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The Community Round Up

The search for value, in particular among defenders, was a central focus of this week’s discussions, which also covered the prospects of La Liga stars in the Premier League and marked the premature retirement of one the Fantasy Football’s most successful Spaniards.

Our community writers also focus on player pricing, top tips for success in Fantasy Premier League’s draft game as well as ownership trends.

Bonus magnets in the Sky Sports game are among the topics covered in our Members table round-up and we finish off with a look at the latest community tournaments available.

The Community Articles

With more than 700,000 now signed up to the Fantasy Premier League, the ownership trends have been fluctuating markedly since its launch. Milvus’ community article on ownership trends takes a key look at the significant early movement.

One group of players that are seeing significant activity are premium defenders, including wing-backs that offer potential returns at both ends. Whether this group of players offer better value than mid-price midfielders is the subject of FPL Virgin’s debut community article.

Positively priced punts are the focus of The Boose’s latest piece, as he considers those who offer considerable bang for their buck from FPL’s player list.

Elsewhere, Spreadsheet has turned to his abacus to assess whether misfiring attackers one season are able to dramatically improve their goal conversion rate over their next campaign. This follows on from Prokoptas’ article earlier this month on the Plexiglas Principle, which seeks to find out if underperforming players can strengthen their returns over time.

To help those playing FPL’s draft game, our resident expert Pav A Nice Day dropped by to offer his guidance on constructing the perfect player list for the forthcoming draft nights.

Don’t forget, if you’ve got some analysis, scout reports or features brewing, be sure to visit our community section to submit your article.

The Hottest Topics

The community articles section’s focus on rearguard options spilled out into our Hot Topics with That Posh Bloke casting his monocled eye over some spiffing chaps in defence.

Bournemouth defenders have piqued the interest of Miguel Sanchez, who canvassed views on whether centre back Nathan Ake or full back Charlie Daniels are the best options from the Cherries backline. While Lucy made a triumphant return to offer guidance on the best Southampton defenders to invest in, as part of her look at Saints assets.

Newcastle and Swansea’s kindly priced defenders are on Teddy’s radar, after his research found that the two sides rotate strongly for those who track the fixtures and are looking to save funds in defence.

There was further consideration of defensive rotation in our discussion of the best goalkeeper strategy.

Pre-season friendlies offer Fantasy managers the perfect opportunity to gather vital clues on whether their picks will be sure starters and offer returns.

However, so far the 19.6% of FPL managers who own Paul Pogba been left disappointed by his performances, according to our discussion on lessons learned from the summer fixtures played so far.

The dream of a more attacking role for the Frenchman is still yet to be realised.

In contrast, Pogba’s team-mate Henrikh Mkhitaryan has impressed, with a goal and an assist midweek during the Red Devil’s US tour. We wondered why, given his advanced role and strong summer form, he is still only in 4.3% of FPL squads.

Crystal Palace kicked off their summer preparations with a 2-0 loss to Liverpool to dent interest in their assets. But with a strong opening set of fixtures Andy8wsm ponders whether their newly appointed captain Jason Puncheon may at last turn his enticing underlying statistics into Fantasy points. As followers of the Scoutcast last season will know, that is an issue I may be reluctant to revisit for a second successive campaign.

At least the 5.0 priced Eagles midfielder is cheap, even if he doesn’t offer good value based on his history. This difference between a player’s price and their real value is an issue that Deulofail addresses in his latest discussion.

The price tag of Chelsea’s incoming new recruit, Alvaro Morata, was eagerly awaited this week. But, as Ownership Tactic asks, can the Real Madrid striker do it on a cold windy night in Stoke? He added to this discussion with a roll call of those who have made a successful transition from La Liga to the Premier League, as well as those who failed to make the grade.

If Morata, who is also the subject of this discussion by Prokoptas,  gets off to a good start, team plans may need to change to accommodate him. This is where a flexible FPL friend can help out, says our Hot Topic on players that can easily be jettisoned to make way for an early season bandwagon.

One such bandwagon in FPL’s past is Michu, who scored an incredible 18 Premier League goals for Swansea in the 2012/13 season and this week sadly announced his retirement through injury. Wild Rover was among those who dropped by to pay their respects to the Spaniard.

Bargain hunters were once again out in full force this week as they rummaged through the player list in search of gems. Aaron Ramsey, Arsenal’s 7.0 valued midfielder who has scored once and assisted another goal in pre-season, is among those garnering interest. But Drip Doctor warns that patience may be needed with the Welshman, who he doubts will be able to produce frequent attacking points.

Chelsea’s development squad is proving an attractive source of budget midfielders. New Watford signing Nathan Chalaboah and Reuben Loftus Cheek – who is on loan at Crystal Palace – have attracted the attention of Scotty B, based on the promise of more game time at their new clubs. Both are priced at 4.5 but AceKn1ght urges Fantasy managers to make sure they also consider the potential of midfielders priced at 5.0.

Southampton are proving another prime route for those in search of value, with the south coast outfit figuring prominently in Pukka-Geoff’s discussion on teams to double, or even triple up, on.

Meanwhile, value from third strikers is the subject of Pele Alli’s latest Hot Topic, with Triggerlips adding to the debate by asking whether Newcastle forward Dwight Gayle deserves to be in our frontlines.

Sales shoppers are steering clear of Liverpool this season with their stars of 2016/17, including Philippe Coutinho, suffering value hikes. Given that the Reds look set to rotate around Champions League games, we asked whether their assets may be best avoided. The no-Liverpool player strategy of last year’s FPL winner and Everton fan Ben Crabtree certainly offers a powerful case for adopting this potentially risky tactic.

123thro is looking to go further than Ben by basing his team around avoiding players from last year’s top six sides and asked for your tips of other assets to consider.

Finally, Athletico Timbo asked the community to dust off their crystal balls and predict who will be next season’s Fantasy hits and misses.

To view all our discussions please visit our Hot Topics page.

The Members Tables

Spreadsheet has created a table entitled, ‘should have scored more’, in support of his community article on misfiring attackers’ potential for improvement.

For those playing Sky Fantasy Football Disable has made a table dedicated to players who have dominated the game’s bonus point allocation.

Elsewhere, Mynjdusta has constructed two tables looking at the best defender prospects and goalkeepers with impressive underlying statistics.

If you’re a member and are yet to get to grips with the custom statistics tables, you can view this movie for an explanation of how they work. Also, remember to tag them so that people can find the tables with ease.

The Community Tournaments

PDM is looking for those who have finished at least one FPL season within the top 1,000 to join his Top 1K Any Season league (21265-6670), and those with at least one top 10,000 finish are invited to join Red Lightning’s Top 10,000 Any Season league. (757-400).

Finally, a reminder that Torres Magic’s Last Man Standing contest (44937-13340) is still open for entries.

If you are running a community tournament and would like the latest scores included in future Community Round-ups, please email us summary of the current leaders and a link to your league, spreadsheet or head to head competition, at jonty@fantasyfootballscout.co.uk.

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2,626 Comments Post a Comment
    1. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      He sometimes looks a bit kak at them but you can't argue with that stat.

      1. Camp No No
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I don't get why you think he looks "a bit kak at them", he looks very convincing to my eye. A bit like those old days takers, like Cantona, who had the technique to change their decision on last fraction of second when GK had already made his decision, and just almost could not fail.

        1. Dr Dream
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I'm very much just hit the damned thing low and hard. No mucking about because you'll come unstuck sooner or later....and make an arse of yourself in the process.

          1. Camp No No
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Ok. I've always appreciated the artist.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d27AbS6Wl9k

            😉

    2. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      This is 9 months old and doesn't include the misses from last season. He's not so good anymore.

  1. sunzip14
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Please pick top 3 from the following four:

    Lindelof, Trippier, Daniels, Cedric

    1. Live Lad
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      The last 3

      1. UnitedFan
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        +1

      2. SEXY SALAH
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        This

      3. sunzip14
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        If Begovic comes in the picture, does the top 3 remain the same?

        1. Live Lad
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Only if you play Bego regularly. I do like Man U's CS chances but can we know who will start as CBs? A lot of options for Mouhinho in that department.

    2. Live Lad
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      actually I prefer Bertrand who can score goals.

  2. Bambi
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    It feels dirty not to start with a city forward. Is KDB enough 'cover'?

    1. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Kdb will score the most points from City imo.

    2. Live Lad
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Yes. I'm picking Kun ahead of Kane for first few GWs. (will I ever learn?)

    3. Mavric Marco
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I've only got Sané as City cover

    4. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Yes. Sane is the only City player I have.

    5. SEXY SALAH
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Fo sure yes

  3. Live Lad
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Hart + Foster could be great but we will end up benching the wrong one. Foster + Myhill better with WBA fixtures?

  4. Mavric Marco
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Robertson @5.0 for Lfc

    R.I.P Milner owners

    1. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Not if Milner plays in midfield.

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Don't think we'll see that unless there's an injury crisis or need someone to see the last few minutes out. Henderson, Can, Wijnaldum, Lallana, Coutinho, +1 are all ahead of Milner for midfield. Maybe Grujic too, if he isn't loaned out.

        1. FPL Virgin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I disagree. Managers love Milner. Very rarely gets dropped. As Pellegrini once said "He does everything well."

          1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            That is like saying managers love rooney...
            Milner is being phased out and will become a utility player fairly quickly.
            Like Phil Neville at Man united

    2. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Is that his confirmed price?

      1. Mavric Marco
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        In the tweets berb

        1. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Ta. Let's see if he starts the important pre season game(s) in Germany.

          1. Mavric Marco
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Aye! And Mané, I'll be looking for him to prove his fitness or he's out my team

        2. Ser Davos
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          FPL tweeting prices still. Release the game!!

    3. Camp No No
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Will he certainly oust Milner for that LB spot?

      1. Mavric Marco
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Yes IMHO

        Milner was never a LB, just doing a job for the team

        1. Kryten
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I think milner ans Robertson will rotate with milner playing the bigger games as it's a young squad we need his experience. Milner will probably start about 25-30 league games

      2. istanbul05
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I wouldn't say 'certainly', but definitely a strong possibility.

        I can see them both being rotated at LB for the first half of the season with Robertson hopefully establishing himself as first choice before the end of the season.

  5. Frank Koscielny
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Both Hart and Fabianski are priced at 4.5 and rotates well with Foster. Which one is the better option?

  6. 007 [RoboKlopp]
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Hi, please pick:

    1) A. Foster + Lindelof + 0,5m
    B. de Gea + Dawson

    2) A. Gayle B. Jay Rod + 0,5m

    Thx you.

  7. Tasty Jerk
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Luka apparently playing CB because of injuries 🙁

    Really hope we sign 2 more defenders before window shuts. Hopefully Jairo Ridewald and Bruno Martins Indi transfers works out

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Who is injured, then?

  8. Fantasy Gold
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    WBA have had a £10m bid rejected by Arsenal for Kieran Gibbs, according to SSN.

    Who would he replace in WBA lineup if that deal went through?

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I think Nyom done well last season. But do WBA pay 10m+ on a fullback to bench him?

      Maybe Nyom goes RB. Replacing the 50 year old.

    2. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Nyon can go to RB and Brunt can and does play 'winger'.

  9. StoichkovFPL
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Zaha nad Phillips looks like nice picks

    1. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Both are in my team as of now.

      1. StoichkovFPL
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        same here 🙂

  10. Live Lad
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    A serious question:

    (1) Alli + Kun
    (2) Sane + Kane

    1. StoichkovFPL
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      2!

    2. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      2

      1. Live Lad
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        thanks mate

    3. istanbul05
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      2

  11. Tasty Jerk
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    GOAL! Luka on pens and freekicks now 😀

    1. ihateramsey2
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      was Benteke on the field?

  12. StoichkovFPL
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Milivojevic goal (Zaha assist)

  13. Coaly
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Foster or Hart?

    1. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Would back WBA to get more CS.

      1. ihateramsey2
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        and Hart more saves?

      2. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Especially now Hart in the West Ham keeper.

    2. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Foster. For the same reason as said above by Drip Doctor.

  14. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Has there ever been such a large crop of premium attackers as this year?

    Kane, Lukaku, Jesus, Kun, Lacazette, Sanchez, Morata, Hazard... Choice is definitely there

    1. ihateramsey2
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      i miss the days of hen there was only 1 essential striker..

    2. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Yep, looks great. Looks like we may not be able to pick Sanchez though.

    3. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Ozil, Alli, Eriksen, Mane, Coutinho & Salah too.

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Yep... And KDB... it's crazy choice

  15. Tasty Jerk
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Luka took all the pens when he came in, and always see him taking free kicks in training videos for us, so is tempting.

    1. ihateramsey2
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      no chance Benteke will be on pens?

      1. Tasty Jerk
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Good question, depends if FDB saw his poor pen attempts beginning of last season or not 😀 - Luka scored all his last season, so may well stick with him i reckon.

    2. Mavric Marco
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      5.0 same price as Puncheon Hummmm....

  16. Super Frank
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    What do you think of Bego/Hart rotation?

    1. Swanremainsthesame
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Good spot, theres quite a good one there.
      Even just one of them is a fair pick for the season after Fosters first 5; together that look way better than taking a 5 or 5.5

  17. MarceloSalasManUtd97-98
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Fantasy Draft and why it will fail.

    Because it isn't the NFL.

  18. Karan14
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Would you rather have a 4.0 GK or 4.0 DEF?

    1. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Both 😆

      1. Karan14
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        That's just too weak for my bench.

        1. Netley Lucas
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Myhill covers Foster and Elliot may start anyway. Do you really need a 4.5 5th def?

    2. Oven Glover
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Goalie

  19. UptheBlues
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    just a couple of questions:

    1) Is having 3 Man Utd players over the top?

    2) What are the thoughts on PVA as an option? I know he isn't starting against West Brom now but i think he could be a good differential, especially at LWB with the new 3 at the back formation

  20. The Legend Squad
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Morata at 10m allows for a tasty team:

    Foster Elliot
    Cedric Trippier Lindelof Daniels Yedlin
    Sanchez Alli Willian Zaha T.Carrol
    Lukaku Morata Fletcher

    Would you rather have:

    A. Kane and KDB
    B. Morata and Sanchez

    1. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      A

    2. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      A. I prefer Sane to KDB fwiw.

    3. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      A

    4. GinjaWhinja
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Morata and KDB

    5. MFC86
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I've gone Morata and Sane

  21. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Between Randolph and Adrian, they made 117 saves (SOT). Joint 1st with any 4.5m GK. Hart could be a really good pick.

    1. ihateramsey2
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      are u saying west ham get lots of shots on target? more than wba?

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Concede a lot of SOT. That's what saves mean to me. I want a balance of CS potential and saves.

  22. Emiliano Sala
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Any palace vs westbrom online stream?

  23. Misunderstood Genius
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Morning lads. Rate this effort?

    Foster / Elliot
    Luiz Trippier Simpson Lowe K.Long
    KDB Alli Lanzini Gray RLC
    Kane Laca Rooney

    0 ITB

    1. Pigeon
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Why Simpson?

    2. MarceloSalasManUtd97-98
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I don't like that team at all. Not one bit. Tell you for why, Luiz and Trippier fine, but the rest? Hooligans!
      KDB, Alli, both sound, De Bruyne possibly a bit expensive considering he's likely to deliver the same results as Coutinho and may be prone to more rotation. Lanzini? Why Lanzini over Willian for the first four games at least? Gray, RLC, limited playing time.
      Kane, Solid.
      Laca is a mystery still, unproven.
      Rooney, He interests me, but not with those opening fixtures.

  24. RubberDucky
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Interesting goalscorer for CPL there. Is he a real option.

      Also great to be able to hear Pulls howling from the sideline. Great insight to his approach to how he wants WBA to play

    • UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Thoughts on Phillips? Curfently in my team but not sure why. Maybe his fixtures warrant a punt?

      1. UnitedFan
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        *currently

        1. RubberDucky
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Trying to get him in as a 5th mid need extra funds tho (don't we all)

        2. Netley Lucas
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Baggies seem better in the 1st half of the season as they race towards 40 pts, he's a good pick for the dosh.

        3. Fantasy Gold
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Fixtures and set pieces. A good enabler.

          He's in my team currently

        4. Karan14
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          He's in my team for now. Has good fixtures and on some set peices.

          If it doesn't work out I'll be looking out for Ritchie/Stanislas/Fraser/Knockaert

        5. Arn De Gothia
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          in my team, for now

      2. Dr Dream
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        WBA are still rubbish.

      3. Live Lad
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Foster
        Bertrand, Daniels, Trippier
        Sane, Willian, Coutinho, Tadic
        Kaku, Kane, Gayle

        Subs: Hart, Mee, Lascelles, Tarroll
        Please help sirs!!! Thanks.

      4. Stats Don\'t Lie
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        How's this? 433

        Bego, Hart
        Kompany, Bertie, Trippier, Cedric, Long
        KDB, Ramsey, Willian, Carroll, RLC
        Lukaku, Lacazette, Morata

        1. GinjaWhinja
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Thats a really tasty squad.

      5. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Any good draft leagues or tournaments been posted yet lads?

          1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            cheers