Pre-Season

The best budget FPL defenders for 2020/21

Our position-by-position analysis of the Fantasy Premier League player price list begins with a look at budget defenders.

In this piece, we will scrutinise the 91 defensive assets currently available at £4.0m or £4.5m and pinpoint the players who stand out – as well as those to avoid.

With there being a glut of premium midfield options in FPL this season, budget-freeing players in defence may be in particularly high demand.

Indeed, six sub-£5.0m defenders currently have double-digit ownership at the time of writing.

£4.0m Bench Fodder – Or Better?

Lundstram delivers on recent promise as Grealish misses penalty

The 2019/20 golden goose that was John Lundstram (£5.5m) has been reclassified and handed a price rise ahead of the new campaign, leaving a £4.0m-shaped hole in FPL ahead of the new campaign.

It seems very unlikely that we’ll get a repeat of the erstwhile Fantasy defender’s out-of-position heroics from another source this season but there are always one or two names who emerge from the FPL bargain bin to establish themselves as bench fodder options or better.

Pre-season will be a good indicator of which of these assets may come to the fore and it was in Sheffield United’s friendlies last summer that it became apparent that Lundstram was going to be more than just a back-up option.

While very unlikely to match Lundstram’s achievements, Nathan Ferguson (£4.0m) could still replicate what Aaron Wan-Bissaka (£5.5m) did at Crystal Palace a few seasons ago.

Ferguson joined the Eagles from West Bromwich Albion this summer, having almost done so in January.

Able to play in either full-back position and at centre-half, Ferguson’s versatility could come in handy as Roy Hodgson’s side have a number of first-team defenders who are struggling to be fit for the new campaign.

Right-back is the role in which he will reportedly challenge in the medium term, however, with Joel Ward (£4.5m) at risk.

Teammate Tyrick Mitchell (£4.0m), who deputised for the injured Patrick van Aanholt (£5.5m) in two matches at the back-end of 2019/20, is also available at this price point and we’ll be eagerly awaiting news on the Dutchman’s recovery ahead of the new campaign.

While we would never wish misfortune on any player, an injury to Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.5m) would see Neco Williams’ (£4.0m) ownership figure sky-rocket.

The back-up Liverpool right-back saw plenty of pitch-time once Liverpool’s title win was in the bag but will be reduced to playing second fiddle at the start of 2020/21, unless anything happens to Alexander-Arnold – otherwise, the occasional start in periods of congestion or late-game substitute appearance is about the best he can hope for.

Much of what we have written about Williams also applies to most of the other £4.0m assets, in that they will be reliant on injuries befalling their positional rivals in order to get game-time.

Wing-back Oskar Buur (£4.0m) and centre-half Max Kilman (£4.0m) are some way down the pecking order in their respective positions at Wolves, while Manchester United’s Teden Mengi (£4.0m) has had only six minutes of senior football (in the Europa League) in his fledgeling senior career.

Newcastle United youngster Kelland Watts (£4.0m) and Burnley’s out-of-favour Ben Gibson (£4.0m) may well depart their club on loan or permanently, meanwhile.

Bernardo (£4.0m) will play back-up to Dan Burn (£4.5m) at Brighton, while Sam Vokins (£4.0m) is another understudy left-back on the south coast, this time at Southampton.

It’s worth monitoring the cases of Jarrad Branthwaite (£4.0m) and Ben Johnson (£4.0m) over the summer.

Branthwaite impressed at centre-half in injury-hit Everton’s final four fixtures of last season but will now face increased competition from the Toffees’ fit-again Mason Holgate (£5.0m) and Yerry Mina (£5.5m).

Right-back Johnson was the beneficiary of Jeremy Ngakia’s decision to leave east London on a free in June, starting West Ham’s last three matches.

Ryan Fredericks (£4.5m) was recalled to the team in Gameweek 38+ but Johnson still kept his place, switching flanks to cover for West Ham’s two injured left-backs.

Finally, a word on Leeds United’s £4.0m-rated quartet.

Leif Davis, Oliver Casey, Barry Douglas and Pascal Struijk started just eight Championship matches between them last season, with set-piece whizz Douglas responsible for six of them.

Most are expected to be back-ups if they stick around next season although Struijk, interestingly, started Leeds’ last two Championship matches in central midfield (admittedly because of injuries and there being nothing tangible to play for) and impressed.

With Leeds still no closer to securing Ben White‘s (£4.5m) permanent signature at the time of writing, Struijk could even be in the shake-up for a start at centre-back in Gameweek 1.

Newly Promoted £4.5m Options

On the subject of Marcelo Bielsa’s side, there are four more Leeds defenders available at £4.5m.

Garnering the most attention from FPL managers at present are Stuart Dallas and Luke Ayling, who are currently the third and fourth most-owned FPL defenders at the £4.5m price point.

Those two players were Leeds’ first-choice full-backs for much of the season, registering eight attacking returns apiece in a side that kept 22 clean sheets and conceded on just 35 occasions.

Dallas and the equally versatile Ezgjan Alioski (£4.5m) were both deployed ‘out of position’ by Bielsa on several occasions and it’s worth keeping an eye on the Whites’ pre-season friendly line-ups to see if there are any clues ahead of Gameweek 1.

Dallas seems to find a space in Bielsa’s side no matter if his services aren’t required at left-back, having started all but one of his side’s 46 Championship matches last season.

You can read much more on Leeds’ defence, including centre-back Liam Cooper (£4.5m), in our special player-by-player guide to the newly promoted outfit.

With the £5.0m-rated Semi Ajayi the stand-out option in the West Brom defence, there is little left to cheer in the £4.5m bracket.

Uncertainty in the full-back positions and indeed alongside Ajayi at centre-half means that we wouldn’t be able to call Slaven Bilic’s first-choice defence at this early stage and all eyes will be on West Brom’s pre-season fixtures, along with any Albion movement in the transfer market.

You can read an in-depth, player-by-player guide to the Baggies’ backline here.

As with West Brom, there are question marks over the competency of Fulham’s backline, as well as the personnel within it.

January signing Michael Hector (£4.5m) looks a secure starter after having had a transformative effect on the Cottagers’ defence in the second half of the season, although he didn’t particularly pose much of a goal threat after his arrival.

Neither did the ageing Tim Ream (£4.5m), starter of 44 of Fulham’s Championship matches, who was preferred over Alfie Mawson (£4.5m) as Hector’s partner this calendar year.

Scott Parker may well bring in a right-back this summer (especially if Denis Odoi departs), with Cyrus Christie (£4.5m) and Steven Sessegnon (£4.5m) his existing options in that department.

Again, we won’t retread too much over old ground and instead point you in the direction of our detailed player-by-player guide to Fulham’s defence.

Big Six Back-Ups and Potential Starters

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Brandon Williams (£4.5m) has been handed a price rise by FPL after his breakthrough season in 2019/20, although he is still in budget defender territory.

Given how prone to injury Luke Shaw (£5.0m) can be, we Fantasy managers will be watching with keen interest over the coming weeks to see if the more senior left-back has recovered from the ankle problem that prematurely ended his season.

Axel Tuanzebe and Timothy Fosu-Mensah are the other back-up United options available at this price point but it’ll be Williams who the FPL world will be monitoring once the Red Devils’ season gets underway in Gameweek 2.

Ole Gunnar Solskaer’s troops kept clean sheets in nine of their final 14 league matches last season, while Williams made 11 starts in the whole of 2019/20.

Juan Foyth‘s one league start under Jose Mourinho saw the Argentinean hooked at half-time, so it remains to be seen if the sole £4.5m Spurs defender is anything but surplus to requirements this summer.

Across north London, there is more intrigue in the £4.5m bracket.

While two of Arsenal’s four-strong contingent at this price are currently crocked, there could potentially be a bargain to be had in the shape of William Saliba.

The highly-thought-of teenage centre-back was signed for a whopping £26m at the age of 18 and is fresh back from a loan spell at St Etienne.

Saliba is thought to be the long-term plan on the right-hand side of Arsenal’s defence and, with positional rivals Calum Chambers (£4.5m) and Shkodran Mustafi (£5.0m) sidelined, may find himself starting a Premier League game sooner than thought.

Rob Holding is also available at £4.5m, but despite starting the Gunners’ last three league matches and the FA Cup final, was way down the pecking order until injuries stacked up at centre-half and may find himself struggling for game-time yet again.

Top-Half Understudies

All eyes will be on Nuno Espirito Santo in this summer’s transfer market, as any inactivity from Wolves could present us with a £4.5m-rated route into an impressive backline that kept clean sheets in nine of their final 14 games.

A serious injury to Jonny (£5.5m) has temporarily paved the way for Ruben Vinagre (£4.5m) to start at left wing-back but Wolves are reportedly in negotiations for Napoli’s Faouzi Ghoulam, which would swiftly nip the Vinagre bandwagon in the bud.

Teammate Ryan Bennett (£4.5m) was farmed out on loan by Santo in the second half of last season and may move on this summer.

Sheffield United’s one remaining sub-£5.0m defender, Jack Robinson (£4.5m), will again be reliant on left-sided centre-half Jack O’Connell (£5.0m) picking up an injury in order to be given game-time.

Leicester City’s quintet of £4.5m-rated FPL defenders are all back-ups when the first-choice options are fit but with Ricardo Pereira (£6.0m) not thought to be back until October, James Justin (£4.5m) could be given a stay of execution at right-back for a favourable run of games in the first five Gameweeks.

Luke Thomas (£4.5m) may also start the season on the left if Ben Chilwell (£5.5m) fails to recover from injury or departs for pastures new – although if that latter situation occurs, Brendan Rodgers will surely dip into the transfer market.

Jonny Evans‘ (£5.5m) three-match ban also temporarily opens up a spot at centre-half but the Leicester boss may very well reinforce his options at the back with only veteran Wes Morgan (£4.5m) and the untested Filip Benkovic (£4.5m) for cover.

Vinagre is the only £4.5m defender currently owned by more FPL managers than Charlie Taylor.

The Burnley left-back is one of five Clarets players who are available at this bargain price despite the fact that only Manchester City kept more clean sheets than Sean Dyche’s (15) side last season.

Four of those options are admittedly competing for two positions and, while the tussle for the right-back slot between Matthew Lowton (£4.5m) and Phil Bardsley (£4.5m) seems set to drag on, Taylor was mostly preferred over Erik Pieters (£4.5m) at left-back when he was fully fit.

Admittedly, there isn’t a great deal of attacking threat posed by these cheaper alternatives to James Tarkowski (£5.5m) and Nick Pope (£5.5m) and Burnley do blank in Gameweek 1.

But this is a tried-and-tested backline with little risk of rotation when things are going well, so plenty of us will be revisiting the Clarets from Gameweek 2 onwards.

The Best of the Rest

Walker-Peters has fixtures but as yet unproven pedigree as a budget FPL defender

Southampton are one of the sides we picked out for the right reasons in our first Frisking the Fixtures piece of 2020/21.

It could be that three of their starting back four are available for £4.5m in their Gameweek 1 clash with Crystal Palace, with new arrivals Kyle Walker-Peters and Mohammed Salisu joining Jan Bednarek at this price point.

Salisu could be competing with Bednarek for the left-sided centre-back role and, although the Pole could potentially move over to the right, perhaps the safest cheap route into the Saints backline – for now – would be Walker-Peters.

The former Spurs man impressed in the run-in after a slow start to his Saints career, although only four chances created from Gameweeks 31+ to 38+ was hardly a ringing endorsement of his FPL potential.

Jamaal Lascelles faces a race against time to be fit for the new season but, when available, the Newcastle centre-half is the most-nailed of the Magpies’ seven £4.5m FPL defenders – three of whom are right-backs.

Simply put, Lascelles starts every match when not on the sidelines.

The Magpies’ opening four matches are reasonably appealing but Steve Bruce’s recent change to a more attacking 4-2-3-1 has perhaps come at the expense of their usual solidity at the back, with only two clean sheets arriving in the post-lockdown era.

Crystal Palace are another team who have traditionally been a good bet for a clean sheet when playing the Premier League ‘also-rans’ and the Eagles have an excellent run of matches at Selhurst Park to begin the season with.

Three of their five £4.5m defenders are currently flagged in FPL, however, in the form of centre-backs Gary Cahill, Mamadou Sakho and James Tomkins.

Having ended the season with a patched-up defence and eight matches without a win, it may be another makeshift backline involving Joel Ward (£4.5m) and Martin Kelly (£4.5m) that is sent out to face Southampton in Gameweek 1.

There are eight Brighton defenders available at £4.5m but Dan Burn, Tariq Lamptey and Adam Webster are the three who had established themselves alongside Lewis Dunk (£5.0m) in Albion’s first-choice backline towards the season’s end.

Where new signing Joel Veltman, who is able to play at right-back and centre-half, and Leeds target Ben White fit into all this is another question, and Graham Potter’s unpredictable rotation will be enough for many FPL managers to bypass the defence and head straight for risk-free goalkeeper Mathew Ryan (£4.5m).

Aston Villa were much improved from a defensive perspective after the restart in June, with only three clubs conceding fewer big chances.

There’ll still be some mistrust at a side that conceded more goals than all bar Norwich City last season, however, and a Blank Gameweek 1 is another black mark against them.

Kortney Hause‘s (£4.5m) set-piece threat really caught the eye when he briefly made Dean Smith’s starting XI and the assist potential of Matt Targett (£4.5m), creator of more opportunities and ‘big chances’ in 2019/20 than any other defender in this piece, has been well-documented, but there’ll realistically be few takers.

Finally, few of us will be going near West Ham United’s £4.5m-rated defenders anytime soon with the Hammers bottom of our Season Ticker from Gameweeks 1-8.

That should give us plenty of time to see if Ryan Fredericks (£4.5m) or the £4.0m-related Johnson is David Moyes’ first-choice right-back ahead of the fixture swing in Gameweek 9.

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  1. Rohirrims
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Ryan - McCarthy
    TAA - Egan - Vinagre - Justin - Ferguson
    Salah - Aubameyang - Ziyech - ASM - Poveda-Ocampo
    Kane - Mitrovic - Davis

    ITB:- 2.5

    GW 2 - Ziyech - Fernandes/ Greenwood
    GW 3 - Auba - KdB/ Sterling
    GW 4 - Kane - Aguero/ Martial/ Werner
    GW 5 - WC

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Why WC in GW5 when you're making 3 transfers to fix the team beforehand?

    2. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.

      In theory looks fine, but...

      1. Old Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        btw - I didn't know that Shakin Stevens played for Fulchester!!!

        1. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Yup, Mick Hucknall too at one point

    3. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Planning like that rarely works, injuries or latest value form player changes it all.

  2. Simon69
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Che Adams expected to start up top with Ings? Excellent stats and came good towards the tail end of restart.

    1. Jonesfromthere
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Yes a 33 year old Long doesn’t pose much of a threat. Obafemi more of a super sub too

      1. Simon69
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Tempted. Poor start to last season but just signed from Championship so possibly still finding his feet.

    1. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Haha, what's that about

    2. hustler7
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Clashed with England fans and there are rumors he attacked a police officer...if you believe the Daily Mail.

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8650613/Manchester-United-capt-Harry-Maguire-arrested-Greek-island-Mykonos-attacking-police.html

      1. Simon69
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        There are rumours that a police officer was attacked... Not that Harry Maguire did it lol

  3. Reckoner.
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Pretty set on going without either Salah or Mane, TAA will be my Liverpool captain.

    Blanks for Man City & Man United 1st game out has thrown my plans up in the air but think this is pretty close to my final lineup:

    Alisson
    TAA | Doherty | Vinagre
    Aubameyang | Saint-Maximin | Armstrong | Soucek
    Kane | Werner | Jimenez

    Button | Greenwood | Ferguson | Johnson

    Midfield obviosuly looks light for GW1, Greenwood to come off the bench from GW2 along with KDB & Foden coming in for Aubameyang & Armstrong within a couple of weeks. Kane > Martial also planned at some point. That should free up a bit of funds to upgrade one of Ferguson or Johnson.

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I have double Liv def and Mo, but the plan is to lose him for Bruno pretty soon.
      You can probably get away with that mid for a week considering your forwards and Greenwood cheap enough to tuck up on bench.

    2. ow00019
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Don't mind the greenwood pick on the bench. If you think you can work it without salah fair play.
      I don't get the plan if those 3 cheap mids + 2 defensive double ups don't work out (which seems very plausible).
      Do you need that much money in attack? I think they're all good options but there are a few forwards around 6/6.5 who seem reasonable as well as free up cash.

    3. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Shrewdest long term team I have seen. Alisson will get save points at least after gw1. Plus benching greenwood and going on wolves early is clever strategy.
      Obviously plenty of thought put in it.

  4. dbeck
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    I see a lot posting about Stu Armstrong as a good option at 5.5m, any Soton fans with insight as I am just wondering how nailed he is.

    Assuming Soton set up with 2 attackers (Ings and Adams/Long/Obefemi) then that leaves 4 mid slots. Redmond on the left, JWP and Romeu/Reed in CM and Armstrong as the RM. But isnt there competition for that spot, Djenepo and Boufal are now both back from injury. Armstong only completed 90mins three times since the restart and was a benched for three of the nine games. Are we expecting with more competition for his position, his minutes to decrease? Is he the first trap of the season?

    1. Jonesfromthere
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I’ve ditched Armstrong, not sold on his minutes either. Get and bench Greenwood and use 4 at the back gw1 is my advice

    2. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Armstrong plays the 10, getting used to it too. Avoid if you're worried.

    3. Stormbringer22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      That is the reason why I dropped Armstrong for ASM as my 5th playing mid slot

      1. dbeck
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        very good, the author says Armstrong is nailed and a steel. Interesting he doesnt mention Reed in CM, had an excellent season on loan at Fulham and could cement a spot in the team. Could he be the best 4.5 mid guy?

        1. Ask Yourself
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          They’ll probably sign someone to play there, who could well be 4.5 anyway. Reed could be a sound 4.5 if/when he goes Fulham

          1. Gabbiadini
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            My understanding is someone will get signed to replace PEH and Reed will be sold to Fulham if the right offer is made, otherwise, he will be a squad option alongside Romeu.

      2. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Much appraciated.

    4. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      (saints fan)

      I don't think Boufal will provide competition for Armstrong, I'm not convinced Ralph trusts him to play our demanding pressing game. The potential worry is Djenepo but he prefers playing on the left. Based on the form towards the end of the season Redmond would be the player under fire, not Armstrong.

      1. dbeck
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        thanks buddy, good insight

    5. ow00019
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Might be able to glean something from pre season friendlies. Definitely looks to be able to provide value and I see no reason why his performances last season will have done him any harm.

  5. FPL_BUCCANEER
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    McCarthy
    Trent Vinagre Justin KWP
    Salah Auba Son Armstrong
    Jimmy/Ings Mitro

    Button Greenwood Ferguson Davis

    1.5ITB

    Then plans for Auba, Son - > KDB, Bruno

    1. Jonesfromthere
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Check post above re Armstrong

    2. Eastman
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Nice team. May be difficult to move Son on though due to Spurs' fixtures

      1. ow00019
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        If Son is providing good value whats the problem? If not he's at reasonable price point to get Pulisic, Ziyech, Rashford and at a stretch Fernandes so think he's a great pick.

  6. Mighty Banana
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    How have I only just noticed Sterling is 11.5 ...

    1. Jonesfromthere
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      No idea

    2. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Salah and Sterling are 1.0m cheaper than last season. Nice saving...

  7. Jonesfromthere
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Biggest dilemma; Che or Mitro?

    1. Stormbringer22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Mitrovic - more nailed and fixtures aren't too bad to begin with

    2. Mighty Banana
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Mitro is you want to be safe, feels like everyone has him so if he doesn't perform, you're good. Prob wait until closer to the start to decide on Che

    3. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Mitro - talisman and soft fixtures

      1. Fulchester's New Centr…
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        and pens

    4. dbeck
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I think Che will have a much better season and plays for a tried and tested good prem attacking team. His minutes do worry me slightly

      I am not sure how Fulham will set up, in the championship Parker got them playing high possession football, i'm not sure how that translates into the prem, but with Hector in cb i do beleive they are better equipped this season vs the last. Mitro will be on pens and very much feels like the safer pick out of the two

      1. Gabbiadini
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Adams will start but will be substituted off in almost every game. Often around 60-70 I would imagine for Long

      2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I am giving Che Adams a go lively young fast player looks like could be his breakthrough year. Plus the two Irish lads are only making up the numbers. Long's legs are gone - was huge part of his game. Obafembi has pace but no real football brain,
        Also I am going for Mitrovic too nicely priced, and on pens as you say. Either can be easily upgraded to Jimenez/Martial by cashing in on a 12m midfielder.

    5. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Going Mitro & Ings so Che is a non runner for me

    6. Werner Bremen
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Mitro all day

    7. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I spent a long time thinking about that. Have gone for Adams. My first instinct was Mitro has the fixtures, but only closer inspection they are mostly teamsthat defend well.

    8. ow00019
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Might depend on who your other players from those teams are (I'm looking at Armstrong) also on the off chance if you have alot of defenders you want to play facing one in the early gws (probably not the case but might sway you)

    9. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I might disagree. Every man and his dog is going to start Mitro. He is proven, yes, but he is not getting any younger and faster. He also plays for a team that simply may not be good enough. Adams has probably higher ceiling. Not owning Mitrovic isn't scary.

      1. Baps hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        When I wrote this everyone was saying Mitro, I meant to disagree with them, not with Max Effort 😉

  8. Eastman
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts on Traore?

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I love him. Will be huge in that city game too, will play OOP striker. With no European distractions he won’t have to worry about rotation too much either.

      1. Eastman
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks. Think he could be gold this season (see what I did there lol)

        1. Ask Yourself
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Hehe yes I do hope so x

    2. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Never misses a leg day (or any other day)

      1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Great fun to own when watching a wolves game, like a busy fast tank.

    3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      He's been eating his dinners

    4. Goonsquad245
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Poor FPL asset for me...

  9. Stormbringer22
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    If Kai signs for Chelsea and is priced at around the £8.0-£8.5 bracket, then we may as well not go for any of the 3 Chelsea midfield options to begin with and wait a few games to see who seems to come out on top. Ziyech, Pulisic, Havertz - all 3 of them could be gold, it is just a matter of timing as to when to bring them in.

    1. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Think I'll go for Ziyech from the get-go.

    2. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Makes sense.

      Or just get Werner and don't worry about it.

      1. Stormbringer22
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I have got Werner already. Doubled up with Ziyech and Werner

        1. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Also makes sense.

          I am going to leave Chelsea a couple of weeks before dipping my toe (I'll probably be at OR 4 mill at that point though)

    3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Ziyech & Werner should have a nice little set piece monopoly between them - hopefully Pens, DFKs & Corners

      Pulisic & Havertz win the pens & FK's, Ziyech & Werner slot them maybe...

  10. Roy Rovers
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Any thoughts on the below plan?

    Auba & Vardy become KDB & Aguero when required.

    McCarthy (Nyland)
    TAA VVD Doherty (Saliba & Ferguson)
    Salah Auba ASM Armstrong (Greenwood)
    Vardy Mitrovic (Davis)

    1. Stormbringer22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Only issue is you may be priced out and would require an additional sacrifice to allow those transfers

      1. Roy Rovers
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah, possible. I don’t know if those players that blank GW1 have their prices locked??

        1. Stormbringer22
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Not sure, would be good if they did, but then makes it very casual-friendly. Would be better if the prices were not locked

        2. Roy Rovers
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Might have to downgrade one of VVD or Doherty.

        3. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Not flagged (yet) so I would guess not.

  11. farmerfat
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Why is everyone so keen on Armstrong at 5.5 but no love for JWP at 6?

    1. dbeck
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      see my post above re Armstrong, i'm looking a JWP or West Brom Pereira at that price

    2. Stormbringer22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      0.5£ goes a long way this early when planning your team

      1. farmerfat
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah but JWP has MUCH better change to get points, Armstrong is very Meh , in my opinion

        1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I agree didn't JWP go on a mini run of FK's goals and assists last season pre lockdown?

    3. Sune
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      JWP is a great option imo.

    4. 3 A
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Jwp is good but not producing what Armstrong produce.

      Save 0.5 too.

    5. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Not my words, from link I posted above.

      Armstrong

      I came in to this season thinking if Armstrong was 6.5m I would have him. He is Southamptons furthest forward midfielder, had an excellent post lockdown haul (2 goals and 3 assists in 8 games) and over the course of the season looked very talented. He then was priced at 5.5m. For me this is daylight robbery. Since the reshuffle in November (see above) he got 5 goals and 4 assists in 16 starts. Across the season Armstrong's stats of 0.47 actual g+a per 90 are better than Grealish (0.41), Zaha (0.27), Tielemans (0.28), and Maddison (0.377). Only including games from after the November reshuffle when Armstrong started playing regularly in his "number 10 on the right" role, Armstrong has a actual g+a per 90 of 0.60, this beats out Richarlison (0.41) and Mount (0.41).

      He overperformed his xG by 2.4 and his xA by 1.6. This could suggest next season he reverts to mean, or that he is a talented finisher and has the luxury of playing in a team with Danny Ings who is one of the biggest overperformers of xG in the league.

      You will notice in this comparison I have been comparing to the likes of Richarlison, Maddison, Zaha and Grealish. This is because this is where Armstrongs' stats are. If you compare him to ASM (0.37), Almiron (0.17), Soucek (0.25) or JWP (0.23) Amstrong (0.49 or 0.60 in post Nov period) blows them all away. He should be priced with these stats at about 7.5-8.5m and is at 5.5m. He could be the biggest steal in FPL if he keeps up these stats.

      The only concern is if Djenepo starts to take minutes once fit, although this seems unlikely to me as Armstrong is key to the way we play. Or that the 1704 mins he played (1353 post Nov) are not a sufficient sample size and he regresses (also potentially suggested by xG and xA), this I cannot comment on.

      Verdict

      Get Armstrong in your team!

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        What was the story with his sporadic gametime - is he nailed?

        He only started 6 games out of the 10 games post restart... and only started 14 games out Southampton's last 25 league games overall..

        1. Gabbiadini
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Few niggles towards the end of the season so he had to rest.
          Games he missed earlier in the season were due to not being fully equipped to play Ralph's system, now viewed as a critical player that the manager has great confidence in.

    6. AuFeld
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Right now, both are risky is my opinion. Armstrong's game time is not certain, but overperforms. JWP's game time looks pretty certain, underperforms, and has set pieces. If you think Armstrong will get more playing time, he'll outperform his price point. If you think JWP gets a little more quality/luck, he'll outperform his price point. What do you think?

      1. Gabbiadini
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I would be more interested in JWP if he was on penalties. Took a couple last season but Ings finished with them.

      2. farmerfat
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I just prefer JWP for extra 0.5, hes on free kicks and corners, sometimes bangs in a worldy

  12. Flynny
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    How would you fill in the gaps here please

    Mccarthy nyland
    Taa justin vinagre saliba ferguson
    Salah auba xx asm xxx
    Xxx Werner mitro

    A.....kane armstrong soucek

    B.....ings greenwood soucek (bench greenwood play soucek gw1)

    C.....son greenwood 4.5m forward

    Thanks

    1. Stormbringer22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Does C leave you a spare £0.5 itb?

      1. Flynny
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yes...so does B

    2. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      C I think

      1. Flynny
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks

  13. Pegboy
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    How nailed is Armstrong at Southampton?

    1. Pegboy
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Ignore. Just seen the post above

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Not nailed like JWP but will start 3/4 or 4/5 if you will. Pressing game requires some rest.

      1. Pegboy
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers. If I do go with a 5.5 looks like being ASM.

        1. Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Think he is pretty nailed and should tick over nicely

    3. Stormbringer22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A lot of debate on this - not very nailed seems to be the consensus

      1. Gabbiadini
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Armstrong is nailed with an odd rest when required due to niggles. lock and throw away the key.

  14. Miguel Sanchez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Who do you think will start GW1 in goal for Arsenal?

    A) Leno
    B) Martinez

    1. 3 A
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Wait until Com Shield

    2. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      CS will tell us but I’d be surprised if Martínez doesn’t move away to another European club to be their number 1

      1. Nightcrawler
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yes he seems a lot better than many of the bottom half team keepers

  15. King Kohli
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    If the Manchester clubs didn't have a blank Gw1, which assets from those clubs would you have started with?

    1. Collie01
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      KdB and Greenwood.

    2. Sune
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Rashford and Sterling

    3. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Bruno, Shaw, Martial

    4. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      KDB Bruno Greenwood and possibly one of Mahrez/Foden

    5. Dr. Rog
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      KdB & Greenwood.
      And i would be tempted by Sterling possibly as well.

    6. dbeck
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Sterling Foden and Martial

    7. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      KDB, Bruno, Greenwood, maybe a punt on Sterling

    8. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      KDB, Bruno & (probably) Greenwood

    9. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      KDB, Martial & Fernandes

    10. Goonsquad245
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      If they had their postponed fixtures instead?

      Probably Sterling and Rashford.

  16. Eastman
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Ings or Jimmy?

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Ings

    2. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Not mad keen on either in fairness. Jimmy is a slight favourite because there is a strong argument to have 3 SOU players elsewhere

      1. Dr. Rog
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Jimmy - the bank of fixtures 3-7 is worth targeting.
        And he has shown before he is somewhat fixture proof anyway.

    3. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Jimenez

    4. Sune
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Jimmy

    5. Werner Bremen
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Ingsy

    6. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Jim, they say he is a machine

    7. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Probably both

      Ings from the start, then Mitro > Jimmy for Wolves GW4 fixture run

    8. aapoman
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      ings

  17. Dr. Rog
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    McCarthy 4
    TAA Bavies _____ Vinagre 4
    Salah Auba Greenwood Soucek 4.5
    _____ Jimmy Mitro

    A) Saliba & Kane
    B) Tierney, Werner

    with idea to bring in Doherty around wk3 anyway (auba --> kdb/sterling is a given).

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B seems safer

  18. Simon69
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    When are preseason games starting? Struggling to find info.

  19. Nightcrawler
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Any truth in robertson to city rumours?? City given up on zinchenko and cancelo not a natural left back

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Sounds like rubbish to me

    2. Zimo
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Lol what

    3. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah can see that with TAA double swoop happening

    4. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      We'd all be absolutely amazed if that happened.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Surprise me. Tell me this comes from The S*N, to which Liverpool famously reveals all its exclusives.

    5. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Think they’re better off using the funds on VVD, he’ll be a perfect partner for Laporte

    6. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Heard they are throwing in Mo too

  20. bejzu
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    mane vs salah?

    1. aapoman
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Salah

    2. Nightcrawler
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Malah

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Sane

    3. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Malala?

  21. aapoman
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Really pleased with this one. thoughts?

    McCarthy
    TAA Egan Vinagre Justin
    Salah Auba Son Armstrong
    Werner Ings

    4.0; 4.5 def, 4.5 mid, 4.0 def

    1. aapoman
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      the 4.5 def on the bench should be 4.5 fwd...

    2. dbeck
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I think i'd want a bench 4.5 def guy to rotate with Justin and Egan for the two spots. I am not sure how you get there, perhaps Ings or Son down

      1. aapoman
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        blah what am i doing... bench is actually:

        4.5 def, 4.5 mid, 4.5 fwd.

        1. dbeck
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          cool looks good then

  22. Siva Mohan
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    West Ham United vs Bournemouth pre-season friendly will be played at London Stadium on Saturday, September 5 (3pm)

  23. diesel001
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    If you are targeting players against rubbish teams (defined as Villa, Brighton, Palace, Fulham, Leeds, WBA, West Ham) for the captaincy:

    GW1: Salah (LEE), Mane (LEE), Auba (ful)
    GW2: Fernandes (CPL), Martial (CPL), Auba (WHM)
    GW3: Werner (wba), Fernandes (bha), Martial (bha)
    GW4: Werner (CPL), Salah (avl), Mane (avl), Sterling (lee), KDB (lee)
    GW5: Kane (WHM)
    GW6: Sterling (whm), KDB (whm)
    GW7: Salah (WHM), Mane (WHM) Kane (BHA)
    GW8: Auba (AVL), Kane (wba)
    GW9: Auba (lee)
    GW10: Salah (bha), Mane (bha)
    GW11: Werner (LEE), Sterling (FUL), KDB (FUL), Fernandes (whm), Martial (whm)
    GW12: Salah (ful), Mane (ful), Kane (cpl)
    GW13: Sterling (WBA), KDB (WBA)

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Avoiding Salah till GW6 can work

    2. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Kane GW5-8 could be an absolute gold mine.

      1. Ask Yourself
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Starting with martial, moving to kane for 5-8, then moving back is the latest plan after seeing this

      2. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I'm sorted for GW1-4. No need to plan further at this stage.

    3. SADIO SANÉ
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      yeah GW3 and 5 are kinda awkward - I'm thinking a City player vs (LEI) & (ARS)

      1. Goonsquad245
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Salah has ARS in GW3....

    4. LangerznMash
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      How very dare you put Leeds in that list!

      1. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        You lost Ben White!

    5. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      ERROR: I forgot:

      GW1: Werner (bha)

  24. Swills
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    RMT

    Ryan (Nyland)
    TAA B.Davies Vinagre Justin (Ferguson)
    Salah Aub Son Ziyech (5.0)
    Werner Mitrovic (Davis)

    GW2 Aub - KDB

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Solid

  25. Holmes
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    It's so tough to build a decent BB team now, wonder what will happen in later stage, sigh...

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I've just amount got one I like but it's pretty aggressive with defensive double ups on Liverpool, Southampton and Wolves with a Chelsea triple up in attack and West Ham double up. If it comes off I am looking at OR 1 GW 1

      1. Fulchester's New Centr…
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Go on, you know you want to

  26. Werner Bremen
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    How is Mitro still at Fulham, he's a great player

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      For the Championship

    2. Werner Bremen
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Great

  27. LangerznMash
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Choose one for GW1 only. Will be transferred out for Bruno GW2.
    A) Son (at home vs Everton)
    B) Pepe (away to Fulham)
    C) Maddison or Barnes (away to WBA)
    D) Bowen or Anderson (at home vs Newcastle)

    If Pepe start CS then I might take one last punt on him (he owes me from last season!)

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A

    2. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Son, unless Pepe does something in the CommieSh

    3. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Pepe

    4. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Easy A

    5. LangerznMash
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      cheers

    6. Goonsquad245
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Son, but I'd consider just starting with Bruno and benching him if there's no chance you'll keep.

    7. beetlejuice
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Salah

      1. LangerznMash
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Salah costs more than Bruno so won't work in this scenario.

  28. farmerfat
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Ings or JVards for the first 2?

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Vardy

    2. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Jamie - could be gold if he fires and you get on him early & if it doesn't work out, always easier to downgrade (in terms of price)

    3. Don Kloppeone
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      If it’s an early punt then Vardy. Ings is a longer term pick

  29. Don Kloppeone
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    I don’t know why because he keeps delivering, but I’ve never been a fan of Auba in my teams but with the need to bring in MCI/MUN mids his price point makes him pretty unavoidable imo. With that said, this is what I’m on atm. What do you reckon? Any improvements you’d make?

    0itb
    McCarthy
    TAA, VVD, Doherty, Vinagre
    Salah, Auba, Son, Armstrong
    Werner, Mitro
    (Nyland) (Stephens, Ferguson, Davis)

    Main issue I see for now is the weakness of the bench...

    Cheers

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Think you have cracked it Don - 1 playing bencher should be bOK for first few weeks

      1. Don Kloppeone
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        It feels decent as a start mate doesn’t it? The headache will be which swaps to make for the Manchester lads...

        1. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I think a spell of Salahlessness might be on the cards and if Greenwood is nailed, easy enough to get in too.

    2. ow00019
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I have something similar but less in defence. I had trent/Robbo double up last season and got very burned on CS. Think with the short pre season there could be a good argument to say there won't be alot of CS's to start but prepared to eat my words.