Fantasy League

The FFS Fantasy League auction as it happened

On Saturday, I was privileged to be invited to the inaugural Fantasy Football Scout auction, organised by Fantasy League (FL).

I was further honoured to be asked to participate as well as report on the auction; this was done at the last minute, clearly as a ploy on the part of the Scout guys to ensure that I did no prep in advance whatsoever!

We were joined by, and had as auctioneer, Andrew Wainstein, the godfather of Fantasy Football and the founder of Fantasy League. Andrew’s auction-style was a little different to what I’m used to, with very long pauses before the ‘gone’, but this certainly added to the tension and meant there were a lot of last-second spoiling bids, just when people thought they could write the player’s name on their teamsheet!

We all had £100m to spend on 15 players so we got down to business…

I had written previously about being wary of rookies. What I’d never previously experienced, and had no idea how to manage, was a situation of facing with seven newbies all in the same auction.

They were FFS editor David Munday, deputy editor Neale Rigg, community manager Geoff Dance, moderator Ted / Rotation, community writer Top Marx, IT whizz Mat and Scout’s business development director Chris James.

Would prices be completely wild? Would I spend the next couple of hours permanently shaking my head? Would I come away punch-drunk and bewildered at how I’d been hustled into having a team full of bit-part players and Fantasy dross? The all-important facts are in the tables below, setting out the players each of us picked, and at what price:

The eagle-eyed amongst you will notice that not all the prices paid add up to the budget of £100m; in fact, only David spend his entire budget and whilst Mat (£96m), Will (£99m), Chris (£99m), Neale (£98m) and Geoff (£93m) came close, Ted and I were a lot more frugal, spending £87m and £81m respectively. Whilst I will talk more about what happens post-auction in a subsequent article, what this means is that I’ll have my pick of any players signed between now and the transfer window closing given that no-one will be able to outbid me, with Ted effectively getting second pick.

The good news for everyone is that, in my opinion, there’s no single stand-out squad. Most spread their money around which is the safest strategy, particularly in your first auction, but were also prepared to go big where necessary to secure the big names.

Bear in mind that these were no Fantasy Footballing slouches; I was pitting myself, unprepared, against some of the finest FPL minds around and guys who really know their football and footballers.

What they proved is that auction experience is ultimately no substitute for footballing know-how. Plus, an auction isn’t rocket science, so it really doesn’t take long to get into the swing of it.

It also didn’t take too long for the big guns to come out either. After the initial foreplay of Deulofeu, Maguire, Zaha, Sane, Maddison and Wood, Sir Mohammed of Salah was thrown out by David.

Initially there were gasps of disbelief as the bidding went up and up, but when the ‘gavel’ (the trophy, to be more accurate) came down, and he was Chris’ signing for £30m, my own view is that Chris had paid a good amount as my expectation would have been a final price of between £35m and £40m.

Straight after Salah, Harry Kane put in a not-unexpected appearance and, with a greater sense of acceptable prices, he went for a predictable £32m.

I appreciate that for a lot of you, looking at these prices will leave you scratching your heads. How on earth can Vardy cost £2m more than Aguero and only £1m less than Salah? How can KDB be almost 50% more expensive than Mane? How did Patricio cost more than Ederson, Lloris or Pickford?

This is the beauty of the auction at play. Prices are both dependent upon the quality of the player AND the point in the auction at which they are raised, both in terms of how much money has already been spent and what price reference points already exist.

For example, David raised Raheem Sterling at £5m after he had spent a big portion of his budget, so as soon as the bidding went above £8m he promptly left the table to get his lunch, leaving the others to fight to the death. He eventually ended up in Neale’s squad for £30m.

Patricio was the first goalkeeper raised (he was only the 11th player to come up) and there were another 19 picks before Pickford came up. By then, people were already being cagey with their money as a lot had gone on a lot of big guns.

I was lucky that Aguero didn’t put in an appearance until the 40th nomination, hence my getting him for a price I viewed as decent value for money (VFM), and the same was true for Firmino who was 43rd.

Conversely, Salah, Kane and Vardy were seventh, eighth and tenth respectively, hence the marginally higher prices. I’m not saying they were overpriced but, relative to their FPL prices, Vardy, Kane, KDB, Aubameyang, Sterling and Salah had the highest margins, followed by Aguero and Lacazette (reflecting the latter’s 41st position).

I shall not try to draw you all a graph but, basically, after the initial nerves have settled with the first few players, prices go crazy, then there’s a big lull, and then you can get some nutty prices towards the end as two managers with plenty of money battle for players which will complete their squad.

This happened with both Kepa and Monreal, both of whom I wanted but where Neale and Geoff needed those positions filled and where, tight git that I am, I wasn’t prepared to spend over the odds even if failing to get either player left me in a bit of a quandary.

Anyway, having had 24 hours to digest the respective squads, I decided that a bit of marking the homework was in order and so I’ve graded each manger’s defence, midfield and strikers. This is just my opinion and no doubt there will be quite a bit of disagreement, which I’m happy to debate in the comments section below.

Mat

  • Defence: A
  • Midfield: B
  • Strikers: B+

Mat has one of the finest defences in the league which I expect will be the bedrock of his points. Ederson, Azpilacueta and Van Dijk need no comment whatsoever, and Doherty was the darling of FPL last season, with a more than respectable 36 points in Fantasy League (making him the sixth highest-scoring fullback). Vertonghen’s minutes will depend upon formation and whether he is preferred over Sanchez in the Spurs backline but he could prove great value at just 3m.

Mane was surely one of the biggest bargains of the auction, helped by the fact that he was the 57th player raised. The rest of the midfield aren’t points machines (Ritchie is a midfielder in Fantasy League) but they’re also not players I’d be unhappy to own so I think Mat will do just fine with them.

We need to see what the potential arrival of Pepe will do to both Aubameyang and Lacazette’s positions and minutes but the latter could have been a snip at only two-thirds of the price of the former. Will Wilson and Jota replicate their heroics of last season? If they do, then Mat will be a very happy man.

Top Marx

  • Defence: B-
  • Midfield: A/C
  • Strikers: B+

I’m sure that if the auction were re-run, Will’s first action would be to wait and see with his goalkeeper. I’m not saying that Patricio is disastrous, but clearly Will would rather have had Ederson AND 1m extra in the bank.

From a defensive perspective, if Kolasinac can be as good defending his goal as he was his car, and with equal ability to go on the counterattack, then as a freebie Will be laughing all season. There has been plenty written about the danger of the left-back position at Man City so whilst Zinchenko is the team’s lucky mascot, surely he’ll share the spot with Angelino and, when fit, Mendy.

At centre-back, short of a Van Dijk injury, Will effectively has one Liverpool defender in Gomez and Matip, so may feel the pain of being the equivalent of a defender light for the season.

I’ve given two separate marks for midfield as Will will be praying to the footballing gods daily over the next two weeks that neither Pogba nor Eriksen are sold overseas.

With both of them staying, Will has a small but perfectly-formed midfield with Son, Pogba and Eriksen being three of the best, and Redmond could well chip in with his share of points if he continues where he left off last season.

In terms of strike-force, what Will lacks in terms of big-hitters, he more than makes up for in quantity. Rashford, King, Haller and Zaha should all start the majority of the time and any one of them could score a hatful of points.

Will, Ted and I will each be praying that our respective Chelsea strikers are the favoured one this season, and at least Batshuayi only cost one-fifth of what Ted and I paid for Abraham and Giroud. Deeney wouldn’t be my first choice of Watford strikers but he’s on penalties and would make an excellent bouncer partnership alongside Kolasinac…

Ted

  • Defence: B-
  • Midfield: B
  • Strikers: B+

Ted’s defence is a bit of a mixed bag. I like Pickford and Alderweireld, but I’m not sold on Van Aanholt and Jonny simply because I don’t see either Palace or Wolves consistently getting clean sheets, despite the attacking potential of both players.

I suspect that Duffy will either find himself permanently benched or shipped out after the first time Brighton concede a cricket score, and Lovren might be the fourth choice centreback at Liverpool now and so will be a pretty rare starter in the Premier League.

One saving grace for Ted, however, is his having the second-highest post-auction budget so he’ll be on the lookout for a top centre-back signing.

In midfield, if Pulisic steps into Hazard’s empty shoes then £7m will prove an absolute steal. Sigurdsson and Fraser are points in the bag, and Perez could prove another undervalued player from our auction. With Pereyra and Mahrez, both for free, Ted has two players capable of turning it on big time, particularly the latter.

Ted’s three As up front (Aubameyang, Abraham and Adams) are harder to quantify. We all know that Aubameyang is one of the finest goalscorers in the league, but barely a week goes by without someone questioning whether he’s certain to start, or whether he’ll be planted on the left or right wing with Lacazette through the centre.

Adams and Abraham both performed wonders in the Championship last season but that doesn’t always translate into good Premier League performances so the jury is out on both of them, particularly the latter given that Lampard has three choices to fill his single striker berth, assuming he sticks to one up top.

Chris

  • Defence: A+
  • Midfield: A
  • Strikers: B+

Of all the defences acquired on Saturday, Chris’s is probably the one I’d most like to have myself. No, you’re right, it doesn’t have a Liverpool defender, but otherwise, Chris has some of the finest full-backs and centrebacks going in Digne, AWB, Alonso, Laporte and Luiz, particularly if he’s bought the Alonso of a couple of seasons ago.

The midfield has Salah. I should probably leave it there but Maddison, Gross and Milivojevic should be solid understudies too, particularly the latter if Zaha stays at Palace and VAR awards them a couple of penalties per game.

Having the big outlay on Salah and defence inevitably meant that the strikers couldn’t be on a par with the rest of the team. However, both Jimenez and Deulofeu are great picks, Ings could be the focal point at Southampton, and Origi is often the go-to man when a goal is needed at Anfield. My thoughts on Calvert-Lewin aren’t publishable though…

Neale

  • Defence: B+
  • Midfield: A+
  • Strikers: C

Neale picked up a curate’s egg of a defence. Kepa and Robertson are nailed on and top quality. Lindelof could be a first-choice centreback at Manchester United, even if Maguire comes in although two new centre-back signings could see him relegated to the bench.

The cautionary notes are around Zouma, Pereira and O’Connell, particularly the latter. Zouma back to Everton would be great for Neale but, if he stays at Chelsea, will he get much game time? Pereira was a great FPL player and got decent FL points but Leicester wouldn’t be one of my first choices for defenders, especially given Rodgers’s attacking sensibilities.

All I will say about O’Connell is that he’s a Sheffield United defender and no matter how good a player he may be, he could still suffer as a Fantasy League asset if the Blades struggle to replicate the defensive strengths of their time in the Championship.

Neale has a formidable midfield, led by Sterling and De Bruyne, and ably assisted by Anderson. Ozil, for free, could be one of the bargains of the auction if he rediscovers his form, and Neale himself wrote recently about both Jota (Villa) and Trossard, with probably the latter having the greater potential after his form last season in Belgium.

Where Neale will struggle is up front. For starters, having only two strikers is not a strategy I would adopt myself. Although Wood is a proven goalscorer, Joelinton is a completely unknown quantity at a club everyone is touting to struggle after losing Benitez.

Also, Burnley and Newcastle hardly set the pulse racing. Overall, a lack of firepower in the striking department may be Neale’s undoing in his quest for the title but expect to see him in the reckoning.

David

  • Defence: A-
  • Midfield: B
  • Strikers: B+

It’s very difficult to assess David’s defence because it’s such a mixed bag. In TAA and Coleman, he has two of the finest full-backs in the land. Lloris is a great goalie and if Stones secures a spot in the City defence, David will be laughing.

Where I’m less convinced is with Boly, Tarkowski, Chilwell and Walker-Peters. The last of that group could be great every other week if Spurs fail to replace Trippier but we all know Poch’s love of rotating full-backs. After that, I’m not in love with Wolves, Burnley and Leicester defenders; all can have their day, and probably won’t ship tonnes of goals, but I wouldn’t expect any of them to score particularly highly in Fantasy League.

On paper, the quartet of Sane, Richarlison, Martial and James could be an amazing midfield. The problem is, Richarlison aside, that the chances of all four playing week in, week out, is slim to none.

Although Fantasy League is far less about having certain starters than FPL, and one of my previous articles talked up Leroy Sane as a great example of an impact sub, I feel that David will still need more points coming from midfield than he is likely to get most of the time.

There’s also still the risk that Sane could be moving to Germany, which would be highly unfortunate and leave a gaping hole in David’s team.

Because of the overload in defence, David had relatively little room for strikers and I feel that might be his undoing. I love Jamie Vardy and I’m sure he will be fantastic for David, but Benteke and Barnes don’t really get my juices flowing.

Geoff

  • Defence: A
  • Midfield: B
  • Strikers: A-

Geoff has probably the joint-strongest defence in the league, particularly if Maguire moves to a Manchester United. A line-up of first-choice players from Liverpool, Manchester City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United needs no further commentary.

Midfield is undoubtedly Geoff’s weakest area. Bernardo Silva is a Pep favourite but that doesn’t necessarily translate into big points; Geoff will be crossing everything that this is his season to start banging in the goals and racking up his fair share of assists.

Moura and Pedro, on their day, are great players and capable of doing Geoff proud, but there’s no certainty of starts, particularly for the former. Iwobi is another yet to show his true potential and Trezeguet is a completely unknown quantity.

The injured Hudson-Odoi could eventually be a bargain but it’s a packed Chelsea midfield and it’s far from clear how Lampard will have them lining up.

Up-front, Geoff paid big for the assured quality of Harry Kane. After that, he spent a further one-fifth of his budget on the main striker from each of the three promoted clubs.

Whilst history tends to show that one of the promoted teams has a prolific striker, it’s rare that it’s all three of them so Geoff has gone out on a limb and will hoping that a new precedent is set this season.

Clouseau

Why no grading of my own team? Principally, it’s because it isn’t that easy to be objective about your own picks. I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t happy with my strikeforce, despite the fact that Aguero AND Jesus basically amount to a single City striker.

I believe that Firmino should do better from a fantasy perspective this season than he did last time out. If Giroud is the preferred striker at Chelsea, my 5m will be a snip, and Glenn Murray is as Glenn Murray does.

The midfield is solid even if it isn’t earth-shattering. Vrancic could easily make way for the biggest signing of the remaining transfer window. Fornals is a punt but, like Vrancic, was a free punt. And in Alli, Tielemans and Willian, I’m reasonably happy.

On the defensive front, my failure to get Kepa meant that I had no choice but to double down on Manchester United by getting De Gea, having picked up Shaw early on.

Similarly, missing out on Monreal meant that Maitland-Niles was literally the only fullback left on the list who I could both pick up (I couldn’t go for Mendy or Angelino due to already having Aguero and Jesus) and who I felt was reasonably likely to play, at least until Bellerin returns from injury.

I’ve always been loathe to spend money on my defence, often to my detriment, but I suppose that two Man Utd, one Spurs, one Everton and one Arsenal for 4m isn’t something about which I should complain.

Final Thoughts

I wrote recently ‘Beware the Rookie’, mainly because in not knowing what they’re doing, they can mess up your own plans. I was facing seven total rookies on Saturday and the plans I devised in the five minutes notice I got that I’d be participating got completely messed up, not because the guys were clueless, but because they were really good!

All the strategies I set out in my previous articles were used to good effect and I dread to think how good they will all be next season with the experience of an auction and a full season under their belts.

All I can say is it was enormous fun and I’m very much looking forward to a closely-fought season with plenty of competition and banter; I also look forward to you, the readers, joining in with the latter as I bring you regular updates as the season progresses.

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Clouseau Serious (for which you can read \'stressy\') fantasy football fan. Have been playing the auction-based version with its unique squads (fantasyleague.com) for over 20 years but more recently branched out into FPL. Follow me on Twitter @FFSClouseau

1,089 Comments Post a Comment
  1. SADIO SANÉ
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    why are people picking Salah over Sterling? genuine question

    1. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Most people are picking both

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        okay, why are people that are not picking both picking Salah over Sterling? 😀

    2. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Good question. I think it’s because there are alternatives to Sterling for cheaper but not for Salah

    3. nisag17
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      First two matches better plus doesn't get rotated plus on penalties this season when Milner doesn't play. A lot of them including me are getting both.

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        you think Sterling is getting rotated in the first 5 matches? I guess it's possible..

        1. Springbank
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          dont think so.rotation will come around europe and/or double game weeks

    4. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Yeh people, come on! Why are you choosing the highest=scoring FPL player for the last 2 years running?

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        what you getting shitty for?

      2. Cok3y5murf
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        That fact is only relevant in FPL Draft. We would pick Sterling over Salah if Salah's opening fixtures were hard.

    5. Springbank
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      most are picking both! On here anyway.

      Penalty maybe. Less rotation around CL games ( to be verified)

      I currently have Aguero over Sterling

    6. Oooof
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Easier to downgrade Sterling to KDB and feel happy about it than vice versa with Salah and the other Liverpool attacking options

    7. EgyptianKing
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Most drafts tend to include both, I would say

    8. HamezMace
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      He's got more FPL points than Sterling for the last two years.
      And probably has better opening fixtures.

    9. chilli con kone
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I will have both but Salah has better fixtures on paper initially and will have much higher captaincy percentages early on

    10. Cok3y5murf
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Because I like Pool's first 5 fixtures better and because Mane may not start GW1.

    11. Pillson
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Just came on to ask something similar. Salah has been a constant in my drafts so far, however I've just looked more closely at the opening 6ish rounds of fixtures and I see Sterling outscoring him.

      Especially given Sterlings rest, and Liverpool front 3's busy summer

      1. Pillson
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        I think the Norwich fixture is blinding people. I cant see a front 3 of Salah Origi and Shaq/other blowing them away, but may be wrong

    12. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Hes a better player and a better FPL asset?

    13. MosF94
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I think he'll score more points - I think he underperformed slightly last year, and will return to scoring 280+ across the season

  2. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    If Heaton goes to Villa, Henderson and Heaton rotate through the whole season so they don’t face a SINGLE top six side. Decent.

    1. Oooof
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Cheers mate - hadn’t spotted that.

    2. Tsparkes10
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Would want Hendo against the top 6 😉 tons of save points.

      1. The 5% Team
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        there is actual truth in this of course. Rotation leads to less save points (but hopefully more clean sheets of course)...usually you get it wrong, because FPL 🙂

    3. chilli con kone
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I hate rotating keepers to the bone...but even my curiosity has piqued at this

      1. Maddi Son
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        This is exactly how I feel about this. Almost wish I didn't see it lol

    4. Budweiser
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Henderson has horrible fixtures. May as well just play Heaton the first 10 weeks

    5. The Ejiptian King
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Not rotating again after how frustrating it was last season.

      1. brownc46
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        I stopped rotating 2 seasons ago. I would make the wrong decision like 80% of the time and it was making me misrable

  3. Boris Bodega
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Help! 1m itb, and I want either a 4th starting defender (replacing Gibson, so £5m to spend) or a 5th starting midfielder (replacing Dendoncker, so £5.5m to spend)

    Currently Team -
    Heaton - (Button)
    Robertson - Digne - Zinchenko - GIBSON - (Lundstram)
    Sterling - Fraser - Zaha - Perez - DENDONCKER
    Auba - Kane - (Greenwood)

    1. Tsparkes10
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      5.5m mid I'd say. Either Hughes, Robinson, ceballos or Mcginn

      1. Boris Bodega
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks I'll have a look at those

    2. chilli con kone
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I quite like a Hendo punt at 5.5 due to being given more of an attacking license

    3. Botman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      McGinn

    4. A19
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I'd have a look at Schlupp also

  4. cescpistols111
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Best two 4.5m defenders to bring in?

    1. MattyW
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Diop, Guilbert for me

  5. Now I'm Panicking
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    This article 😆

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Incredible self indulgence

  6. Jebiga
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Is Matip nailed ?

    1. Oooof
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      -ish

      Most likely to lose place to Gomez along with TAA

    2. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Sounds painful

        1. Now I'm Panicking
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          2 of us thought it was a funny line at least 😉

          1. Wild Rover
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Not an upvote between us 😀

            1. Boris Bodega
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              There you go 😉

    3. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I feel confident Gomez will see more action than him.

  7. Jebiga
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    The best mids and attackers for 6 mil ?
    tnx

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Trossard
      Wesley
      Adams

    2. CostaCoffee
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Wesley, Robinson

      Barkley/Mount could be cheeky picks too, both been impressive in pre season but neither are nailed.

      1. CostaCoffee
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Che Adams too

    3. Gentle_Turks
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Jota? Grealish?

  8. Oooof
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Tinkering...

    Pope / Button

    Walker / VVD / Wan Bissaka / Gibson (Ev) / Lundstram

    Salah / De Bruyne / Perez / McNeil / Robinson

    Kane / Haller / Wood

    1. Werner Bremen
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Don't like Haller, you need sam Cherries in there

      1. Werner Bremen
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Some*

  9. MattyW
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    prefer .. a) Bernardo Silva or b) De Bruyne

    1. Goodfeathers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      B all day

    2. chilli con kone
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      B but depends where you would spend the silva cash

    3. Chazz69
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      A

  10. CAPTAIN_WALES
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Just seen Fraser is odds on to move to Arsenal with the bookies... would he be nailed there and in everyone's team?

    1. Andrew
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Can't see that with Pepe coming in, we need a CB now if we are also getting Tierney.

    2. Kimmich
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Won’t happen. And no wouldn’t be nailed with Pepe/Auba/Laca

    3. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      No, Pepe looks much more likely, sound like they will announce it later today.

      1. Kimmich
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        There’s already pictures of him in the Arsenal kit. Literally just missing the announcement video.

    4. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Really! Hmmm.

    5. CostaCoffee
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Don’t listen to bookies, listen to reliable reporters

      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        I'd believe a bookie over a reporter any day

        1. CostaCoffee
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Bookies base their prices off what people are putting money on and articles from bad sources like Sky

        2. Brosstan
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Spot on.

    6. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Bookies always offer mega-cautious odds on transfers so they don't get stung (as they are one-way bets, i.e. you can't bet on him not going to Arsenal). Didn't something similar happen once when Sunderland appointed a manager and the chairman's grandson whacked a load of money at really long odds on it?

  11. Andrew
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts on Matip at £5.5m, sure to play if fit right?

    1. Licky
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I think it'll be Gomez personally.

      1. HamezMace
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Matip has started alongside VvD, Robertson and TAA in the last two friendlies (with Gomez on the bench) - I think this is the first choice back four.

        Klopp praised Matip highly towards the end of last season as well.

    2. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Wouldn’t be a long term pick personally but he is a baps monster when he plays

    3. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      even if we guess right on VVD's partner and therefore get a cheap route into the clean sheets it still feels like a waste of a liverpool spot. longer term picks with more attacking threat (obviously if you then extend it to mane/salah/firmino etc) that wont have you sweating an hour before kickoff every week

    4. OFord
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Definitely not nailed, competing with Gomez. A lot safer options at 5.5 like Coleman, AWB, Zinchenko while Mendy is out

    5. BAGGIE BOY
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I think it's a good cheap way into Liverpool defence. Think he is first choice over Gomez ... at the moment.

  12. CFC1990
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Pope or Heaton looks to be great options.

    Who would you prefer now Heaton is going to Villa?

    1. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Heaton to start the season with as they have better fixtures.

      Also Pope managing a groin issue so might not start the first couple of gameweeks let's see. They have 1 pre season game left so could be back for that.

  13. Ask Yourself
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Is that Everton Gibson likely to start the season over mina?

    1. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      surely keane and mina, with gibson given cameos and cup games for experience for now

      1. Ask Yourself
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Okay i’ll ease the excitement

    2. chilli con kone
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      As long as Mina doesn’t get a ban for his betting regulations breach then no Mina plays

    3. Oooof
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      He’s on my cheapo radar for sure

  14. Rotation's Alter Ego
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    New Community Article

    https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2019/07/31/in-the-foreign-press-the-premier-leagues-new-arrivals-from-europe/

    ThePuntMaster has been taking a look at what press on the continent have been saying about the new arrivals to the PL from Europe. Excellent article, strongly recommend having a read!

  15. pingissimus
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Just double checked Son’s returns at the end of last season. Even worse than I remembered. You can still discount the sending off and missed match and he comes in at under 3 points a game over a ten game stretch. That’s as bad and probably worse than anything Pogba managed.

    Lots seem to be pre planning his transfer in. Surely he’s a wait and see.

    1. KLOPPS AND ROBBERS... the s…
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      He had a good patch with Kane injured from what I can remember.
      He suffers when Kane is on the pitch

      1. avfc82
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        There was a spell in the middle of last season when they were unplayable together. Remember the Everton match, or Bournemouth or Cardiff?

    2. Miniboss
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Urgh don't remind me, he and Sane burned me so bad last season with their bad streaks.

      Can't wait to see whom will I be too stubborn to transfer out this season.

    3. avfc82
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Hmm, that coincided with a general dip in Spurs form tho. They lost a hell of a lot of games during that run, but when they did win he picked up attacking returns most of the time. Depends how you see them doing this season. If they're performing well and scoring goals, he'll be involved.

    4. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Yeah I agree definitely not pre planning a transfer for him GW3.

      Son is also a very predictable player in terms of FPL. As soon as his stats pick up he shows form and then doesn't stop scoring for next 10-12 gameweeks. Happy to wait and see for that.

    5. Dr. Mantis Toboggan
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Agreed

  16. KLOPPS AND ROBBERS... the s…
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Dybala price prediction?

    1. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      9-9.5

    2. BAGGIE BOY
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Yeah 9 mil I reckon ... to much imo

  17. Andrew
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts on KWP at £5m

    1. cheeky moses
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I think Foyth is first choice RB when available

    2. HamezMace
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Foyth has been preferred in preseason. While he's suspended for the first few weeks, don't count on KWP as a long term option.

    3. avfc82
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Transfer waiting to happen, IMO.

  18. CostaCoffee
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    What would you prefer?

    A) Ederson, Taylor, Dunk (play 1 def each week)

    B) Pope, Heaton, Walker (play 1 gk obviously)

    1. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      B

      But I'd opt for a set & forget and maybe change that after first wildcard.

      1. CostaCoffee
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Hate the idea of going into gameweeks knowing that the keeper has no chance at a clean sheet in some games. Even if it means save points

  19. cheeky moses
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Ederson
    TAA, Robbo, Laporte, Digne, Coleman
    Salah, Sterling, Fraser
    Wood, Murray

    Solid unit innit?

    1. CostaCoffee
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Triple double up on defense doesn’t excite me one bit

  20. Miniboss
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Slid into template. Anything worth tinkering here?

    Ryan
    TAA Robbo Digne Zinchenko
    Salah Sterling FAnderson Perez
    Wilson Pukki

    Button Targett Dendocker Greenwood

  21. The Mighty Whites
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts?

    Ryan - Button

    Robertson - VVD - Laporte - Digne - Diop

    Salah - Sterling - Sigurdsson - Perez - Dendoncker

    Jota - King - Greenwood

    1. Oooof
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Looks fairly standard on here

    2. chilli con kone
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Tem

      plate

      So it’s good

  22. Cert
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    What do you guys think is the best striking pair out of: deloufeu, Wilson, king and Jimenez. I have money for all of them 🙂

    Thanks

    1. Oooof
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Wood?

      1. Oooof
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Read fail, erm Wilson and Jimenez

      2. Now I'm Panicking
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        He does seem excited, yes.

        1. Oooof
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          😀

        2. Majestic Chanka
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Sometimes I really feel like you live in a Carry On film Jarvish

    2. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Wilson and Jiminez by a very large country mile

      1. Cert
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Ok this is my team now:
        Ryan
        TAA AWB Laporte Coleman
        Sterling Salah Perez Fraser
        Jimenez Wilson

        Subs: Button Dendoncker Greenwood Lundstram

        Thoughts?

      2. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Patently underestimating the excitement of Wood imo.

    3. chilli con kone
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Is probably put my all my eggs in the BOU basket with their initial fixtures and offensive set up

      1. Cert
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Ok thanks guys

  23. BAGGIE BOY
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    First RMT. I have 2 teams one without Kane, one without

    Pickford (button)
    Robbo - VVD- Digne- Laporte (ludstrom)
    Salah - sterling - d Silva- perez (dendonker)
    King - jota (greenwood)

    OR ...

    Ryan (button)
    VVD - Anderwereld- Digne- zinchenko (ludstrom)
    Salah - sterling - perez ( dendonker, hayden)
    King - kane - jota

    Opinions??

    1. Oooof
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      B

    2. chilli con kone
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I’m an avid Kane enthusiast but I wouldn’t want him if that was the team I had to have as well

      Alder and Zinc not wise with no bench I’d look at that

      1. BAGGIE BOY
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Suggestions at 5.5 replacements for them? I think there pretty nailed in a strong side

    3. Salah'd n Sauce
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      One without kane and one also without?
      I prefer A of these tbh - The proper Without.

  24. limbu21
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Ederson, Zinchenko, Perez
    OR
    Ryan, Laporte, Maddison?

    1. chilli con kone
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      B with Perez instead of Maddy is the best

      Save the 0.5

    2. The Ejiptian King
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      4.5, Laporte, Perez

    3. Chazz69
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      B

  25. robt
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Settled on this so far. Could anyone suggest any possible upgrades or swaps??

    Schmeichel
    Robertson, Digne, Laporte, Van Dijk
    Shelvey, Siggy, Salah, Fraser
    Aguero, King

    Ryan, Dendoncker, Kelly, Greenwood

    1. Rasping Drive
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I can’t remember seeing Shelvey in anyone’s lineup ever. Kudos for that.

      1. robt
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        First time for everything! He will play start every game this season (until inevitable red card) in a 3 man mid so good chance of assists and set piece points.

    2. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Good. Would prefer KDB in for Shelvey and someone else for Aguero and perma cap Salah.

      1. robt
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Fair one. Just really hooked on Aguero as he smashed it for me last year! Scared to take out a big hitting forward.

      2. robt
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        I think Aguero - Jimi and then Shelvey to KDB is possible though!

  26. Daniel Exeter
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Ederson
    Azpi, TAA, VVD, AWB, Laporte
    Salah, Sterling, Perez, 5m, 4.5
    6.5, 6.5, 5.0

    That back line is what dream are made of

    1. Oooof
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Does look god back there

      1. Oooof
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        *good

    2. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Good. I would move 1.5m more to midfield.

      1. Daniel Exeter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Easily doable, apart from Perez tho who are the stand out 6.5 mids?

    3. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Worthy but ineffably dull 😉

      Had something very similar early on. I just got bored of the prospect of switching 6.5s.

  27. Oooof
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Dwight McNeil of Burnley?

    Not seen him in any teams?

    1. The Ejiptian King
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Their fixtures are decent from GW5 iirc, could be a good pick then, was great last season when he came into the team.

      1. Oooof
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        So it’s wait and see

    2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      As the other poster said it is a bit early to get him yet he is more of gw5 player.
      I can the see the logic though is likely to improve as a player - is .5 cheaper than the Burnley main strikers.
      Personally I like Westwood as a pick form the Burnley squad ,5 cheaper than McNeil and he is always getting sneaky bonus points or in contention for them.
      I remember this from when I followed the live points fantasy football fix updates.
      So in short Westwood is the fella to get I think best value 5.5 ? - pops up with a goal now and again or an assist.

  28. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Who do you think plays in the hole for Arsenal this season? Ozil

    1. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Sounds dirty.

    2. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I'd love to think it will be Ceballos, he was great there in the U21 Euro's but I think he will take the Ramsey role, got high hopes for him at 5.5m.

      Yeah, Ozil.

      1. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Agree about Ceballos. What about Micky? Doesn't Emery dislike Ozil?

        1. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Apparently Ozil has been looking revitalised in pre season

    3. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Ozil most likely, then Mkhitaryan or Ceballos depending on the fixture.

      1. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        thanks

    4. avfc82
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I think Ceballos. Torreira and Xhaka deeper.

      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        We live in hope

  29. Cert
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Moura or Fraser?

    1. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Fraser

    2. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      fraser

    3. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Moura

    4. Unliklinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Both

      1. Cert
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        I can’t get both bc this is my team:
        Ryan
        TAA AWB Laporte Coleman
        Perez Sterling Salah Fraser/moura
        Jimenez Wilson

        Subs: Button Dendoncker Greenwood Lundstram

        1. Unliklinho
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Fair enough - depends how quickly you plan to make transfers then - short term: Moura longer term: Fraser I'd say.

          1. Cert
            • 4 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            I do like the idea that many people have of getting in son after his suspension is over but how would I do that?

    5. BAGGIE BOY
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Moura

  30. SMOOTH
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    A. Vardy Coleman (in 4-4-2) - 48.88 in RMT over 6 weeks
    B. Deulofeo B.Silva (in 3-4-3) - 48.37 in RMT over 6 weeks

    1. Oooof
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Is this a maths test? 🙂

      1. SMOOTH
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        just showing they are pretty comparable, wondering what peoples thoughts are on potential