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The Community Round Up

The search for value, in particular among defenders, was a central focus of this week’s discussions, which also covered the prospects of La Liga stars in the Premier League and marked the premature retirement of one the Fantasy Football’s most successful Spaniards.

Our community writers also focus on player pricing, top tips for success in Fantasy Premier League’s draft game as well as ownership trends.

Bonus magnets in the Sky Sports game are among the topics covered in our Members table round-up and we finish off with a look at the latest community tournaments available.

The Community Articles

With more than 700,000 now signed up to the Fantasy Premier League, the ownership trends have been fluctuating markedly since its launch. Milvus’ community article on ownership trends takes a key look at the significant early movement.

One group of players that are seeing significant activity are premium defenders, including wing-backs that offer potential returns at both ends. Whether this group of players offer better value than mid-price midfielders is the subject of FPL Virgin’s debut community article.

Positively priced punts are the focus of The Boose’s latest piece, as he considers those who offer considerable bang for their buck from FPL’s player list.

Elsewhere, Spreadsheet has turned to his abacus to assess whether misfiring attackers one season are able to dramatically improve their goal conversion rate over their next campaign. This follows on from Prokoptas’ article earlier this month on the Plexiglas Principle, which seeks to find out if underperforming players can strengthen their returns over time.

To help those playing FPL’s draft game, our resident expert Pav A Nice Day dropped by to offer his guidance on constructing the perfect player list for the forthcoming draft nights.

Don’t forget, if you’ve got some analysis, scout reports or features brewing, be sure to visit our community section to submit your article.

The Hottest Topics

The community articles section’s focus on rearguard options spilled out into our Hot Topics with That Posh Bloke casting his monocled eye over some spiffing chaps in defence.

Bournemouth defenders have piqued the interest of Miguel Sanchez, who canvassed views on whether centre back Nathan Ake or full back Charlie Daniels are the best options from the Cherries backline. While Lucy made a triumphant return to offer guidance on the best Southampton defenders to invest in, as part of her look at Saints assets.

Newcastle and Swansea’s kindly priced defenders are on Teddy’s radar, after his research found that the two sides rotate strongly for those who track the fixtures and are looking to save funds in defence.

There was further consideration of defensive rotation in our discussion of the best goalkeeper strategy.

Pre-season friendlies offer Fantasy managers the perfect opportunity to gather vital clues on whether their picks will be sure starters and offer returns.

However, so far the 19.6% of FPL managers who own Paul Pogba been left disappointed by his performances, according to our discussion on lessons learned from the summer fixtures played so far.

The dream of a more attacking role for the Frenchman is still yet to be realised.

In contrast, Pogba’s team-mate Henrikh Mkhitaryan has impressed, with a goal and an assist midweek during the Red Devil’s US tour. We wondered why, given his advanced role and strong summer form, he is still only in 4.3% of FPL squads.

Crystal Palace kicked off their summer preparations with a 2-0 loss to Liverpool to dent interest in their assets. But with a strong opening set of fixtures Andy8wsm ponders whether their newly appointed captain Jason Puncheon may at last turn his enticing underlying statistics into Fantasy points. As followers of the Scoutcast last season will know, that is an issue I may be reluctant to revisit for a second successive campaign.

At least the 5.0 priced Eagles midfielder is cheap, even if he doesn’t offer good value based on his history. This difference between a player’s price and their real value is an issue that Deulofail addresses in his latest discussion.

The price tag of Chelsea’s incoming new recruit, Alvaro Morata, was eagerly awaited this week. But, as Ownership Tactic asks, can the Real Madrid striker do it on a cold windy night in Stoke? He added to this discussion with a roll call of those who have made a successful transition from La Liga to the Premier League, as well as those who failed to make the grade.

If Morata, who is also the subject of this discussion by Prokoptas,  gets off to a good start, team plans may need to change to accommodate him. This is where a flexible FPL friend can help out, says our Hot Topic on players that can easily be jettisoned to make way for an early season bandwagon.

One such bandwagon in FPL’s past is Michu, who scored an incredible 18 Premier League goals for Swansea in the 2012/13 season and this week sadly announced his retirement through injury. Wild Rover was among those who dropped by to pay their respects to the Spaniard.

Bargain hunters were once again out in full force this week as they rummaged through the player list in search of gems. Aaron Ramsey, Arsenal’s 7.0 valued midfielder who has scored once and assisted another goal in pre-season, is among those garnering interest. But Drip Doctor warns that patience may be needed with the Welshman, who he doubts will be able to produce frequent attacking points.

Chelsea’s development squad is proving an attractive source of budget midfielders. New Watford signing Nathan Chalaboah and Reuben Loftus Cheek – who is on loan at Crystal Palace – have attracted the attention of Scotty B, based on the promise of more game time at their new clubs. Both are priced at 4.5 but AceKn1ght urges Fantasy managers to make sure they also consider the potential of midfielders priced at 5.0.

Southampton are proving another prime route for those in search of value, with the south coast outfit figuring prominently in Pukka-Geoff’s discussion on teams to double, or even triple up, on.

Meanwhile, value from third strikers is the subject of Pele Alli’s latest Hot Topic, with Triggerlips adding to the debate by asking whether Newcastle forward Dwight Gayle deserves to be in our frontlines.

Sales shoppers are steering clear of Liverpool this season with their stars of 2016/17, including Philippe Coutinho, suffering value hikes. Given that the Reds look set to rotate around Champions League games, we asked whether their assets may be best avoided. The no-Liverpool player strategy of last year’s FPL winner and Everton fan Ben Crabtree certainly offers a powerful case for adopting this potentially risky tactic.

123thro is looking to go further than Ben by basing his team around avoiding players from last year’s top six sides and asked for your tips of other assets to consider.

Finally, Athletico Timbo asked the community to dust off their crystal balls and predict who will be next season’s Fantasy hits and misses.

To view all our discussions please visit our Hot Topics page.

The Members Tables

Spreadsheet has created a table entitled, ‘should have scored more’, in support of his community article on misfiring attackers’ potential for improvement.

For those playing Sky Fantasy Football Disable has made a table dedicated to players who have dominated the game’s bonus point allocation.

Elsewhere, Mynjdusta has constructed two tables looking at the best defender prospects and goalkeepers with impressive underlying statistics.

If you’re a member and are yet to get to grips with the custom statistics tables, you can view this movie for an explanation of how they work. Also, remember to tag them so that people can find the tables with ease.

The Community Tournaments

PDM is looking for those who have finished at least one FPL season within the top 1,000 to join his Top 1K Any Season league (21265-6670), and those with at least one top 10,000 finish are invited to join Red Lightning’s Top 10,000 Any Season league. (757-400).

Finally, a reminder that Torres Magic’s Last Man Standing contest (44937-13340) is still open for entries.

If you are running a community tournament and would like the latest scores included in future Community Round-ups, please email us summary of the current leaders and a link to your league, spreadsheet or head to head competition, at jonty@fantasyfootballscout.co.uk.

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2,626 Comments Post a Comment
  1. bigbudgie
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Why isn't Hernandez added yet?

    7.0 please

  2. Kitman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Will a 6.5 million defender get more points than a 6.5 million defender?

    Azpilicuta vs Redmond?
    Milner vs Tadic?

    1. RichRover
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      6.5 defender

    2. mcrayeps
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Azpi
      Tadic

      Depends imo

  3. Football Heaven
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    King Carroll or zaha fletcher (0.5 itb)

    Carroll on bench or fletcher on bench depending on which option

  4. 007 [RoboKlopp]
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Hi, please pick (sorry repost)

    1) A. Foster + Lindelof + 0,5m
    B. de Gea + Dawson

    2) A. Gayle B. Jay Rod + 0,5m

    Thx you.

    1. Odikostar
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      A
      A

  5. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Is it worth investing in Alonso?

    A.KDB and Lindelof or
    B Sane and Alonso

    With B gives (and it assumes Austin plays himself into team)

    Foster (Myhill)
    Trippier Cedric Alonso (Daniels Dunk)
    Sane Willian Zaha Ramsay (Carroll)
    Lukaku Austin Kane

    1. Odikostar
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      A

  6. Iceball
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Was changing priority on draft watchlist but when I go back and come again it didnt change. Do I have to save it or something?

  7. David Davros
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    How long will the draft take with 6 players?

    1. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Set it at 30 sec's, get everyone online, crack on... 45 min's max, probably half an hour, if that.

  8. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Team to face @ChelseaFC: Ospina, Maitland-Niles, Mertesacker, Monreal, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Ramsey, Xhaka, Bramall, Ozil, Iwobi, Lacazette https://t.co/3tDpLRf0s6

    1. FPLtfs
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      4-2-3-1?

      1. Wilshere Knowledge
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        No, Brammall is a left back.

        Maitland-Niles CB a bit iffy though.

        1. FPLtfs
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Ah, that explains it. Who will be Lwb? Kolasinac or Monreal?

          1. Wilshere Knowledge
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Likely Kolasinac.

            Monreal is very good defensively, and can't cross for toffee. 😀

      2. Arteta
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        3-4-2-1

        1. FPLtfs
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Ah, that explains it. Who will be Lwb? Kolasinac or Monreal?

          1. Arteta
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Kolasinac imo.

            1. FPLtfs
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 10 months ago

              That's what I'm thinking. Have him in atm. Think he's worth the extra .5 over Monreal. Never seen him play though XD

    2. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Surprised Ox is starting.

  9. Tomerick
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Bottomed. sorry for the repost.

    I want Morata but I am set on Lacazette and Lukaku. Is it worth downgrading pogba and a couple of defenders to make Morata the third striker?

    Foster/Fabianski
    Lindelof/Trippier/Cedric/Ake/Suttner
    Eriksen/Sane/Pogba/Lanzini/Carroll
    Lacazette/Lukaku/Rodriguez

    1. David Davros
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Hard this year with the premium strikers. I think there is an element of having to accept going without someone. I'm on Kane or Lacazette at the moment

      Would also love Lukaku and Morata and Jesus

      1. Tomerick
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Yeah I think that's true. I think it just guts the squad too much to try and get a third and I am really against picking non players.

    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I think so... Phillips, Zaha, Ramsey, Willian all offer more than Pogba imo, AND they're actually cheaper. You're also very exposed to a Delle Alli/Harry Kane Spurs link up... Those two are going to score a lot of goals this year imo, like 50 league goals between them.

      1. Tomerick
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I will consider downgrading pogba then but to get Morata it would have to be a 5.5/6 option then gut the defence.

        I will keep an eye on Man U pre season because I have a good feeling about them this time but they do usually let you down fpl wise.

        1. Tomerick
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          As for Alli/Kane my gut just says Eriksen but no doubt I will have Alli and or Kane in my team as well at some point in the season.

  10. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Morata worth a punt then fpr GW1? At 10.0 it's either him or Jesus for the third forward slot alongside KaneKaku for me...

    Morata GW1 with 0.5 to go to Jesus GW2 if things don't go to plan?

  11. WE GO FOR IT
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Took part in a draft yesterday with 15(!) players. Ended up with this.

    Foster | Grant(will swap for Myhill)
    Clyne | Darmian | Evans | Olsson | Ward
    Sanchez | Mkhi | Klassen | Antonio | Brunt
    King | Murray | Perez

    1. Numb
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Oh dear

      1. Bun Rab
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Yes dear?

    2. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Not bad, with 15 players.

      1. Numb
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Good luck when Sanchez goes to PSG and you have to replace him with a free agent! Loads of Sanchez owners will lose interest then. That's why they should have done the drafts at the end of the transfer window.

        1. WE GO FOR IT
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          I'm hoping he stays/moves to a PL club. If he goes to PSG, I'm finished.

          1. Numb
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Exactly, you and many others.

    3. Ronny Hotdog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I did one, ended up with 3 Chelsea and 2 Man Utd defenders. Think if you got late on in a large league, doubling or tripling up on heavy hitting defenders is a viable tactic

      1. WE GO FOR IT
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I wanted to get the attackers first. Picking a mid as my first pick was wrong I feel. Have to get a striker. By the time I got to pick the striker in round 2, all the good ones were gone.

    4. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      😆

  12. SADIO SANÉ
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Nyom is a knobhead, he was being an idiot in the last friendly too.

    1. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Pullis teams being thugs? I've never heard such an accusation!

  13. Optic1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    I'm already contemplating Foster > Hart.

  14. FPL Blow-In
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    That Chelsea line up will be pretty much what they start with at gw1 with Morata in there.

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Bakayoko?

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Rudiger?

      2. Bun Rab
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Not sure he will be fit for start of season.

      3. FPL Blow-In
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Bakayoko from gw1 you reckon? Yet to join the squad right? Very possible though

  15. FPL Blow-In
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Courtois, Azpilicueta, Luiz, Cahill, Moses, Kante, Fabregas, Alonso, Willian, Batshuayi, Pedro.

    1. GinjaWhinja
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Agreed. Only other question is if Moses might get replaced or if Fabregas will hold down his place every game with Bakayoko as a more rigid option.

  16. jesus jesus
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    With no William - hattrick hero ???

    1. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      ? WilliaN

  17. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Morata Jesus Lacazette a suprisingly affordable front three.

    Just needs a massive sofa to hide behind for Utd & Spurs games lol

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Can't have em all. Think a lot of players may just go with ownership approach.

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Yeah, it's such a risk to start without KaneKaku with those ownerships

  18. yLLacs
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Is Firmino a good pick, he's in my team currently but is he nailed and will he play up top??

    1. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      My concern is the 2 big CL qualifiers between 1&2 & 2&3... this is a £40m 'fixture'...

      1. mcrayeps
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        that wont make klopp change whole team and giveaway their PL

        1. Netley Lucas
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          But it makes some rotation a distinct possibility.

  19. Super Silva Haze
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Team to face @ChelseaFC: Ospina, Maitland-Niles, Mertesacker, Monreal, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Ramsey, Xhaka, Bramall, Ozil, Iwobi, Lacazette https://t.co/3tDpLRf0s6

  20. Arteta
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Courtois; Azpilicueta, David Luiz, Cahill (c); Moses, Kante, Fabregas, Alonso; Willian, Batshuayi, Pedro.

    The strongest possible XI they have at the moment. Conte is taking this friendly match pretty seriously 😳

    1. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      1st pre season game, fitness the main issue.

  21. @fpl_phenom
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Iv had to rejig because of Morata, actually looks pretty good I think?..... 433

    Foster
    Lindelof Cedric Trippier Bellerin
    Sane Fabregas Ramsey
    Lukaku Morata Kane

    Myhill RLC Carroll Hunemeier

    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Nice but Fab could be a doubt, likewise sane

      1. @fpl_phenom
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Agree on Sane but not Fabregas while hazard to out surely? Maybe Willian is mire nailed on?

        Who would you play instead of Sane?

  22. Super Silva Haze
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Chelsea team v Arsenal: Courtois; Azpilicueta, David Luiz, Cahill (c); Moses, Kante, Fabregas, Alonso; Willian, Batshuayi, Pedro.
    #CFCTour https://t.co/w6vFFcJ6W9

  23. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    BREAKING::PSG will make a £35m bid for Arsenal striker Alexis Sanchez next week, according to Sky sources. https://t.co/BJK8r4M977

    Lol

    1. Camp No No
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      "Sky sources" means they have read other newspapers reporting this day or two ago.

    2. Arteta
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      They can fück off.

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        They'll get him if they pay up.

        1. Wilshere Knowledge
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Sell Sanchez to PSG to fund Lemar from Monaco.

          Can't see Monaco liking the idea of that one. 😆

        2. Arteta
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          £35m + Italian magician Verratti and we have a deal.

          1. Camp No No
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            😆

            You are valuing them the wrong way. Both at the very highest top, Verratti probably higher in his position, Verratti is young and improving, and has a f*ckbillion years of contract; Sanchez probably peaked last season and has 1 year of contract.

            Sanchez would be used as a dealmaker for Verratti, not the other way round.

            1. Arteta
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 10 months ago

              It was just a bad joke haha
              Whoever will want to sign Verratti will have to break the bank. Brilliant little player.

      2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        You said fück

        1. Arteta
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          It's allowed!

    3. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      It would make things a lot easier if he did go to PSG.

      1. Camp No No
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I'm kinda opposed to this. It would significantly reduce the value of Arsenal players in FPL.

    4. Corona Macallan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      At a price less than what city defenders were bought for

    5. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

  24. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    BREAKING:Manchester City agree fee of more than £51m with Monaco for defender Benjamin Mendy, according to Sky sources. https://t.co/2Rfd9kr7mm

    Lol

    1. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Tbf, it's better than spending £15m on Moreno...

      ...or £8m on Andres Santons for that matter! 😆

    2. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      😎

    3. bigbudgie
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Can he defend though?

  25. Lady Yaya
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    What's Ward-Prowse's game time looking like this season? Starter or not?

    1. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Hoping he's RW of the 3 in a 4-2-3-1...

  26. jesus jesus
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    I'm bad lol

    1. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Bad Jesus

  27. Football Heaven
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    RMT

    Foster (Elliot)
    Ake kompany trippier (Rangel, hunemeier)
    KDB (v) RLC zaha Pogba alli
    Kane (c) Jesus (fletcher)

    Considering fletcher and zaha to king and Carroll. 0.5 itb but saving for further gws. Also Pogba or mkhitaryan

  28. mcrayeps
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    A) Redmond + Firmino (Cover 1 Liverpool player)
    B) Ramsey + Defoe (Cover 1 Arsenal player)

  29. bigbudgie
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    A) KDB and Ramsey
    B) Alli and Sane

    Have Kane.

    1. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I think B as a pair will score more overall.

      1. bigbudgie
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Thanks for the reply BR. I have the same gut feeling I think

  30. Ógie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    £35m offer for Sanchez from PSG must be a joke.

    1. bigbudgie
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      35m is like starting form 0 these days. So they've offered 0 pounds.

    2. Camp No No
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Not necessarily. Last year of contract, not prolonging. He'd be moving for free next year. And if Arsenal wants a replacement, that'll likely cost them money. Lemar seems kinda expensive.