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  1. mixology
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    11 months, 2 days ago

    Thanks, Neale. Always interesting looking at these metrics. I always wonder what it'd be like going with an all "value" squad, with maybe, say, Rashford at 9m as the default captain and spreading the funds around. I'm not crazy about Salah/Kane at 12.5, nor Haaland at 14.

  2. Our Tiny Windows
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    11 months, 2 days ago

    Fascinating! Now I just need to understand what this tells us about a balanced team. The further towards the back of the team you go, the more value there is in cheaper players? So go cheap at the back?

    1. Our Tiny Windows
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      11 months, 2 days ago

      Something like

      Steele 4.0
      Saliba Mings Botman Beyer Bell
      Salah Martinelli Rashford Mbuemo Foden
      Haaland Gakpo 4.5

      1. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        11 months, 2 days ago

        The trouble with someone like Salah is if you're not captaining him, you're sitting a huge amount of money on player with poor value, and therefore getting a poor return for your budget.

        In exchange, you sit small sums of money on cheap value players. They give you good bang for your buck, but you're not using much buck.

        I think it's better to move the 12.5m off of a poor value player, and distribute amongst those 6.5-8.0 players with decent value. I think overall, the projected points of your team increases.

        This is over the season of course, and in the short-term, over a good set of fixtures, someone like Salah can be good value. But that aggressive method costs transfers, and if your moves are tied up elsewhere for a while you could be stuck with a value vampire.

        Whereas if you set a up a good value team for the long haul, with the expectation of getting tied up elsewhere, you can still deviate to hit fixtures as your transfers allow, but your team will be more resilient in the long-term.

        1. Mirror Man
            11 months, 2 days ago

            People go on like Haaland is the second coming of Dwight Yorke. He's good but not good enough to captain every week. Salah is also good.

            1. Silecro
              • 6 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Other 8-9mids like Saka and Rashford are more than good captain alternatives to Haaland

    2. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      11 months, 2 days ago

      If you fill your team with the best value players you'll have a huge amount of money left in the bank, and hence not score many points. So it's really those pricier players, who are still fairly decent value, that are the true gems. That way you have vast amounts of budget sat on decent value.

      Based on the article above, these would be: Trippier (0.8), Trent from GW30 onwards (0.75), Martinelli (0.69), Odegaard (0.67), Rashford (0.66), Saka (0.62), Toney (0.69), Wilson (0.64), Jesus (0.6).

      1. Our Tiny Windows
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        11 months, 2 days ago

        So high scoring players that make this table. Best of both worlds. Makes sense.

        1. gart888
          • 9 Years
          11 months, 2 days ago

          Of course this is assuming that players return similar points to last year...

      2. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        11 months, 2 days ago

        Thanks for the spoonage! Might have to go for Trippier or Trent now

      3. Mirror Man
          11 months, 2 days ago

          I like to fill my team with intelligent cookies and release them into the forest and observe them. They seem to really enjoy the uilleann pipes during these outings.

        • Better off with a pin and a…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          11 months, 2 days ago

          All true - and the captaincy is a factor too. The heavy hitters offer you the best chance each week to double a decent score.

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        11 months, 2 days ago

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        1. Sheffield Wednesday
          • 3 Years
          11 months, 2 days ago

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            • 10 Years
            11 months, 2 days ago

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            1. Sheffield Wednesday
              • 3 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

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                • 10 Years
                11 months, 2 days ago

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        2. NZREDS
          • 10 Years
          11 months, 2 days ago

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        3. The Wanton Trader
          • 6 Years
          11 months, 2 days ago

          I have an average finish of 558212 over my 12 seasons of FPL, with a top finish of 43897.

          I think that qualifies me…! 🙂

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            • 10 Years
            11 months, 2 days ago

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              • 10 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

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      5. Zenith UK
        • 7 Years
        11 months, 2 days ago

        Posted this on the previous thread but given the vibe of this thread I figured some people might enjoy my comment so here goes;

        I see everyone racing for Trent again (even though he rose - for some bizarre reason) but nobody is talking about Robertson? Hear me out... I've always rated Robbo as an FPL asset and enjoyed using him as a differential.

        Stat breakdown/comparison

        Robertson;
        Season - Pts - Mins - Mins per Point (lower is better)
        17/18 - 111 - 1940 - 17.48
        18/19 - 213 - 3216 - 15.10
        19/20 - 181 - 3111 - 17.74
        20/21 - 161 - 3384 - 21.02
        21/22 - 186 - 2537 - 13.64
        22/23 - 121 - 2579 - 21.31
        Totals; 973 - 16,767 - 17.23 av

        Trent;
        Season - Pts - Mins - Mins per Point (lower is better)
        17/18 - 83 - 1573 - 18.95
        18/19 - 185 - 2460 - 13.30
        19/20 - 210 - 3173 - 15.11
        20/21 - 160 - 3029 - 18.93
        21/22 - 208 - 2853 - 13.72
        22/23 - 156 - 2922 - 18.73
        Totals; 1002 - 16,010 - 15.98 av

        Robbo averages 162.16 points a season (across the last six) if you take out his worst and best seasons then he averages 162.25 points a season. Robbo earns (on average) a point for every ~17mins 15seconds played. Alternative view is 16,767 / 90 mins (full game) = 186 games which in turn is approx 5.23 points per game.
        Trent averages 167 points a season (across the last six) if you take out his worst and best seasons then he averages 177.25 points a season. Trent earns (on average) a point for every ~16minutes 0seconds played. Alternative view is 16,010 / 90 mins (full game) = 178 games which in turn is approx 5.63 points per game.

        Is the extra 1.5M on Trent really worth it? For an extra 15 points a season? Trent to > Robbo allows you to do 4.0 DEF > James/Chilwell/Shaw/White, as an example, who will definitely outscore a 4.0 fodder by more than 15 points across the season.

        Just curious people's thoughts on this?

        My only thoughts are, yes Trent MIGHT play higher this season, Robertson MIGHT get rotated more again (largely diminished minutes in the last two seasons, but no UCL for them this year) and I still don't think Tsimikas is a threat to him. Maybe I've missed something off? Anyways, hope you enjoyed this read.

        1. The Knights Template
          • 10 Years
          11 months, 2 days ago

          I guess my key thought is that neither of them has a beard, whereas Alisson does.

        2. Piggs Boson
          • 12 Years
          11 months, 2 days ago

          Robertson's role seemed to change drastically from GW30 onwards, making his long-term data unreliable. Their 3-box-3 shape in the attacking phase, meant Robertson was more of left-sided centre-back rather than the winger of old. Trent then inverted to complete the box midfield. This change coincided with a huge upturn in Trent's output.

          1. TheTinman
            • 8 Years
            11 months, 2 days ago

            Yes. Came to say this. Robertson role has changed and he has an able deputy in Tsimikas.

            1. Andy_Social
              • 11 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              I posted this response earlier:

              You're going on historical evidence, but I think it's more important to try to understand and anticipate how Klopp's going to set up this coming season.
              Moving Trent to inverted wingback on the right inevitably affects the rest of the defence. Other teams who do this have the fullback on the other side tuck in as a hybrid fullback/centreback; for me, that means Robbo will have to play more cautiously than he traditionally has.

              1. Zimo
                • 5 Years
                11 months, 2 days ago

                Will they play that way again though? Seemed like it was just something Klopp had to do because they didn't have the midfield for it. They've bought 2 mids and are in the market for a DM. They could easily revert back to the 4-3-3 Klopp loves.

                1. Andy_Social
                  • 11 Years
                  11 months, 2 days ago

                  We need to see how they set up in pre-season. I'd be surprised if Klopp abandons the experiment after it's proved so successful, just like I don't see Pep abandoning Stones' new role after bringing in Gvardiol.
                  I think the new midfield enhances Trent's inversion while rendering Robbo's forward surges less necessary.

                  1. Zimo
                    • 5 Years
                    11 months, 2 days ago

                    Yeah Robbo isn't viable if they stick to it. Trent also has some big competition in set pieces now though

                    1. Andy_Social
                      • 11 Years
                      11 months, 2 days ago

                      Yeh, I think Trent owners will be a bit disappointed.

        3. Mirror Man
            11 months, 2 days ago

            I was hoping this lengthy post would be a deep dive into the the marmalade/jam debacle but it isn't.

            Can you prepare one on this topic? I'd like to see a statistical breakdown. Pros and cons for each gooey substance etc.

            1. The Knights Template
              • 10 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Including which is likelier to make for a messy beard.

              1. Mirror Man
                  11 months, 2 days ago

                  A crucial statistic that nobody seems to talk about anymore possibly due to the unfortunate lack of heavy moustaches in modern society.

                  1. The Knights Template
                    • 10 Years
                    11 months, 2 days ago

                    Heavier the better!

                    1. Sheffield Wednesday
                      • 3 Years
                      11 months, 2 days ago

                      You should meet my cousin.

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                        • 10 Years
                        11 months, 2 days ago

                        It has a hair helm!

          • Slitherene
            • 6 Years
            11 months, 2 days ago

            Which combo seems better?

            A) James, Mount, Salah, Jesus
            B) TAA, Saka, Rashford, Nkunku

            1. The Knights Template
              • 10 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              B easily for me.

            2. BrockLanders
              • 9 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Yep, B

            3. WVA
              • 7 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              C) Salah Rashford Saka Nkunku

            4. Boberella
              • 7 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              B

          • CroatianHammer
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            11 months, 2 days ago

            Wouldn't be putting Perišić in your team this year; it's pretty much a done deal that he's moving to Hajduk.

            1. The Knights Template
              • 10 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Yeah I heard he’s going to … ahem …Split!

              1. The Knights Template
                • 10 Years
                11 months, 2 days ago

                Someone had to do it! The fruit was hanging too low!

          • WVA
            • 7 Years
            11 months, 2 days ago

            I'm currently on a cheaper defence, what do you think?

            Pickford
            Estupinan Botman Baldock
            Salah Rashford Saka Maddison Mbeumo
            Haaland Nkunku
            Virginia Woodrow Bell Beyer

            1. The Knights Template
              • 10 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Money ITB? What’s a Baldock and why is it in your starting team?

              1. WVA
                • 7 Years
                11 months, 2 days ago

                Attacking wing back for Sheffield United who has previous Prem experience, scoring a couple and assisting a few, decent fixtures too!

                1. The Knights Template
                  • 10 Years
                  11 months, 2 days ago

                  Your advocacy for Baldock is admirable. Arise, Sir WVA Sheriff of Sheffield!

            2. Stimps
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Awful backline

              1. WVA
                • 7 Years
                11 months, 2 days ago

                It actually works really well fixture wise and everyone has Estupinan/Botman so its only really Baldock thats different.

                You don't think that front 7 can make up for one weak defender?

                1. Zimo
                  • 5 Years
                  11 months, 2 days ago

                  I'm doing the 4.0 rotation between the 3Bs (Branthwaite over Bell. Lets see what happens preseason) as well for the 3rd slot defender. Its a fun choice. Could work out for us. This is my current draft.

                  Flekken Areola
                  Gabriel Estupinan Baldock Beyer Branthwaite
                  Salah Bruno Saka Sterling Mbuemo
                  Haaland Jesus Woodrow

                  1. Andy_Social
                    • 11 Years
                    11 months, 2 days ago

                    FOUR bottom-feeders! That won't be your GW1 squad! 😆

                    1. Zimo
                      • 5 Years
                      11 months, 2 days ago

                      I quite like it. 3Bs rotate quite well for the first 3 gameweeks. Then I'm dropping Estupinan in gw4 to a 4.5 Brentford defender and removing one of the 4.0s for Botman or some other 4.5.

                      1. Andy_Social
                        • 11 Years
                        11 months, 2 days ago

                        I'm watching Munday's 'Best 4m Defenders' at the moment; he's bigging them up but my feeling is anyone who starts a 4m defender will get NecoWilliamed.

                        1. Zimo
                          • 5 Years
                          11 months, 2 days ago

                          Well it's only for 3 gameweeks. Feels like a risk worth taking.

                          1. Andy_Social
                            • 11 Years
                            11 months, 2 days ago

                            Be wary of price rises though (or even a quick drop to 3.9). I've given myself the option of getting Botman GW4 or 5, punting on his price not rising due to the first few fixtures, but if he manages to get a clean sheet or assist, I'll probably be priced out.

                            1. Zimo
                              • 5 Years
                              11 months, 2 days ago

                              Yeah true they can get annoying. I'll probably be glued to fplstatisitics everyday 😆 I'm kinda banking on Botman dropping in price by GW4/5 as well tho considering he has like 30% ownership. Would be extremely unlucky if they somehow keep clean sheets against City, Pool, Brighton, Villa.

                              1. Andy_Social
                                • 11 Years
                                11 months, 2 days ago

                                fplstatistics is unreliable at the best of times. At the start of a season when they're clueless about tweaks to the algorithm, they're worse than useless!

                            2. WVA
                              • 7 Years
                              11 months, 2 days ago

                              My guess is Botmans price rises straight away

                              1. Andy_Social
                                • 11 Years
                                11 months, 2 days ago

                                Hmm, I'm with Zimo on this; loads of people will have him at the start, either benched or blanking. I don't think many who don't have him GW1 will get him in for a while.

                              2. Zimo
                                • 5 Years
                                11 months, 2 days ago

                                Really? The start of the season is very volatile. High ownership players that don't do well get sold en masse. Newcastle need to get lucky to not concede first 4 games.

                              3. WVA
                                • 7 Years
                                11 months, 2 days ago

                                He'll go up in price purely on ownership but i see what you're saying

                        2. Zimo
                          • 5 Years
                          11 months, 2 days ago

                          I'd start with two 4.5s but none of them have nice fixtures to start with while Estupinan and the 4.0s do.

                  2. WVA
                    • 7 Years
                    11 months, 2 days ago

                    Nice (except Sterling), Bruno Gabriel/Saliba over Rashford Botman is very tempting for me due to Botmans fixtures.

                    Flekken is the Brentford keeper if Raya goes? Doesn't look like he is at the moment....

                    1. Zimo
                      • 5 Years
                      11 months, 2 days ago

                      I'll remove Sterling if his preseason doesn't go well. He's just such an explosive pick at a cheap price. I can't help myself right now 😛 also same with Flekken. I'll switch to Pickford probably if Raya doesn't leave by the start.

          • WVA
            • 7 Years
            11 months, 2 days ago

            It covers most of the good price points.

            4.5 keeper, always the way to go

            5m defender, Saliba Gabriel Porro etc
            4.5 defender, huge amount of options
            4m defender, obviously the weak point but currently we have 3 options

            9m mid, Rash Son
            8.5m mid, Saka Odegaard Bruno Martinelli
            7.5m mid, Maddison Foden
            6.5m mid, Mbeumo Mitoma Eze

            7.5m fwd, Nkunku Gakpo Mitrovic

            1. Chockky
              • 6 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Martinelli is only 8m but a really good post

          • DavvaMC
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 3 Years
            11 months, 2 days ago

            Not sure on which combo?

            Enciso + 5.5M or 5M starting defender (means I can upgrade bench)

            Mitoma or Mbuemo + 4.5M starting defender

            Thanks

            1. The Knights Template
              • 10 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Mbeardo + 4.5m defender (take your pick).

              1. DavvaMC
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 3 Years
                11 months, 2 days ago

                Might go Tarq

                1. The Knights Template
                  • 10 Years
                  11 months, 2 days ago

                  Soldier Boy - yes indeed! Or are you talking about the Lady of the Lamptey?

                  1. DavvaMC
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 3 Years
                    11 months, 2 days ago

                    Soldier Boy 🙂 - The Lady of the Lamptey will be getting splinters again.

                    1. The Knights Template
                      • 10 Years
                      11 months, 2 days ago

                      Great move - tis a Hall of Shame move! I wish ye more lucke than others who have not yet signed up to the tourney!

          • Slitherene
            • 6 Years
            11 months, 2 days ago

            Rate my all English midfield setup?

            Pickford | Areola
            TAA Saliba Estupinian
            Rashford Saka Grealish Maddison Mbeumo
            Haaland Nkunku
            ¦ Guehi Bell Surridge

            0 ITB, but...

            1. The Knights Template
              • 10 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Great but Reliable Phil Foden over The Hairnet Kid for me.

            2. Dat Guy Welbz
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 3 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Mbuemo isn’t English mate

            3. Baps hunter
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              There is no difference between Cameroon and England? Which one belongs to which one(?)

          • Wild Card this!
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            11 months, 2 days ago

            If you had to choose, (have Saka as well) which one would it be?

            A: Jesus and Mbeumo
            B: Odegaard and Wissa

            1. Wild Card this!
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Leaning slightly towards A - due to Team structure.

            2. The Knights Template
              • 10 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              B, just.

            3. DavvaMC
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 3 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              A.

            4. WVA
              • 7 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              A until Jesus gets injured

          • boombaba
            • 11 Years
            11 months, 2 days ago

            With ziyech pulisic Hudson-odoi all on the way out
            Mudryk a bit raw
            Sterling’s minutes surely will be good?

            1. The Knights Template
              • 10 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              More minutes of agony. His price dropped because he is execrable, and some also say excretable!

          • SpaceCadet
            • 10 Years
            11 months, 2 days ago

            Better option?

            a. bruno jesus
            b. rashford mitro/ nkuku

            1. Wild Card this!
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              A

            2. The Knights Template
              • 10 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Rahford/Mitro to start the season.

            3. trick9
              • 2 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Rashford / Mitro.

            4. theplayer
              • 10 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Mitro's fixtures are horrible for the first 4 GW's

              1. The Knights Template
                • 10 Years
                11 months, 2 days ago

                He’s horrible - perfect pick!

              2. Stimps
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                11 months, 2 days ago

                His first 2 fixtures are actually decent

          • trick9
            • 2 Years
            11 months, 2 days ago

            So... what's the new game mode?

            1. The Knights Template
              • 10 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              No idea yet.

          • Arteta
            • 8 Years
            11 months, 2 days ago

            Great article. Saliba was having an amazing debut season and would probably be the second-highest-scoring defender in FPL if it weren't for that back injury. I'm sure he can replicate it this year.

            1. The Knights Template
              • 10 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              He’n in mine team, lovely fellow, the other beards are getting on really well with him.

              1. Arteta
                • 8 Years
                11 months, 2 days ago

                Alisson Raya
                James Dias Shaw Chilwell Ream
                Salah Fernandes Maddison Mbeumo Mac Allister
                Kane Wilson Mitrovic

                1. The Knights Template
                  • 10 Years
                  11 months, 2 days ago

                  Tis a very fine team indeed. I’d better look more closely at Wilson, I had him down for designer stubble.

            2. notlob legin
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              How do you rate him compared to Gabriel? I had Gabriel most of last season and he's in my current first draft

              1. Andy_Social
                • 11 Years
                11 months, 2 days ago

                I've actually got them both in my draft. My 3rd Arsenal is Saka; I suspect the other mids will be rotated more than I'd like, and I don't really rate Jesus.

              2. Arteta
                • 8 Years
                11 months, 2 days ago

                My opinion is that they are both underpriced for what they offer and represent great long-term picks. At the moment, I have Gabriel on my team just because the pre-season hasn't started yet and we're monitoring Saliba's status. I would also like to know what Arteta's plan is for Timber, and we will gain a lot of information during the preparation. I was very impressed with White's progress last season, and he deserves to stay a starter, but we'll see what happens. I will probably make the final decision an hour before the deadline, like everyone else here.

                1. Andy_Social
                  • 11 Years
                  11 months, 2 days ago

                  I have a theory about Arsenal's back line and where Timber fits in. It's become the fashion for a Back 4 to go Back 3 with a fullback inverting. With Arsenal last season, that was Zinchenko, with Tierney missing out.
                  I think what Arteta has in mind this season is to use the leftback to invert in some games, and the rightback in others, depending on the opposition and to catch oppo managers out. So in some games, White is benched for Timber and Tierney plays; in others, Timber is benched for White and Zinky starts.
                  If my hunch is right, all 4 fullbacks will be rotated, leaving Gabriel and Saliba as the reliable starters.

                2. Arteta
                  • 8 Years
                  11 months, 2 days ago

                  You're right, and I'm sure Arteta will use different systems for different parts of the games.

                  I don't remember when we had so much quality in defense. I wrote down the options the other day (https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2023/07/05/fpl-2023-24-player-prices-revealed-live-wednesday-updates/?hc_page=4&hc_sort_by=comment_date#hc_comment_25921893), but I left out the players who are most likely leaving (Holding, Trusty, Tavares, and Cedric).

                  1. Gross Blank Point
                    • 3 Years
                    11 months, 2 days ago

                    How do you think Frimpong will fit in if they get him?
                    Watched him since his Celtic days, great player, would be an FPL points magnet.

                    1. Arteta
                      • 8 Years
                      11 months, 2 days ago

                      Frimpong could fill in at RB, RWB, and RW from what I know. If Tierney leaves, we may invest in another versatile full-back and then count on Tomiyasu and Kiwior to step up at the left-back position if needed.

            3. Zimo
              • 5 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Gabriel always seems to get like an xG of 5 though. Does Saliba have the same attacking threat?

              1. Arteta
                • 8 Years
                11 months, 2 days ago

                Not yet.

              2. Andy_Social
                • 11 Years
                11 months, 2 days ago

                Points trumps xG - Saliba was scoring better than Gabriel before his injury.

                1. Zimo
                  • 5 Years
                  11 months, 2 days ago

                  Sure but if he's not getting the xG he's less likely to get the points year on year. Surely u know that. And its not like Gabriel doesn't score. 5 goals two years ago. 3 goals this year.

                  1. Andy_Social
                    • 11 Years
                    11 months, 2 days ago

                    Yeh I know that. I also know Saliba is overlooked because his injury makes his last season stats look modest. Like I said, I'm on both; I wouldn't like to separate them, although Saliba would offer a differential to those who care about such things.

            4. WVA
              • 7 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              And Arsenal would have won the league 😉

              1. Arteta
                • 8 Years
                11 months, 2 days ago

                I don't stress about ifs and buts anymore. Whatever happened in the past belongs in the past.

          • The Knights Template
            • 10 Years
            11 months, 2 days ago

            Plenty of time for Haaland to grow a beard, even a goatee before start of the campaign, plenty of time.

          • Solly The Seagull
            • 6 Years
            11 months, 2 days ago

            What you would change here? 0.0itb

            Pickford
            Gabriel Shaw Estu
            Salah Saka Bruno Mbeumo Enciso
            Haaland Nkunku

            Areola Mings Baldock Archer

            Thanks!

            1. The Knights Template
              • 10 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              This is a sit and be content team. The very real danger here is that you listen to others, overthink things, tinker/scratch the insects off your face like Ranieri on an ice-bender, then forget that you had this team by the start of the campaign. So I say to to you - hoooolldddddd!

            2. Wild Card this!
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              For me, Nkunku is wait and see...not sold on Enciso tbh and I've heard/read somewhere that Mings might lose his spot (perhaps Henry?).

          • Miami Monkey
            • 10 Years
            11 months, 2 days ago

            Where to cut 0.5 to afford this?

            Pickford / Areola
            TAA / Gabriel / Estu / 4.0 / 4.0
            Son / Saka / Bruno / Foden / Mitoma
            Haaland / Nkunku / 4.5

            1. Wild Card this!
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Son?

            2. Zimo
              • 5 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Son or Foden

            3. The Knights Template
              • 10 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Does Gabriel to Saliba do it?

              1. WVA
                • 7 Years
                11 months, 2 days ago

                Lol

              2. WVA
                • 7 Years
                11 months, 2 days ago

                Last season it would have!

            4. Valar(Keith)
              • 14 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Foden to mbuemo and bump a 4.0 to a 4.5

          • DavvaMC
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 3 Years
            11 months, 2 days ago

            Who do you think is he pick of the bunch for 4.5M defenders? Most will go with Botman, but not sure I see any 4.5M defenders who offer more attacking qualities.

            1. HarryFPL
              • 1 Year
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Rico Henry

            2. keefy59
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Pinnock 3 goals last season (decent early fixtures)
              Botman plays Liv , Man City & Brighton in g/weeks 1-4

            3. WVA
              • 7 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Botman stands out, Brentford boys (Pinnock Henry), Villa have a couple, Guehi is good, I also like Baldock but he's only 4!

            4. The Wanton Trader
              • 6 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Henry / Tete rotation combo is really good.

          • HarryFPL
            • 1 Year
            11 months, 2 days ago

            Is Saka worth the extra 0.5 more than Martinelli?

            1. Eyes of Blue
              • 1 Year
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Yes. Less rotation threat and he’s on penalties.

              1. WVA
                • 7 Years
                11 months, 2 days ago

                Martinelli wont get rotated much at all, Saka is shocking at penalties lol

            2. keefy59
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Yes
              Martinelli subbed off a few times last season for Trossard

          • DANCING_ROSE
            • 2 Years
            11 months, 2 days ago

            Nunez or Gakpo?. Or should i wait till after preseason. Cheers!

            1. WVA
              • 7 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Yeah wait and see how pre season goes for them and Nkunku.

              1. DANCING_ROSE
                • 2 Years
                11 months, 2 days ago

                Thanks lad!

            2. Andy_Social
              • 11 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Same position, same price. Doesn't matter which one you put in your draft at this stage.

              1. DANCING_ROSE
                • 2 Years
                11 months, 2 days ago

                Will wait till preseason for them , thanks lad!

          • HarryFPL
            • 1 Year
            11 months, 2 days ago

            Thoughts on this team:
            Pickford
            Trent Estupinian Gabriel James
            Salah Saka Enciso Mbeumo
            Haaland Jesus
            /Areola, Bell, 4.5, 4.5

            1. The Wanton Trader
              • 6 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Very good Trent Salex Haanold team.

            2. WVA
              • 7 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Bruno over Trent
              No need to start with James IMO, he's an absolute nightmare and Chelsea have been woeful

            3. The Wanton Trader
              • 6 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Probably take Shaw over James though

            4. HarryFPL
              • 1 Year
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Is this better?:
              Pickford
              Trent Estu Gabriel
              Salah Martinelli Maddison Mitoma Mbeumo
              Haaland Ferguson
              /Areola, Bell, Beyer, 4.5

          • WVA
            • 7 Years
            11 months, 2 days ago

            Henry or Pinnock and why?

            1. The Wanton Trader
              • 6 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Henry.

              Very attacking and with Collins coming in, is Pinnock safe?

              If Brentford play 3 centre backs, it makes Henry even more enticing.

              1. WVA
                • 7 Years
                11 months, 2 days ago

                Nice, thanks

            2. Andy_Social
              • 11 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Wait and see how or where Collins gets integrated into the first team.

            3. Zimo
              • 5 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Probably wait till GW3 anyways before getting one. U can see if Collins or Pinnock is first choice in their back 4. Because their set piece threat is way higher than Henry's open play threat.

          • HarryFPL
            • 1 Year
            11 months, 2 days ago

            A) Shaw + Enciso + Saka + Jesus
            B) Martinelli + Mitoma + Maddison + Ferguson

          • LangerznMash
            • 7 Years
            11 months, 2 days ago

            A) Trent in a 451
            B) Mitro in a 352

            1. WVA
              • 7 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              Do you have a decent sub with A?

              1. LangerznMash
                • 7 Years
                11 months, 2 days ago

                Not really, just one £4.5m playing defender.

                1. WVA
                  • 7 Years
                  11 months, 2 days ago

                  A 4.5 defender is decent, A it is

            2. The Wanton Trader
              • 6 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              I’ve been playing around with A, but still on B.

              Mitro may become one of the other 7.5s depending on pre season.

          • T.Henry14
            • 10 Years
            11 months, 2 days ago

            First draft

            Ramsdale
            TAA, Mings, Henry
            Rashford, Saka, Son, Foden
            Haaland, Darwin, Ferguson

            (4.0 - Lamptey, J.McAtee, Beyer)

          • LangerznMash
            • 7 Years
            11 months, 2 days ago

            Things I am certain off:
            1) Haaland
            2) Large % of my budget going in to a 5 man midfield
            3) 3 x Arsenal
            4) Botman

            1. Andy_Social
              • 11 Years
              11 months, 2 days ago

              First 3 - definitely.
              4) Do you want him for the first 4 matches?

              1. LangerznMash
                • 7 Years
                11 months, 2 days ago

                Probably not but if they get CS against Villa in GW1 then good chance he goes up to £4.6m

                1. Andy_Social
                  • 11 Years
                  11 months, 2 days ago

                  Ahead of games against City and Liverpool? Nah.

                2. WVA
                  • 7 Years
                  11 months, 2 days ago

                  Even without a clean sheet against Villa (which is highly unlikely) he will go up in price but thats no reason to pick him

                  1. Zimo
                    • 5 Years
                    11 months, 2 days ago

                    I don't understand the logic. Why would he go up

                    1. Andy_Social
                      • 11 Years
                      11 months, 2 days ago

                      Ha ha, I was going to post "I fail to grasp your logic, but you do you" in response to WVA and move on!

                      1. WVA
                        • 7 Years
                        11 months, 2 days ago

                        Lets just say not all price changes are done logically

                    2. WVA
                      • 7 Years
                      11 months, 2 days ago

                      You'll see!

              2. WVA
                • 7 Years
                11 months, 2 days ago

                This is why he will rocket in price, everyone is going to have him even though he has awful fixtures

          • shirtless
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            11 months, 2 days ago

            Logging into the Utd roster and seeing no De Gea seems strange!

            Woken up this morning 'thinking why on earth have I got Salah and Brownhill when I can have Rashford and Odegaard?' So have now gone No-Salah.

          • SpaceCadet
            • 10 Years
            11 months, 2 days ago

            Better option?

            A. Mbuemo Jesus
            B. Odegaard Wissa