Scout Notes

Defensive injuries at Liverpool and Man United could impact FPL squads

Pre-season injuries for Manchester United and Liverpool may cause something of a defensive re-shuffle at both clubs and Fantasy Premier League managers should stay on top of the developments.

We’ve looked at the possible implications of Joel Matip and Antonio Valencia missing out on the start of the new FPL campaign in our latest Scout Notes, and will continue to track their fitness this summer.

Elsewhere, we learned a little more about who might start in Everton’s back four and Rui Patricio made an impact in his first outing for Wolves.

We’ve got all the goals, assists and Fantasy talking points from Sunday’s round of friendlies.

PORTO 1-0 EVERTON

  • Goals: None
  • Assist: None

Fantasy managers were handed some more information on Marco Silva’s defensive plans in their defeat to Porto on Sunday. With Everton hosting Southampton, Huddersfield and West Ham in the first six Gameweeks, as well as travelling to Wolves and Bournemouth, there is some interest in whether the Toffees can offer some defensive value for an early-season rotation.

Against Porto, Silva named the same back-five that lined up against Bury, having deployed a largely second-string side the previous day in a defeat to Lille. Not surprisingly, Leighton Baines (£5.5m) and Seamus Coleman (£5.5m) were stationed on the flanks of the defence in front of Maarten Stekelenburg (£4.0m), who made his fourth start in a row with Jordan Pickford (£5.0m) still away on World Cup leave. Phil Jagielka was the £4.5m man who slotted in beside Michael Keane (£5.0m), for his second start of the season. If he continues to be deployed in the back four, the former Sheffield United man may become the budget way into Everton’s defence, although he still faces competition from Ashley Williams (£4.5m), Mason Holgate (£4.5m) and Cuco Martina (£4.5m) – later pre-season matches will tell us more.

Cenk Tosun (£7.0m) made his third start of pre-season suggesting again that he will be first-choice when Everton face Wolves in Gameweek 1, although he has some work to do to convince Fantasy managers to invest in him ahead of Marko Arnautovic or Wilfried Zaha at the same price point. His main competitor Oumar Niasse (£5.5m) featured from the bench again. In midfield, Kevin Mirallas was handed another pre-season chance but both Theo Walcott (£6.5m) and Yannick Bolasie (£6.0m) are still expected to be above him in the pecking order when fit and the addition of Richarlison (£6.5m) to the ranks at Goodison Park could push him further away from the first team.

Gylfi Sigurdsson (£7.5m) and Idrissa Gueye (£5.0m) were named in a match squad for the first time this summer after returning from World Cup leave, but neither of them featured against Porto. Both of them should be involved against Blackburn Rovers on Thursday, with Kieran Dowell and Tom Davies (£5.5m) to make way for them.

Tosun and Sandro Ramirez were Everton’s greatest threat against Porto but neither of them could take their chances.

Moussa Marega scored the only goal of the game slotting in under Stekelenburg’s legs following a through-ball from Otavia.

EVERTON XI (4-2-3-1): Stekelenburg; Baines, Keane, Jagielka (Holgate 75’), Coleman; Schneiderlin, Davies (Besic 87’); Ramirez, Dowell (Niasse 87’), Mirallas (Vlasic 71’); Tosun.

SV DARMSTADT 98 1-1 HUDDERSFIELD TOWN

  • Goals: Steve Mounié (£6.0m)
  • Assists: Jordan Williams

Steve Mounié (£6.0m) scored his first goal of the summer against SV Darmstadt on Sunday to end Huddersfield’s run of 270 pre-season minutes without finding the net. Young full-back Jordan Williams set him up for the finish.

Aaron Mooy (£5.5m) made his return to the side following the World Cup, featuring as a second-half substitute and nearly providing an assist for a late Mounié from a free-kick. Fellow World Cup competitors Mathias ‘Zanka’ Jorgensen (£4.5m) and Jonas Lössl (£4.5m) were not involved though, as they are yet to return to training.

Scott Malone (£4.0m) got his first start of pre-season having managed 45 minutes against Dynamo Dresden. By all accounts he was a threat going forward and defended well too, but he has some work to do to justify his current position as the most popular option in his price bracket. The former Fulham man is owned by 12.1 percent of Fantasy managers but has been utilised considerably less than club-mate Chris Löwe (4.5m) so far. The German has already registered 145 minutes this summer, posting two assists and one clean sheet in the process. Aaron Wan-Bissaka (three starts) looks a better option in Malone’s price bracket while Bournemouth’s Jack Simpson has two starts and a goal under his belt thus far.

Elsewhere in the side, new signing Adama Diakhaby made a first start on the right-flank with Ramadan Sobhi (£5.0m) coming on for his second appearance of pre-season. Rajiv van La Parra (£5.0m) and Alex Pritchard (£5.0m) are starting to look like sure options in the Huddersfield attacking midfield area both making their third starts of the summer on the left-flank and number 10 role respectively.

Ben Hamer (£4.0m) was unlucky to be beaten for Darmstadt’s goal. After a string of impressive saves in the match, he directed one into the path of Yannick Stark who converted easily. The former Leicester City man has now started all but one of Huddersfield’s pre-season games so far so is worth keeping an eye on in the unlikely event that Lössl misses any action as a result of his World Cup leave.

HUDDERSFIELD XI (4-2-3-1): Hamer; Malone (Williams 72’), Schindler, Hefele, Smith; Billing, Sabiri (Mooy 65’); van La Parra, Pritchard, Diakhaby (Sobhi 63’), Mounié.

BORUSSIA DORTMUND 3-1 LIVERPOOL

  • Goals: Virgil van Dijk (£6.0m)
  • Assists: Andrew Robertson (£6.0m)

Virgil van Dijk (£6.0m) demonstrated his appeal for the upcoming FPL season by opening his pre-season account against Borussia Dortmund on Sunday. The centre-back was unlucky not to find the net in his first six months at Liverpool but jumped high enough to convert an Andrew Robertson (£6.0m) cross in a promising first-half display for the Reds in Charlotte, North Carolina.

However, there was a first-half muscle injury for Joel Matip (£5.0m) which has ruled him out of further participation in the USA tour, which could potentially open the door for one of either Joe Gomez (£5.0m) or Ragnar Klavan (£4.5m) to take his place in the expected absence of World Cup finalist Dejan Lovren (£5.0m) for Gameweek 1. Either one is worth considering as cheap alternatives into what we expect to be a strong defence in 2018/19, especially with some uncertainty over whether Nathaniel Clyne (£5.0m) or Trent Alexander-Arnold (£5.0m) will be first choice at right-back.

“Though the muscle injury suffered in his upper leg is not considered to be a long-term concern, Matip will not be available for selection in the remaining two games in America. He is therefore returning to Merseyside and will continue his recovery at Melwood.”

Matip may return to action before the start of the Premier League season so it’s worth keeping an eye on his fitness throughout the summer. However, Fantasy managers should also track the minutes of Gomez and Klavan to see if either of them stand a chance of lining up alongside van Dijk against West Ham on August 12. Both players have been involved in five matches, neither of them completing a full 90 minutes yet, although it was Gomez who specifically replaced Matip in Charlotte. He has also registered more game time (248 minutes to 225), but the cheaper Klavan has started more times (two to one). Furthermore, all of Klavan’s appearances have come at centre-back but two of Gomez’s have been at right full-back and a large portion of his outing against Dortmund was there too, after he was shifted wide to accommodate young centre-back Nathaniel Phillips coming on for Clyne. Although with Clyne expected to be first-choice in that position, Gomez may not be needed at full-back.

Naby Keita (£7.5m) impressed again, this time as a second-half substitute although he was unable to add to his pre-season tally of three assists. Alongside him in the second period was James Milner (£5.5m), who conceded a 66th minute penalty after fouling Christian Pulisic in the area. The American converted the spot-kick past Loris Karius (£5.0m).

In attack, Daniel Sturridge (£6.0m) played another match in a deeper number 10 role, although he remains Liverpool’s top scorer in pre-season with three goals. The Englishman is certainly worth keeping an eye on if any injuries come up in the Reds front line.

Pulisic scored an 89th minute goal on the counter attack to make it 2-1 before another Karius mistake allowed Jacob Brunn Larsen to add a third. Pulisic’s shot was parried by the goalkeeper straight into Larsen’s path.

Mohamed Salah (£13.0m) and Sadio Mané (£9.5m) watched the match from the sidelines and are expected to be involved against Manchester City on Wednesday.

LIVERPOOL FIRST-HALF XI (4-3-3): Karius; Robertson, van Dijk, Matip (Gomez 22’), Clyne; Jones, Lallana, Fabinho; Camacho, Origi, Markovic.

LIVERPOOL SECOND-HALF XI (4-2-3-1): Karius; Moreno, Klavan, Gomez, Clyne (Phillips 62’); Milner, Keita; Woodburn, Sturridge, Ojo; Solanke.

SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES 0-0 MANCHESTER UNITED

  • Goals: None
  • Assists: None

Interest in Manchester United’s defensive assets may take a hit if Antonio Valencia’s (£6.5m) knock sustained against San Jose Earthquakes forces him to miss out on competitive action next month. Manager Jose Mourinho explained that the newly-appointed club captain is injured although there is no estimated return for the Ecuadorian just yet.

“He’s injured and I think we need to get used to it. Last season he was already in this type of situation and this season he will probably have more of that.

Were Valencia to miss out on the start of the Premier League campaign, it would be difficult to determine who would replace him at right-back and United’s defensive solidity may diminish somewhat too. New signing Diogo Dalot (£5.5m) is not expected to be fit until September as he deals with a meniscus problem, Matteo Darmian (£5.0m) may leave in the coming days amid interest from Juventus and Napoli, while Victor Lindelöf (£5.0m) will return late after World Cup involvement and is more naturally a centre-back anyway. Youngster Timothy Fosu-Mensah (not yet in FPL) could feature in his place, having amassed 12 appearances for United and 17 for Crystal Palace in the last three seasons. All the aforementioned options could provide further budget routes in United’s defence but it may be harder to trust without Valencia, so Fantasy managers are urged to keep an eye out for the next update on his fitness.

Other defensive options do seem a little easier to predict with United as Luke Shaw (£5.0m), Chris Smalling (£6.0m) and Eric Bailly (£5.5m) all started for the second match in a row. With Ashley Young (£6.0m) and Phil Jones (£5.5m) still missing for now, this trio may be the ones to look at for United defensive cover.

Aside from that, the team that faced the Earthquakes in America was another second-string one as Mourinho continues to miss a large number of key players as a result of World Cup leave. Anthony Martial (£7.5m), who has picked up some ownership in the last week, started another match as the centre-forward, lasting 90 minutes but was unable to capitalise on his advanced position once again. The Frenchman may have to improve his pre-season performances to convince Fantasy managers to keep him in their squads, even if he is playing out of position. Meanwhile, Alexis Sánchez (£10.5m) got his first start of pre-season under his belt ahead of a season where he could be an important asset.

Although it’s difficult to read too much into pre-season performances and results, Man United do feel a little out of sorts ahead of the new campaign. They will be missing a large number of key players if Mourinho delivers on his early claim that he won’t use anyone who played in the World Cup in Gameweek 1. This most recent quote about pre-season may also chastened interest in United players.

“We are not a team. We’re a group of players from different teams. Some are first-team, some under-23s, some coming from loans and going on loan, some are younger, under-18s. We don’t have a team to play much better than we did but it’s one more training session.”

Some good news for United is that Nemanja Matic (£5.0m) has now joined up with the training squad following his World Cup leave.

MANCHESTER UNITED XI (4-3-3): J Pereira (Grant 45’); Shaw (Mitchell 75’), Smalling (Fosu-Mensah 45’), Bailly (Tuanzebe 45’), Valencia (Darmian 8’); A Pereira (Gomes 83’), Garner (McTominay 45’), Herrera; Sánchez (Greenwood 65’), Martial, Chong (Mata 45’).

VfL Bochum 0-0 Wolves (5-4 on penalties) | Real Betis 0-0 Wolves

  • Goals: None
  • Assists: None

Rui Patricio (£4.5m) saved two penalties in the shootout between Wolves and Bochum on Sunday, although it was not enough to win the contest. But such a performance, in his first outing for the newly-promoted side bodes well for the Portuguese international ahead of his first Premier League campaign.

Raul Jimenez (£5.5m) also made his first start for Wolves against Bochum, taking up the role of centre-forward, flanked by Diogo Jota (£6.5m) and Bright Enobakhare (£4.5m) in a front three.

Nuno split his squad between two 45-minute matches, one against Bochum, the other against Betis. The first was the semi-final of H-Hotels Cup, which was lost on penalties after a 0-0 draw.

Ruben Neves (£5.0m), Ryan Bennett (£4.0m) and Jimenez had chances to score in the semi-final but the tie went straight to spot-kicks where Neves, Jota, Pedro Goncalves and Enobakhare found the net and Jimenez, Conor Coady (£4.5m) and Ryan Giles had their efforts saved.

It was another 3-4-3 formation used against Betis, and another goalless draw. Helder Costa (£5.0m) and Ivan Cavaleiro (£5.5m) were the biggest threat in that match but neither could break the deadlock.

WOLVES vs BOCHUM XI (3-4-3): Patricio; Hause, Coady, Bennett; Giles, Goncalves, Neves, Buur; Jota, Jimenez, Enobakhare.

WOLVES vs REAL BETIS XI (3-4-3): Ruddy; Boly, Batth, Saiss; John, Watt, Gibbs-White, Doherty; Cavaleiro, Ashley-Seal, Costa.

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884 Comments Post a Comment
  1. the dom 1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Cedric should be nailed this season or not?

    1. Warby84
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Should be, but I’m avoiding Southampton defense, they concede far to many!

      1. the dom 1
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        got him from the start of my drafts but thinking I should ship him now?

    2. the dom 1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      lots of good 4.5 def options this year too!

  2. Finnish Fish
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    1259th Draft, anyways I can improve it?

    Patricio • (4.0)
    Robbo • Bavies • PVA
    Salah (C) • Hughes • Keita • Madd • Sane
    Auba • Arnie

    Subs:
    Mendy • Peltier • Kamara

    Any thoughts? Cheers

    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Nope you seem to have put a good deal of planning into it.
      The Kieta and Maddison picks are different but shrewd.

    2. Pegboy
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Decent. I wouldn't have a Spurs defender early on. We'll have a makeshift team for a while and playing away a lot.

      I'm guessing you'll generally play 4-4-2, and only resort to Hughes every now and again?

    3. Bucky Barnes
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I think that's a good side, I think Newcastle might surprise a shattered spurs missing a number of the regular first team, so would fancy Mendy over bavies to start.

    4. Azathoth
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      You don't get a 6m def who can provide assists to bench him cause he plays Ars away.

  3. Penguin
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    I don’t get why people waste money on defenders, lets be honest it’s rare especially in the pl that teams get clean sheets, & when that do they still don’t get many points throughout the season.

    1. Maddi Son
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I'm going with 3 at the back with this structure:

      5.5
      4.5 • 6.0 • 4.0 (4.0 • 4.0)

      Always get told to upgrade my bench but it's not happening. I think there's a good chance one of W-B, Peltier or Bennett will play so gotta make the most of that value.

    2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Man united about 16
      Spurs the same
      Man City 15
      Chelsea 13
      Arsenal 12

      Think of it as a midfielder getting an assist and a clean sheet bonus

      1. Cok3y5murf
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        United got 19

        1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Well to be honest I cheated I just looked at the defenders who got the most clean sheets and hoped no one would notice!

    3. Ha.
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      You are aware that Azpi outscored Hazard last season, right?

    4. Penguin
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I’m putting all my money into midfield & strikers

      1. Salah'd n Sauce
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Good luck with that

      2. cravencottage
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Big mistake

    5. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      expensive defenders have provided the best value by far the last few seasons.

    6. banskt
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      lets look at the points of Mendy vs any 6.0m midfielder / forward at the end of the season. And, then we talk.

      In other words, tell me a 6.5m midfielder / forward who scored more than Azpilicueta, Alonso, Otamendi or Valencia in the 2017/18 season.

    7. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      actually, statistically defenders are the best value players in the game, if anything people should be investing MORE in defence

    8. AuFeld
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I agree. They are a poor use of funds.

    9. willl
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      The most expensive defenders are 6.5. For that price you can expect at least 12 clean sheets, and a couple of attacking returns.

      What 6.5 mid/forward will match that?

      1. Stats Don\'t Lie
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        this^ need to have about 10 goals and 5 assists at least

        1. cravencottage
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          yes

    10. Cok3y5murf
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I don't know, I was too busy getting easy points from Davies, Kolasinac, Otamendi and Jones at the start of last season

    11. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Look at the total points of the top 3 defenders last year And compare their scores to the 6.5M midfielders.

      6.5M - Azpilicueta - 175
      6.5M - Alonso - 165
      6.5M - Otamendi - 156

      6.5M - Milivojevic - 144
      6M. - Doucore - 136
      6.5M - Richarlison - 125

      Based on this, what are your thoughts on premium defenders?

      1. Tempestic
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        The thing is you also get better value out of 4.5 defenders than 4.5 mids and forwards.

      2. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        and yet because you've got 6.5m defenders, you have to pick those shitty 6.5 midfielders (instead of 8/8.5 ones)

        1. willl
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Nah just get a 4.5m mid and some more expensive defenders 🙂

          1. SADIO SANÉ
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            🙂 just get two of the 5.0 mids and knock yourself out

        2. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          No, my point is that you can find a nice balance.

          De Gea,

          Robertson, Mendy, Schlupp

          Salah, Eriksen, Mahrez, 6.5M, 5M

          Aguero, Arnautovic, (4.5M)

          Or, you could play a 5.5M mid instead of the 6.5M mid and move the 4.5M forward to a 5.5M forward and play your favourite 2 outof the 4Th, 5Th mid and 3rd striker slots.

          Just ideas, but shows you can have premium defenders and still own premium mids.

          1. SADIO SANÉ
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            yep, makes sense - I'll have something pretty similar

            1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              Good luck bud !

              1. SADIO SANÉ
                • 8 Years
                5 years, 9 months ago

                you too, we all need it!

    12. Penguin
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Just saying I prefer to put my money into the likes of aguero salah aubameyang etc as they will out score all defenders, & thinking of a punt on Sanchez too, so 5 big hitters in place of money into defenders imo will have better stats.

      1. willl
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        They are also much more expensive, need to look at the value they add to your team.

      2. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Aguero scores 169 PST last season, azpi scores 175.

        One costs 6.5M, one costs 11M. I doubt you will captain Aguero that often if you have Salah, so this further dilutes this option.

        1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          PST should say points*

    13. Stokealona
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Goals, assists & maybe clean sheets. Plenty of attacking strategic teams nowadays. Play 3 at the back

  4. banskt
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Whats the best can I do with 13.5m for a keeper + 2 bench players?

    A. Ederson (with Peltier + Wan-Bissaka on bench)
    B. Pickford (with Daniels + Wan-Bissaka on bench)
    C. Patricio (with Daniels + Tomkins on bench)

    1. Yankee Toffee
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      a

    2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Ideally one without Cardiff or Bournemouth defenders

      1. banskt
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        So, that rules out all the three. But, there's many options at 4.5m... effectively one at 4.0m though.

    3. Pegboy
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I like C

      1. Pegboy
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        But not Daniels

        1. banskt
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Cedric probably. but the idea remains.

    4. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      im on A atm

      1. banskt
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        While I am eager to believe that Ederson can and should outscore Pickford, Patricio on the other hand, may be a better pick given his save points and penalty save points.

    5. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      C for me But never Daniels

      1. Warby84
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Agree Daniels will be limited this season getting on 32

  5. Yankee Toffee
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    RMT plz. Pedro to nail down that spot in Sarri's squad, had a goal yesterday.

    Ederson, 4.0
    Bailly, Coleman, Wan B, Peltier, Simpson
    Salah, Mkhi, Mahrez, Pedro, Stephens
    Aguero, Firmino, Zaha

    1. Salah'd n Sauce
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Tasty team

      1. Yankee Toffee
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers Salah'd

    2. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      id prefer a 442 to 343. zaha > 4.5, simpson + peltier > douglas + shaw and bailly > robbo

      1. Yankee Toffee
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Shaw will go out of the team after a couple GWs and both Robbo and VVD are a bit expensive though I'd like to own one of them. Thanks for the input but sticking with a 3-4-3, or 3-5-2. cheers

    3. banskt
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Very similar to my team. I see that you have gone the Ederson (with two 4.0m bench) route. Hmm. Something to think over.

      1. Yankee Toffee
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        3, 4.0 defenders rotating...

        And yes, Ederson and a 4.0 gk.

    4. Teror
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      For a 3-4-3 I'd say it's very good. That last defence spot is tricky, though. Wan B & Peltier could both end up as bench fodder and then what? But this is a risk that I'm sure you know you're taking. I'd probably be inclined to downgrade Bailly to a Burnley defender and then upgrade Peltier.

      1. Yankee Toffee
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Yes, 3, 4.0 defenders rotation. PAL and BOU rotate very well with CAR thrown into the mix to cover tricky weeks. The rub is they all have to start...but I could swap them out as pre-season tells us more.

    5. Pirlø's Pen
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      3 4.0m defenders is not an option

      1. Yankee Toffee
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        oh but it is...

      2. Now I'm Panicking
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Why not? You only need one of them to play

        1. Yankee Toffee
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          This.

        2. Pirlø's Pen
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          One injury and you’ll be taking hits.

          1. Yankee Toffee
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            3 injuries...

  6. Marouaninho
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    A or B?

    A: Azpi - Barnes - Masuaku
    B : Neves/Cairney - Zaha - Lowton

    Veering towards B, would likely get in Arnie for GW3

    Cheers

  7. Warby84
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Is willian worth a punt if he stays...
    I’m torn between willian and Sigurdsson, and Mili and Townsend?

    Ederson/Speroni
    Robertson/Mendy/Coleman/Wan Bissaka/Suttner
    Salah/Willian or Sigurdsson / Mili Or Townsend/Sanchez/Neves
    Aguero/Arnautovic/Kamara

    1. Warby84
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Sanchez is easily removed if he starts badmy is a my risky punt

    2. Salah'd n Sauce
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Thinking the same tbh. I've floated that 3rd Mid about a lot. Mkhi/Siggy etc but if WIllian stays and is part of Sarri plans then could be brilliant.

    3. Yankee Toffee
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Pedro

      1. Warby84
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        I thought Milivojevic was good last year but only nailed on penalties, if I went for Townsend I’d get an extra 0.5 ITB.. Is he nailed on??

        1. Yankee Toffee
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Will know on Sat.

    4. banskt
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I would have started with Siggurdsson, and swap to Willian if he keeps starting.

      I would have started with Milivojevic and kept playing him.

      But, you could do better with 14m for two midfielders. Keep a watch on the pre-season and decide towards the end. Walcott if fit, Richarlison if he moves to Everton, Maddisson if he keeps banging in, Pedro if Willian moves out. If none of these happens, I would start with Gudmundsson and Milivojevic and keep the extra 1.0m in the bank.

      1. Warby84
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks, Think I’ll settle and stop the changes and keep an eye pre Season, I did have gudmunsson in a previous draft, it’s never ending..

        1. Warby84
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          That would I believe put 1.5m in the bank... Is gudmundsson on the set pieces or Brady???

  8. Duffy Dunk
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Starting to feel uncomfortable not owning Aguero with their fixtures, I tried to include him:

    Ederson Hamer
    Robertson Bailly Tomkins Jagielka Cedric
    Salah Sane Pedro Cairney Hughes
    Aguero Aubameyang Kamara

    If there's any run of fixtures worth tripling up, "HUD wlv NEW FUL cdf BHA" must be it.
    1 nailed source of clean sheets (Ederson), a rested and of proven quality mid for MCI last season (Sane) and a repeatedly high scoring fwd (Kun) seem too straightforward.
    If only we knew if Dilva or Bilva are nailed for the first gameweeks...

    1. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      If there is any run of fixtures worth rotating Jesus/Aguero, "HUD wlv NEW FUL cdf BHA" must be it.

      1. JamTart
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Might see it as a chance to rest Jesus after WC then bring him on late on in some of the later games?

        Obviously not ideal if Kun doesn't get 90 mins but even with 70-odd mins he can still rip those teams apart.

    2. Warby84
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      You only have 2 proven mdf, 3 if Pedro gets the game time, is Jagielka nailed on and Southampton leak goal, Bailly could be replaced by McGuire at same price.. Think mdf is unbalanced by the hefty strike force, but honestly worth a punt for the first couple weeks, until you get your free sub...

    3. banskt
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Ha... wait for Pep.

  9. squ1rrel
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    *Sigh* Repost. Please RMT, just need a few thoughts.

    Patricio (4.0)
    Robbo - Mendy - AWB (Cedric, 4.0)
    Salah - Sane - Ramsey - Maddison - Cavaleiro
    Auba - Firmino (Quaner)

    1. Teror
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Don't see why you'd go for Ramsey over Mkhi. Who's Cavaleiro? I'd only pair a 4.0 keeper with a premium keeper. Two 4.0s in defence is too risky.

      1. Top Lad Dakes.
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Ramsey better than mhki imo. Wolves mid.

      2. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Agreed over Mkhi but I think 8.5m on keepers is fine, rotation sucks with the big score invariably on your bench

    2. Yankee Toffee
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I think you'd be happier with a 3-4-3...

      1. Warby84
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        I agree premium keeper only with a 4m, in fact I agree with the first comments, struggling to like this, how much ITB??

    3. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Cavaleiro to Cairney and upgrade your other 4.0m def, otherwise I like it

    4. squ1rrel
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Maybe Ramsey -> Pedro instead because of fixtures. I'm set on 8.5 keepers

  10. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    No Douglas in either game? Is he injured?

    1. squ1rrel
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      knock, I believe

      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers, can't find anything about it

  11. will2win
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Is anyone considering Morata as an option?

    1. Teror
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      No.

    2. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Not me

    3. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Only 2.8% and he is sure to start the first few games of the season with ok fixtures and playing for an attacking manager.

      He could prove to be a better pick than his high ownership counterparts.

      1. Teror
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        He hates England, though.

        1. Ógie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Meh he never told me that.It is just a perception and in fact most people that are not from England hate the place but that does not stop them from doing well there. 😉

          He struggled during his first season in England but he will not be the first or the last to have done so.I am always forgiving during a players first season as i know how unsettling it can be to move job and set up in a knew country.

      2. George Sillett
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        I don't really think that you will get many Chelsea fans agreeing with this. He is very frustrating and frequently flatters to deceive.

        1. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Had a shocker yesterday apparently

          1. George Sillett
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            His apparent lackadaisical attitude is enough to put me off.

    4. Yankee Toffee
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Pedro

      1. Norman Conquest
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        this

    5. banskt
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I am considering all possible Chelsea options. Even Morata. But, I know I will go with the flow, and start bringing them in after GW3.

    6. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Remembering his whiny face as he sits on the ground whining to the ref for the 20th time because someone touched him puts me off.

  12. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    A) Ederson Mahrez Silva (current)
    B) Mendy Mahrez Silva

    1. JamTart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      B

    2. I Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      So basically Ederson or Mendy?

    3. Cok3y5murf
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Why do people do this? The question is just Ederson or Mendy. Something wrong with you?

      1. +
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        You could argue the fact he has Mahrez and Silva rather than, say, Laporte and Aguero, is relevant

        1. Cok3y5murf
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          How is that relevant?

          1. banskt
            • 10 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Otherwise, there would have been answers like, "Ederson AND Mendy"

            1. willl
              • 8 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              There still can be answers like that...

          2. +
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Because having two City defenders is different to having one City defender

            1. Cok3y5murf
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 9 months ago

              A) Ederson, Laporte, Aguero
              B) Mendy, Laporte, Aguero

              Both choices have 2 City defenders. So why is that relevant? The only difference is Ederson vs Mendy

              1. +
                • 8 Years
                5 years, 9 months ago

                Because the attractiveness of owning Mendy is partly dependent on whether or not you already own Laporte

                1. Cok3y5murf
                  • 7 Years
                  5 years, 9 months ago

                  But not Ederson?

                  1. +
                    • 8 Years
                    5 years, 9 months ago

                    That's right

        2. Top Lad Dakes.
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          cheers

      2. Top Lad Dakes.
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        blimey chill out...

        1. Cok3y5murf
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Blimey use your head...

    4. willl
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Ederson AND Mendy

  13. Scheister
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Finally deciding on a set up here, but can't quite make this decision. Any input appreciated!

    Patricio 4.0
    Robbo Mendy Tomkins 4.0 ___
    Salah Mahrez Cairney ___ ___
    Kun Wood ___

    A) Lowton Siggy 4.5 Firmino (3-4-3)
    B) Bailly Eriksen Mkhi Kamara (3-5-2)

  14. Emiliano Sala
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Alireza Jahanbakhsh arrived in england to join his new club.
    Brighton most likely. Leicester wants him too.

  15. Jimjam
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Pickford worth the extra 0.5 over Fabianski/Patricio etc?

    1. Yankee Toffee
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Not for the first 2-3 GWs

    2. cravencottage
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      no

  16. JurgenRodgers
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Surprised myself with trying to fit Kane in..

    Patricio 4.0

    Coleman Robertson Mendy
    Cedric Wan Bissaka

    Mahrez Mkhitaryan Salah
    Pedro Hughes

    Austin Kane King

    1. Warby84
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I think Kane will want to start.. August normally a bad month but who knows this year, he could bang them in.. I think soton will struggle for goals and concede... King has a nice early run but is inconsistent in my opinion

  17. I Member
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    A) PVA, Siggy & Kun
    B) Cedric, D. Silva & Auba

    1. JamTart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      A

      Think I've convinced myself to start with Kun with Auba's place in my team threatened by Firmino.

      Can you imagine having Auba against Chelsea GW2 when others have Kun at home to HUD?

  18. PatrickLee
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    RMT please! There's £0.5 to spend.

    Ederson (Fabianski)

    Lascelles, Mendy, Daniels. Valencia, Cedric

    Martial, Mahrez, Eriksen (Townsend, Gudmundsson)

    Firmino, Aubameyang (Kamera)

    1. Stokealona
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Valencia injured pre season

    2. Dee Lixon
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      5/10. Don't like the defence - Lascelles (terrible schedule), Daniels (Bou poor), Valencia (injured), Cedric (Soton poor). And Martial might be gone soon.

      1. PatrickLee
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Good call on Lascelles' schedule. I'll change him out, but he's a great defender, one of the best I saw last year.

        Cedrics and Daniels have always done me well - any other suggestions for mid-low priced defenders?

        I hope Martial stays, I think he has huge potential. Mourinho has said that, if Martial does stay, he starts the season. Promising fixtures and a good striker determined to prove himself/advertise himself in shop window? Worth keeping him around until the last minute I think.

        1. Dee Lixon
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          Agree on Lascelle in principle and it might work out. But the other two not so much. Maybe Boly (4,5)? Newly promoted teams usually do well in the beginning of the season as well.

          Thnik Martial will be gone or at least will be back on the bench when Lukaku et al returns.

          But who knows?

          1. PatrickLee
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            I've taken Lascelles out - good call.

            I'm going to keep Martial in for now and see how it plays out. Might take him out anyway as United look totally blunt without Lukaku. Once he's back in the team, Pogba is my United player.

            Team at the moment (after your input):

            Ederson (Fabianski)

            Valencia, Cedric, Mendy, Alexander Arnold (Daniels)

            Eriksen, Mahrez, Martial (Gudmundsson, Gibbs-White)

            Aubameyang, Firminho, King.

  19. Parm
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Some teams forgetting the rules around here

    https://i.imgur.com/5bjcibB.jpg?1

    1. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Only 17 day left until reality kicks in.

    2. willl
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Which one to get is the issue, none seem nailed.

  20. calosul1
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Please rate/rinse my first draft of a team.

    Goalkeepers- Ryan & Begovic rotation (are there better 4.5m GKs?)

    Defenders- Mendy 6m Tomkins 4.5m Cedric 4.5m (are there better 4.5m defenders than them two?)

    Midfield- Mane 9.5m , Jota 6.5m, Gudmundsson 6m , Hazard 10.5m (Who should I get if Hazard leaves?)

    Attackers- Aguero 11m Lacazette 9.5m Wilson 6m

    Benched defenders- Morrison 5m & Ward 5m (I'm sure there must be a better option than Ward?!)
    Benched midfielder- Kenedy (better 5m option?

    1. Dacra
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Too much bench value.

  21. JamTart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Mahrez and Arnie/Zaha or Sane and Wood?

    1. Yankee Toffee
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Mah and Zah

      1. JamTart
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers. I'm not convinced by Wood but those early fixtures could be beneficial.

  22. Dacra
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Quick switch to 352:

    Bego (Boruc)
    Mendy - Robertson - Coleman (Wan, Bennett)
    Salah - Keita - Costa - Mahrez - Pedro
    Aguero - Lacazette (Kamara)

    1. Yankee Toffee
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Go back to 3-4-3, imho

  23. Cofinho
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Must have defenders in this season?

    1. JamTart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Robbo and potentially Mendy for me. More so than a united def.

    2. SW6
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      No must haves, but Robertson, Mendy, Wan-Bissaka are in the majority of teams on here

    3. Yankee Toffee
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      could play a 0-5-5, see how it goes....

    4. Weak Become Heros
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      United.
      Spurs.

  24. thorvaldsson
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Is Barry Douglas a good pick?

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Attacking wb in attacking side and on set pieces. What's not to like?

      1. Petrichor II
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Will they still be really attacking team in Premier League? Not really sure about that.

        1. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 9 months ago

          They haven't come up with a goal of just avoiding relegation, they are very ambitious. And very rich

          1. Petrichor II
            • 5 Years
            5 years, 9 months ago

            Should buy Mbappe then.

      2. thorvaldsson
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Didn't feature in the last two preseason games but its preseason I still want to take a punt on him.

    2. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Sounds like the name of a guy your granddad goes drinking to the Conservative Club with.

    3. Stokealona
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I've got him, but someone said he's injured on here

    4. ***00tennis***
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Bookies priced WOL up as a mid table team is a good clue, so looks on paper loads of poss value. Douglas took a slight knock a cple of matches ago, not supposed to be serious. Some good poss OOP players as well could be value....opening fixtures not great, but then promoted teams tend to do OK first few weeks as soo much heart/desire to do well.....

  25. Marvin of all he surveys
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Nobody tempted by Sessegnon?

    1. SW6
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Very much, just not sure it's a good idea

      1. Marvin of all he surveys
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Plenty of people going for Jota at the same price though.

    2. Stokealona
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Going see how he starts. Jota for me now

  26. Mayor of Flair
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts on this hour glass proportioned side?

    Ederson
    Robbo Mendy Tark Tomkins
    Salah Lamela Costa
    Aguero Firmino Auba

    Stekelenberg Peltier Stephens Romeu

    1. Cofinho
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Low mid

    2. Stokealona
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Not balanced, midfield weak

    3. Yankee Toffee
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Could work but I wouldnt choose Lamela and Costa as the other 2 mids.

    4. suddenorgan
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      you're giving yourself very little flexibility to jump on any midfield bandwagons

  27. JamTart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Worth rolling the dice on Keita over Firmino?

    Could be an exciting differential and sounds like he'll play as a free midfielder in a 3 - allows him to get forward in support through the middle and get on the end of moves/thread through balls. Thinking he could score similar to Coutinho?

    Firmino is a great steady trickle of points but at 2m cheaper Keita could not be far behind.

    1. Cofinho
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Worth. Keita will have a lot assists this season

      1. JamTart
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Allows me to keep Auba as well rather than drop to Firmino which makes me happier.

    2. Dacra
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Ive made this change today while tinkering, still unsure.

      Keita + Laca is 0.5 more that Mkhi + Firmino.

      1. JamTart
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        It allows me to have triple pool whilst keeping Auba for if he does start fast.

    3. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      It's worth a punt imo, £2m goes a long way

    4. Norman Conquest
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      6 goals and 5 assists in 27 games last year also 8 yellows and 2 reds

      the latter has put me off him

      1. JamTart
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        I'd forgot about the discipline. But in this Liverpool team I can't see him being asked to defend much. Think he'll be more of a creator.

        Maybe some more research needed.

      2. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        Meh, I'll just sell him when he gets sent off 🙂

    5. SADIO SANÉ
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      I'd expect someone like Pedro/Ramsey to score more than Keita - also expect Arnie to get close enough to Firmino for 2.5 less - so I probably won't have either

      1. Dacra
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        No. Much no.

      2. JamTart
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 9 months ago

        I get the Arnie and Firmino comparison but surely at first the latter is better to have then swap to try maximise returns? It's not like once you pick you're locked in for the duration.

        Similar with the Keita comparisons. Pedro may not be nailed depending on transfers and will take time to settle, Ramsey has poor first 2 GWs and it's a simple swap back come GW3/4 if it doesn't pay off?

  28. Dacra
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    So, its basically come down to 352 with a 6.5m mid, or 343 with a 6.5m forward.

    Pedro v Lamela v Walcott v Richarlison v Wood v King

    1. JamTart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Richarlison/Pedro for me. Depending on pre season.

    2. willl
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      442 with a 6m defender

  29. The Head-Ake
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    Patricio
    Mendy Coleman Robbo W Bissaka
    Martial Jota Mahrez Salah (c)
    Kun Firmino (Foster Bennett Kamara Odoi)

    GTG? Martial and Odoi to Cairney and Mkhi after GW3 🙂

    1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 9 months ago

      Looks good

  30. quayle99
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 9 months ago

    2 Mids for 10M?

    Currently on Wilshire + Davis.

    Other options?

    Rest of mid: Salah, Sane, Doucoure.

    One or both will be benched most weeks