nialied? Mane, really?

      1. Stamford B
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        What’s wrong Mane?

        1. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 10 months ago

          Just so expensive for a no pen, non-captain.

          1. Stamford B
            • 2 Years
            2 years, 10 months ago

            Ah yes. I forget he’s mad expensive in fpl

      2. Cok3y5murf
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        How dare he go off template!

      3. George Sillett
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        Rashford out Grenwood nialied. Mane a good punt.

      4. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        Not sure he is but like I said he could be Wilson or Nacho, Greenwood will gets plenty of minutes without Rashford there, and Mane for the first two Norwich away and Burnley at home and then reassess, but there as a Bruno place holder

        1. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 10 months ago

          *reply to Fulchester

        2. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 10 months ago

          Fair enough. I'm on no Bruno too at present. Not sure I'd cap much in first couple of months and 100% EO every week is maddening - damned if he does well, damned if he doesn't.

          1. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            2 years, 10 months ago

            Yeah mate that’s right!! Mane to Son and captain him in gameweek 3 is in my thoughts, could even to Mane to KDB in gameweek 2 and captain him aswell, still two weeks of tinkering tho so no doubt the team will change!! Like most!! Haha

    2. George Sillett
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Like it. Gone for Wilson myself and like the Greenwood punt.
      Shame your manager went to West Brom. I think with him in charge they will win the championship by a distance.

      1. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        Yeah I like Wilson too mate, DCL, Wilson and Nacho I cannot
        Make my mind up out of them 3 so I just put DCL
        Coz he’s most expensive in there for now!!
        Yeah gutted to lose him and our captain Mowatt to them too!! And half of our coaching staff to them and our CEO to Nottingham Forest!!! We go one step forward and two steps back again!!! Oh to be a Barnsley fan!!! Haha

  19. Jrot94
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    When I first looked at prices, thought there was great value at the 4.5 defenders. Have to say seeing a lot more value at the 5.0? Maybe lampney’s injury effecting it?

    TAA/Shaw/digne/tierney/ reguillon is my current draft in a 433. Reg/tier have attacking upside for limited extra money and rotate well out of the gate. Still can afford 2 bit hitters, 3 strikers and buendia/raph

    Am I crazy to go no 4.5 defenders

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Not crazy, but 4-3-3 lacks a bit of flexibility depending on your attitude to hits.

      1. Jrot94
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        Sanchez / 4.0
        TAA. Shaw. Digne. Tierney.
        Salah. Bruno. 6.5
        8.0. 7.5. 7.5
        Reguilon 4.5 MF. 4.5 MF

        Only thing I can’t grab is a mid priced MF (eg havertz).

        1. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 10 months ago

          Looks pretty good.
          Lets hope Spurs are not last season's Spurs or Wolves and Regu becomes a steal.

    2. Snevitz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Remove Shaw for a £4.5m permantly benched and that is my defence with 3 starting each week.

      1. Jrot94
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        What did you spend the extra 1m on? Cant see a better place to spend it

        1. Snevitz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 10 months ago

          Same strikers as you.
          Midfield is Salah, Son, Buendia, Raphinha, ESR.
          I like a decent rotating bench

          1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
            • 7 Years
            2 years, 10 months ago

            Curious to see your whole team!

            1. Snevitz
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              2 years, 10 months ago

              You pretty much have it now.
              Sanchez, £4m
              TAA, Digne, Tierney, Reguilon, £4.5m
              Salah, Son, Buendia, Raphinha, ESR
              Bamford, Watkins, Iheanacho.

              Possibly Watkins to Jimenez week 4.
              Very likely Buendia to Harrison week 5.

              1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
                • 7 Years
                2 years, 10 months ago

                Ha, true. I'm tired (;
                My current team has the very same front 8
                Only differences are Shaw + 4.5 in mine overly Tierney + Reggie in yours.

                1. Snevitz
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  2 years, 10 months ago

                  It seems to be a strong front 8 to start, good captaincy rotation, great opening fixtures and hopefully lots of under valued players.

                  1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
                    • 7 Years
                    2 years, 10 months ago

                    Totally agreed.
                    And a strong bench feels necessary.

        2. Jrot94
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          2 years, 10 months ago

          Have to think Shaw will outscore ERS or any 5.5 MF?

          1. Snevitz
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            2 years, 10 months ago

            The 4 existing defenders rotate well across 3 spots and ESR will only play when he has an easier fixture than Leeds or he comes off my bench.

  20. Stamford B
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Best debut album ever?
    I’ll start…. Black Sabbath

    1. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Rate my debut album.

    2. Yossi
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      I'm not sure

      1. Stamford B
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        It’s true, there’s a few to choose

    3. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Appetite for Destruction

      1. Fulchester's New Centr…
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        Or Definitely Maybe

        1. Stamford B
          • 2 Years
          2 years, 10 months ago

          Was thinking this is up there.

    4. xHaTr
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      The Smiths

      1. Stamford B
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        Ploos 1

    5. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Outlandos d'Amour
      Blondie
      Pretenders

      Good years to be young those

    6. Rock n Grohl
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Kasabian

    7. Drexl Spivey
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      The Velvet Underground & Nico

    8. Earwicker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Velvet Underground for a top choice, but De La Soul 3ft High and Rising for the win.

      1. BeaversWithAttitude
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        Both great choices!

    9. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Bens Brother

    10. Sheffield Wednesday
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Best debut album ever?

      Björk - Debut

    11. The Habib Beyes
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Stone Roses - Stone Roses

    12. Jordan.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      definitely maybe ,so many great tunes...

  21. Dynamic Duos
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Ended up with this , did Sanch to Greenwood to add depth. Thoughts?

    Sanchez
    TAA White Targett
    Salah Son Mahrez Greenwood Raph
    Watkins Antonio

    Foster Reguilon Ayling Obafemi

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Couple of punts, could be good.

  22. SADIO SANÉ
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    anyone know how often Walker and Cancelo BOTH started last season?

  23. Fake Madrid
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    TTA before Robbo?

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Yes, if poss

  24. headfried
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Son being overlooked? Gone 3 5 2 to get him in.
    Sanchez
    Taa Tierney Veltman/Ayling
    Bruno Salah Son Buendia Bowen
    Toney Watkins
    Foder. Foster, B. Williams, Davis.
    Prob WC GW6 or 7

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Bench bit thin maybe. Bowen to say Harrison or someoen (I have a feeling about Townsend based on when he played for Rafe before) and upgrade Bwilliams?

    2. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Have something very similar with Townsend over Bowen and Coufal in defence with just one 4.5 defender.

      Issue for me is whether the fifth mid might not be better in defence. Essentially Digne over Townsend.

  25. Fake Madrid
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Team so far

    Sanches Bachmann

    TTA Robbie Tierney Corful Ayling Codnor White

    Salah Son Barnes Gilmour Ralph

    Toney Nacho Watkins

    Still want to downgrade TTA and Robbo to upgrade rest of the team

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Auto-correct not doing you many favours and including Codnor(?) you seem to have a 16 man squad.
      Don't think Barnes has kicked a ball yet in pre-season so maybe a wait and see.

  26. Jdpz
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Why do people choose a 4.5m forward who doesn't play, instead of a 4.5m defender whose price may go up? They love 3-5-2?

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Midfiled is where the points are usually at and can get away with 2 subs nearly all the time

    2. Stamford B
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      To put funds into your first 11. There was a time when you didn’t need 3 subs but in these COVID times you never know how many postponements are around the corner.

  27. Fish up a tree
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone not going with any Liverpool defenders for now until VVD is fully fit & playing? Don’t see them keeping too many clean sheets early doors personally

    1. Paqueta Rice
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Van Dijk already got minutes yesterday although he was made a show of by Jovetic. Norwich and Burnley first two so im going both Trent and Robertson

    2. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Even in a terrible season like last year, guess who were the 2 best scoring defs

      1. Fish up a tree
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        Good point

  28. Totalfootball
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    That arsenal shirt looks so much better (in transfers section) on Ben White.
    The Brighton shirt just forced me to move him even though I knew he transferred.

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Annoyed me too, I had White spelt H_O_L_D_I_N_G for the last few weeks

      1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        Lol same here

  29. a bloke
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Seeing quite a few weak benches in RMTs....aren’t people concerned about the pingdemic making random players unavailable for perhaps 2 GWs? Also, squad outbreaks resulting it games postponed is a real threat.
    To combat this surely 15 starters, all capable of reasonable returns is the way to go?
    Let’s say that one match is called off in a GW, isn’t it better then to only have 2 players from any one team, so that the most players a manager would have affected by a single postponement is 4?

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Both the 1st covid postponement with Arsenal and a year or so later the Utd/Liv game being put back both caused me major headaches, but will I learn? Probably not.

      1. FPL Theorist
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        It really depends whether you care about individual GW scores. Utd/Liv hurt everyone similarly in that one GW and then if you had lots of them as most did, you benefited during the TGW. Meanwhile Mark needed a giant sofa to hide behind as a non-Bruno owner.

    2. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Don’t think so, once the rules are changed people with 2 jabs won’t need to isolate so I think it’ll be quite a bit less

      Same happened last season in a huge Covid wave everyone thought the season would be cancelled and in the end 1 or 2 games was it

      The kind of money involved now they won’t let it happen

  30. Paqueta Rice
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    My midfield is very light but I like the starting XI with the rotations for the first 6weeks without having to make any transfers. I obviously will but just saying. Ars/Spurs better start well though…

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      ESR "could" make a mockery of his price tag, but you have lost me with Gray.

      1. Paqueta Rice
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        To be honest I have .5 itb if I put Leno back to Sanchez and Gray is a placeholder for Raphina. Not sure if I will stick with him though.