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Mane’s absence explained as Klopp benches Firmino for trip to in-form West Ham

Liverpool are without the services of Sadio Mane (£11.9m) for their match against West Ham United this afternoon, which kicks off at 16:30 GMT.

The Senegalese winger, who was transferred in by over 130,000 Fantasy Premier League managers following his 15-point haul in Gameweek 20, misses out with what Liverpool say is a “minor muscle injury”.

The Reds add that the problem is “expected to be only a short-term issue”.

His manager added ahead of kick-off:

In fact, only one of the Reds’ regular front three makes Jurgen Klopp’s starting XI today.

Mohamed Salah (£12.5m) is joined in the reigning champions’ attacking trident by Divock Origi (£5.2m) and Xherdan Shaqiri (£6.4m), with Roberto Firmino (£9.4m) only among the substitutes.

Along with the two changes to his front three, Klopp has replaced the injured Joel Matip (£5.4m) with Nat Phillips (£4.0m) at centre-half.

The Hammers are unchanged from the side that won 3-2 at Crystal Palace and David Moyes has even named the same nine substitutes from that victory.


West Ham United XI: Fabianski, Coufal, Dawson, Ogbonna, Cresswell, Rice, Soucek, Fornals, Bowen, Benrahma, Antonio.

Liverpool XI: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Phillips, Henderson, Robertson, Wijnaldum, Milner, Thiago, Shaqiri, Salah, Origi.

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  1. FER FUSCH AKE
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Zambian witchdoctor extended Salah's PL blank run for another 5 games.

    1. Botman and Robben
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Haha

    2. Londongeezaa
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Curse was on auto renew. Forgot to cancel

      1. Utopsis
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Haha bloody mm autorenew

    3. circusmonkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      He's put a curse on my purchases of Chelsea defenders too.

  2. DannyDrinkVodka
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Surely Firmino comes in early in the second half, Origi is useless....

  3. Captain Vantastic™
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Borefest these games

  4. fusen
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Next week do I play DCL or Bamford? I was going to have Bamford first on my bench, but is that unwise considering the form of them both...

    1. FER FUSCH AKE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Both. If you hockey cockey you're getting burned guaranteed.

    2. Make United Great Again
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Both

    3. citizenkane
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Same, was going to bench Bamford.

      Have Salah Bruno Grealish Son Gundogan DCL Bamford Antonio. Now seriously considering benching Antonio.

      1. fusen
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        that's my exact front 8 also

        1. citizenkane
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Who are you leaning towards benching?

  5. wulfrunian
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Good game from Phillips.

  6. mezza
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Anyone surprised with how defensive West Ham have been? I thought they’d be going all out to win this game leaving space in behind for Salah (part of the reason I captained him). Look to be plying for a 0-0.

    1. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      No.

    2. George Sillett
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Not really .I can't imagine a Moyes team going all out to win any game.

      1. BoleynWin
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Spanking Wolves 4-0, Leicester 3-0, beating Palace 3-2 only last week....

        Judging us after a first half performance against the champions of England & Europe, seems fair.

        1. George Sillett
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          They didn't go all out in any of those games if you watched them properly.

    3. ivantys
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Can't do that if pool are hoarding possession and doing nothing.

    4. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Nope. They are flying. Well above where their management team and Board think they ought to be. They will take a 0-0 all day.

      Personally think that no fans has helped West Ham. Some clubs like Wolves, Palace, Sheff Utd have suffered from not having fans. But we have seen how toxic the London Stadium becomes when West Ham are playing 'boring' or 'negative' football or when they are 'parking the bus'.

      But it is the strong defence combined with Soucek winning headers that has led to West Ham's success this season.

      1. wulfrunian
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Spot on.

    5. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      We don’t need to.

      We are sitting strong vs Liverpool and will get our chances.

      If we continue like this who knows, we may nick it 1:0......

      If we went gun ho vs Liverpool they’d need up picking us apart.

    6. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Not at all, Moyes will always park the bus against top teams.

    7. MagicMessi
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Klopp thought that too

  7. Niho992
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    You dance through the midfield like nobody does, the first time I saw you I knew it was love...

    Thiago, Thiago Alcantara

    Wonderful player

    1. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Boring now.

    2. George Sillett
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Yawn yawn yawn.

    3. Marvin Moon
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      You're quite pathetic.

      1. George Sillett
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Quite is a massive understatement

  8. Rainer
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Ben Davies of Preston supposedly Liverpool’s CB target.

    Any Preston/Championship watchers, what’s he like?

    1. fedolefan
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Maybe Ben Davies of FFS will know?

      1. Rainer
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        You would hope.

        Another Bavies 🙂

  9. Nightcrawler
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Only had 5 cap blanks this whole season

    4 of them Salah...now about to be 5th

    Will never learn

    1. Captain Vantastic™
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I miss the times of RVP and Suarez. Just set and forget

      1. Nightcrawler
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Or Salah 17/18

        Those 3 seasons were also the only ones ive finished top 1k....outside top 10k all other seasons

        Game becomes much easier without cap decisions for sure

  10. Flair
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    The Euros is going to be a massive letdown.

    1. Make United Great Again
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Players will be so burned out.

    2. FantasyTony
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Can't see the euros happening given all the traveling required.

      1. Hybrid.power
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        This. Especially since it's spread over different countries.

    3. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Cancel it. Should’ve already.

    4. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Would be best to cancel - give players decent rest and crazy to be travelling across multiple European cities

  11. JELLYFISH
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Who to keep out of Mitchell and Struijk?

    1. DA Minnion (Former great)
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Stru

      1. JELLYFISH
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        That was my thinking too with PVA evidently back

    2. Vazza
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      PVA played his last game for CPA yesterday as he is joining Arsenal tomorrow supposedly

    3. ivantys
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Wait another game first for Mitchell.

  12. DA Minnion (Former great)
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Biggest let off ever. Was gonna do Kane to Dcl for a hit and bench Bamford but decided against it. Would have been devastating.

  13. FPL Daniel
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Bamford as my vice captain doing great

    1. squ1rrel
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      almost as great as my digne captain

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Close call 😉

  14. Pep Roulette
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Is Nathaniel Phillips the son of David Guetta?

    1. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Yes 🙂

  15. FPL Daniel
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    @Soucek owners. He is in my first 11. He never ever scored for me team so don't have high expectations this GW. Sorry

    1. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Same, benched 5 of his 7 goals

    2. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Will take 3

  16. FPL Daniel
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Late to the parry but feel free to join me in the celebration

    Bamfooorddddd juhuuuuuu

    Dallas juhuuuuu

    Bam Bam yeaaaah get in

  17. FPL Daniel
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Where is Mane ?

    1. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Minor muscle issue.

    2. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I called him up and told him I benched Bamford, he immediately understood my plight. Nice guy.

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Oh my. Jammy.

        Will he be fine for next GW? He is my planned transfer in

        1. Flair
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          We don't know. With the short turnaround I'd be concerned but Klopp said it was minor, can only wait for updates.

    3. Pep Roulette
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Injured

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Thanks lads

    4. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Try reading the article.

    5. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Celebrating Bamford jam

    6. FantasyTony
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Heard he didn't want to go to Stratford

  18. Woy_is_back
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Lets go 0-0. Take me into top 50k

  19. Botman and Robben
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    What is up with Bamford's dead leg?

    1. TheDragon
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      It just got tired from all the goal scoring / assisting

      He said he is fine

    2. Lazaretti
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      He said himself that he is ok

    3. abhirup780
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Was limping at the last minute. There is a chance that he may miss the next.

    4. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Excuse to go back to 2-2-1

    5. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Said fine so not sure why fpl decided to yellow him

  20. Shark Team
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Somehow I have 5/5 successful captains Vs Fulham so I'm tempted to captain Maddison this gw and Antonio in gw23

  21. Netters2018
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Is my bench right? Or swap one of the Leeds vs Eve as have 4 playing for soucek?
    DDG
    Digne, Dallas, Stones, Cancelo
    Salah Bruno (c) Gundogan, Son
    Bamford DCL
    Bench : Soucek, Coufal, Brewster

  22. FPL Daniel
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    300 pts

    260 pts

    220 pts

    Someone is in decline and we keep refusing to admit it

    1. TheDragon
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      220 is still a lot of points

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Not for 13 millions

        1. Nightcrawler
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Ummm yes even for 13 mil (he was 12m i think?)

    2. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Foo Fighter is remembered.

      1. George Sillett
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Nah. Very easily forgotten.

      2. SEXY SOLO SAUCE
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Gosh whatever happened to him

    3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Don’t let Foo Fighter see this

      Somewhere someplace that Hot Topic is still going....

      1. Nightcrawler
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        ??

      2. Zilla
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        That was legendary

  23. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Who would you get rid of first
    ( assuming all miss midweek games)

    A Raphinha to Soucek
    B Bamford to Wilson
    C Mané to Son or Grealish
    D Keep all on bench and hope back for next weekend

    1. wulfrunian
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      d

    2. Lazaretti
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      D

  24. Lazaretti
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Next week captain is going to be very tough. If both Wood and Barnes out then maybe ManC defender?

    1. Woy_is_back
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Salah time 😀

      1. Lazaretti
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Need to get him inti my team. Ooh wait he might be rested

      2. Old Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Don't get your hopes up - expect 2 or 3 points.

  25. EffPeeEll
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Is anyone else shipping Chilwell out ?

    Lot of defender cash just sat there on the bench.

    1. TheDragon
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Chelsea is a no go now until we see a settled formation. Surely he is first choice but who knows

      1. Flynny
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        I don't know what to do with him.

        May bench him midweek abd start dallas

        1. TheDragon
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          If you have him I’d still start him (unlikely to cameo)

    2. Maddamotha
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Considering. But for who tho?

  26. _Ninja_
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Leeds v Everton midweek.

    Bench Bamford or DCL?

    1. Lazaretti
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Play both

      1. Woy_is_back
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Dis

    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      LoL
      GL 🙂

    3. TheDragon
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Neither - great fixture for both of them

    4. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Neither.

    5. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      May be benching Gundo over both...

    6. Duke Silver ☑
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I'm playing both.

    7. _Ninja_
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Bench one of Salah Gundo Grealish Bruno Son
      Antonio instead?

      1. TheDragon
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Wait and see how Son looks without Kane tonight

      2. Lazaretti
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        At least you will have some cover from the bench..

    8. g40steve
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Benching headache, go with gut.

      1. _Ninja_
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        My gut made me bench Bamford this week 🙁

    9. MagicMessi
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I'll play DcL
      But you play both

  27. nkhoughton
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Is there a benefit to keeping the WC? For the purposes of a future double game week?

  28. @persecuted_by_mods
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Can't even rely on Penalah to score via penalty with Milner on the pitch

    • g40steve
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      What do we think Wilson’s chances vs Palace mid week?

      1. HashAttack
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        He got 12 points in each of the EVE and CRY reverse fixtures, so hoping it's another good game for him

    • Duke Silver ☑
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Need Pool to score. Too many jammy hammers defeners coming off benches.