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Is the ‘new manager bounce’ a real thing?

A well-established term, many Fantasy Premier League (FPL) managers believe the ‘new manager bounce’ is usually a certainty.

It led to predictions that a Manchester United team temporarily under Ruud van Nistelrooy’s control would beat Chelsea before Ruben Amorim similarly guides them to a strong run of initial results.

Suddenly, names barely considered before like Alejandro Garnacho (£6.4m), Bruno Fernandes (£8.4m), Diogo Dalot (£5.2m), Rasmus Hojlund (£6.9m) and even Marcus Rashford (£6.9m) became a possibility.

Here, we look at past data to see whether the immediate upturn is either a myth or evidence-based. I have analysed managerial changes from the past five seasons, acknowledging those clubs that transitioned to caretaker managers before a long-term appointment.

FIRST MATCH OF NEW MANAGERS

OVERALL

  • Total managerial changes: 65
  • Wins in 1st league game: 20 from 65 (30.77%)
  • Draws in 1st league game: 21 from 65 (32.31%)
  • Losses in 1st league game: 24 from 65 (36.92%)
  • Scored: 80 (1.23 per game)
  • Conceded: 95 (1.46 per game)

It’s interesting that the loss rate is higher than the win rate, suggesting that new managers don’t necessarily get that bounce.

However, there’s a possibility that interim caretaker managers skew the overall result, as they aren’t the real, desired appointment. So let’s now separate these from permanent replacements.

GROUP 1: CARETAKER MANAGERS ONLY

  • Total managerial changes: 21
  • Wins in 1st league game: 3 from 21 (14.29%)
  • Draws in 1st league game: 10 from 21 (47.62%)
  • Losses in 1st league game: 8 from 21 (38.10%)
  • Scored: 23 (1.10 per game)
  • Conceded: 36 (1.71 per game)

GROUP 2: PERMANENT MANAGERS ONLY

  • Total managerial changes: 44
  • Wins in 1st league game: 17 from 44 (38.64%)
  • Draws in 1st league game: 11 from 44 (25.00%)
  • Losses in 1st league game: 16 from 44 (36.36%)
  • Scored: 57 (1.30 per game)
  • Conceded: 59 (1.34 per game)

This suggests that caretaker managers like van Nistelrooy are more about stability (high percentage of draws) rather than aggressive changes that bring victories. Whereas a permanent change (like Amorim) brings a notably higher win rate and a more positive impact on immediate performance.

Yet the latter win rate is still not as high as expected. Maybe it’s because we included all teams, regardless of context. For example, sides fighting relegation are less likely to receive this boost.

Therefore, the next data excludes teams that ended the season with relegation, like Leeds United and Leicester City. While it seems like Manchester United are bad, they’re certainly not in danger of dropping.

GROUP 3: EXCLUDING RELEGATED TEAMS

  • Total managerial changes: 48
  • Wins in 1st league game: 18 from 48 (37.50%)
  • Draws in 1st league game: 17 from 48 (35.42%)
  • Losses in 1st league game: 13 from 48 (27.08%)
  • Scored: 68 (1.42 per game)
  • Conceded: 56 (1.17 per game)

These teams score more and concede fewer, indicating that having a stronger squad may naturally bring more immediate success when compared to weaker ones. The rate of defeats is down, too.

LIMITATIONS OF THIS SHORT STUDY

Ruben Amorim – Scout Report 1

Firstly, we’ve only explored the first league result, rather than a multi-game period. Some managers might need a few weeks to stamp their mark.

Another asterisk is that we didn’t take into account the difficulty of that first match, or whether it was home or away. Man United will travel to newly-promoted Ipswich Town.

Furthermore, some managers joined mid-season, while summer appointments receive a full pre-season of preparation. Amorim doesn’t have that luxury.

So, in conclusion, there is some slight truth to the ‘new manager bounce’ theory but it’s more effective with permanent moves and stronger teams. Theoretically, Amorim and Man United fit into this category. But statistics suggest new managers aren’t significantly more likely to win than draw or lose that first game.



FPL_Runpharm <p>Pharmacist from Malaysia, loves running marathons and trails. No fancy rankings (yet) in past years, but working hard to improve as FPL manager. Die-hard Newcastle United fan since 95/96, been to St James Park several times.</p> Follow them on Twitter

39 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Skonto Rigga
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 7 Years
    11 days, 22 hours ago

    Thanks for this, Runpharm!

    Interesting that recent United managers have, largely, hit the ground running. Rangnick only lost (excluding penalty shootouts) in one of his first 17 matches in charge. Solskjaer started with eight successive victories. Even ten Hag, after losing the first two, was defeated in only one of his next 12 league games (and even that was to City).

    1. FPL_Runpharm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      10 days, 18 hours ago

      You are welcome, always happy to have some nice feedback! Yea I kinda noticed it too, with United managers mostly getting great starts, I am expecting the same from Amorim too

  2. Stevie B
    • 14 Years
    11 days, 22 hours ago

    What to do with this mess?

    Fabianski, Muric
    Pedro Porro, Ait Nouri, Digne, Keane, Collins
    Palmer, Mbeumo, Bruno Fernandes, Luis Diaz, Rogers
    Haaland, Vardy, Solanke

    Thanks!

    1. Lecky Legs FC
      • 8 Years
      11 days, 21 hours ago

      Solanke > Jackson/Isak at the least hold on everything else

    2. XX SMICER XX
      • 6 Years
      11 days, 21 hours ago

      How many FT? MITB?

      1. Stevie B
        • 14 Years
        11 days, 21 hours ago

        1 free transfer and 0.2 in the bank. Thanks!

  3. TochanMama
    • 12 Years
    11 days, 21 hours ago

    Haaland or Salah captain?

    1. Stevie B
      • 14 Years
      11 days, 21 hours ago

      I think Salah.

    2. keefy59
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      11 days, 21 hours ago

      Obviously Salah but good to see you've still kept Haaland as an option

    3. XX SMICER XX
      • 6 Years
      11 days, 21 hours ago

      Haaland

  4. Stevie B
    • 14 Years
    11 days, 21 hours ago

    Luis Diaz and Solanke -> Saka and Pedro for a hit?

    Thanks!

    1. keefy59
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      11 days, 21 hours ago

      No just do Solanke to Pedro this week
      Diaz v Southampton away this week (if he starts)

      1. Carrovian
          11 days, 21 hours ago

          Seconded

      2. XX SMICER XX
        • 6 Years
        11 days, 21 hours ago

        Gakpo starts this GW

    2. Carrovian
        11 days, 21 hours ago

        Garnacho and Foden to Bruno and Palmer for -4? Yay or nay?

        1. keefy59
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          11 days, 21 hours ago

          Take the hit it could be a huge return
          As long as you have Salah as captain

        2. Stevie B
          • 14 Years
          11 days, 21 hours ago

          I would do. Yes!

        3. XX SMICER XX
          • 6 Years
          11 days, 21 hours ago

          Big upgrades, yes from me

        4. boroie
          • 6 Years
          11 days, 21 hours ago

          Yes

      • Stevie B
        • 14 Years
        11 days, 21 hours ago

        Jackson or Pedro as Solanke replacement?

        Thank you!

        1. keefy59
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          11 days, 21 hours ago

          Pedro as long as you have Palmer

        2. XX SMICER XX
          • 6 Years
          11 days, 21 hours ago

          Jackson for me

      • keefy59
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        11 days, 21 hours ago

        Reposted
        Any Hammers fans out there ?
        Is Fab nailed or will Areola regain his place ?
        Other fans any opinions ?

        1. Stevie B
          • 14 Years
          11 days, 21 hours ago

          I think that he is nailed till he makes a mistake.

          1. XX SMICER XX
            • 6 Years
            11 days, 21 hours ago

            This

      • XX SMICER XX
        • 6 Years
        11 days, 21 hours ago

        A. Raul to Jackson (bench Son)
        B. Son to Saka (bench Raul)
        C. Both (bench Mbuemo/Wissa/Rogers)

        Current front 8:
        Salah Son Palmer Mbuemo Rogers
        Cunha Wissa Raul

        1. boroie
          • 6 Years
          11 days, 21 hours ago

          Roll the transfer. Front 8 looks great

        2. Stevie B
          • 14 Years
          11 days, 21 hours ago

          I would save the transfer.

      • boroie
        • 6 Years
        11 days, 21 hours ago

        Worth a -4?

        TAA & Solanke -> Gabriel & Isak

        1. Stevie B
          • 14 Years
          11 days, 21 hours ago

          I would not choose Gabriel. Only 9 points in the last 6 games. Arsenal cannot get many clean sheets.

          Solanke -> Isak is fine for me.

          1. boroie
            • 6 Years
            11 days, 21 hours ago

            Is there a better defender than Gabriel with the current fixture lists?

            1. Stevie B
              • 14 Years
              11 days, 21 hours ago

              The fixtures for Villa and Newcastle are not bad. Hall or Digne maybe.

          2. boroie
            • 6 Years
            11 days, 21 hours ago

            Can’t do Solanke -> Isak without making money by selling TAA

      • Rodgers's CHARACTER
        • 9 Years
        11 days, 21 hours ago

        Best Trent Replacment?
        A) Hall
        B) Konate
        C) Digne

        1. Stevie B
          • 14 Years
          11 days, 21 hours ago

          I think Konate. Liverpool gets more clean sheets that Newcastle or Villa.

      • Stevie B
        • 14 Years
        11 days, 21 hours ago

        Is this good to go and the correct bench? Or do Luis Diaz -> Saka for a hit?

        Fabianski (Muric)
        Digne, Collins, Ait Nouri (Keane) (Pedro Porro)
        Palmer, Mbeumo, Bruno Fernandes, Rogers, Luiz Dias
        Haaland (C), Pedro (Vardy)

        Thanks!

      • Casual Player
        • 4 Years
        11 days, 13 hours ago

        Interesting

        Probably need those results to compare to, say, the previous 5 games results. Given poor teams are more likely to sack the manager, 31% wins vs 37% losses could still be way above expectations.

      • Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        8 days, 8 hours ago

        "So, in conclusion, there is some slight truth to the ‘new manager bounce’ theory but it’s more effective with permanent moves and stronger teams."

        Where is the evidence of the 'slight truth'? You can't say something is 'more effective' unless you've demonstrated an effect. According to your data, the only effects are that (i) stronger teams do better than weaker teams (well, um, of course!), and possibly that (ii) permanent managers do better than caretaker managers. Nothing here about 'new manager bounce'.

        It is an interesting topic, though, and it would be cool to see more investigation into this.

      • Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        8 days, 8 hours ago

        Shame I never read this before getting Bruno instead of Saka last week!