The Promoted

What to expect from Leeds United manager Marcelo Bielsa in FPL

FPL managers are set for entertainment when Marcelo Bielsa finally arrives in the top-flight of English football.

The Leeds United manager joins the Premier League heralded as an unprecedented individual, his personality likely to impact your FPL team at some point in the 2020/21 season.

With this piece, we are launching our series of articles on The Promoted, so that the Fantasy community is well-prepared for the latest sides to join FPL.

We are starting with El Loco, as the Leeds boss is affectionately known and, later in the week we will assess the Championship winners’ defensive and attacking underlying statistics to pick out the early contenders for inclusion in our squads.

To help us with our research, we have brought in the expertise of Beren Cross, a journalist for LeedsLive who has covered United extensively during Bielsa’s time at the club.

What is Bielsa’s background?

Bielsa is considered to be one of the most enigmatic characters in world football after three decades of management under his belt, including spells with Argentina and Chile’s national teams, Athletic Bilbao, Marseille, Lazio and Lille.

The Leeds United job is his first in England but the Argentinian is well-known on the world stage, reportedly a huge influence on some of the biggest coaches on the Premier League scene, including one Pep Guardiola.

“My admiration for Marcelo Bielsa is huge. For me, he’s the best coach in the world.” – Pep Guardiola

“He’s one of the best managers in the world. And he’s like my father.” – Mauricio Pochettino

During his time as a football manager, Bielsa has earned a reputation for exceptional levels of attention to detail. Going into every game, he will have mapped out potential solutions to any situation that could ensue on the field.

“If players weren’t human, I’d never lose.” – Marcelo Bielsa

“Playing in a Bielsa side is a bit like being in the military. It’s tactics, tactics, tactics and fitness.” – Mateusz Klich

Nothing encapsulates Bielsa’s attention to detail, or demeanour better than the already notorious incident of Spygate.

Always known as a man dedicated to in-depth analysis of his opponents’ tactics, it was discovered in January 2019, that the Leeds manager had sent coaches to spy on Derby Country’s training sessions ahead of a key Championship clash.

However, instead of denying the allegations, Bielsa admitted spying on Derby, as well as every other opponent Leeds had faced that season.

What followed was an hour-long press conference, which Beren Cross attended, in which Bielsa gave a PowerPoint presentation on how he profiles upcoming opposition. Such is the meticulousness of his research and analysis, the conclusion of this unprecedented press briefing was that Bielsa did not need to spy on other clubs to know how to beat them.

Leeds were then fined £200,000 for their involvement in the scandal but, summing up Bielsa’s character perfectly, he insisted on paying the fee out of his own pocket.

Having Bielsa in the Premier League is sure to add a new level of drama for the neutral fans, but how will it impact FPL? Let’s have a closer look…

What style of football does Bielsa use?

To get an accurate fix on the way Leeds are likely to set-up their stall in the Premier League, we asked Beren Cross what style of football Bielsa likes to use.

It certainly appears that his side will make matches entertaining for fans next season, which could result in goals at both ends of the pitch.

“The nearest tactical style your readers will be able to compare it to is Pep Guardiola’s City set-up. United press high, they mark man-to-man across the pitch, a feature many opposition managers pointed out as being unique in the Championship last season. The Whites are renowned for being the fittest team in the league. Described as machines by some in the way they relentlessly press and harry. Many winners came late in matches while opposition tired and they kept going until the bitter end.” – Beren Cross

Those already trying to get an accurate fix on Leeds’ line-ups for 2019/20, should start with their regularly used formations, especially as they are known for a somewhat changeable shape.

“It’s very fluid, but the simplest description would be a 4-1-4-1 with the wingers and full-backs pushing up to create a 3-3-1-3 at times. It is something he sticks to a lot, but the formation is generally determined by how many strikers the opposition employ. If it’s one striker they go 4-1-4-1 and if it’s two strikers, they go 3-3-1-3.” – Beren Cross

As for whether the personnel within these systems can be relied upon for starts, it seems as though Leeds could come into the Premier League to match the likes of Burnley or Wolves for high number of reliable starters.

As you have already seen, Bielsa’s style of management is unique so the fact that his players are attuned to this will go a long way to helping them start games regularly in the top-flight.

“Leeds are a very settled side. Bielsa only tends to change the team for suspensions and injuries, even during poor runs of form. They are so fit, fatigue is rarely an issue. The aforementioned Bamford would go 10 matches without a goal in the Championship and not be dropped, much to many fans’ dismay. However, Bielsa is loyal and his players run through brick walls for him.” – Beren Cross

How does Bielsa handle the press?

Press conferences form a big part of how Fantasy managers pick their team, so it is always important to assess what role Bielsa will play in that.

Are Leeds going to be a team we can rely on for accurate injury information, or will Bielsa replace Eddie Howe as the Premier League’s non-committal team news pedaller?

“Bielsa is cordial with the press, but he is a private man. He does not grant any one-to-one interviews. He treats every journalist the same and gives them all a chance to ask their questions in press conferences. He is very forthcoming with injury news. There was a period, in his first season, Bielsa would name the starting XI in press conferences, much to supporters’ frustrations. He has grown out of that now, but is very honest about injuries and who is likely to replace outgoing personnel.” – Beren Cross

Keep an eye out for our articles on Leeds’ defence and attack later this week and, for more detail on United for the 2020/21 season, make sure to follow Leeds United Live on Twitter.

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768 Comments Post a Comment
  1. HammersXI
    • 7 Years
    1 month, 16 days ago

    Finally looking forward to having Leeds articles in this site! Was hoping you guys might get Phil Hay instead-but Beren Cross has been covering us for years!

    I think the main takeaway of this article is this: "“Leeds are a very settled side. Bielsa only tends to change the team for suspensions and injuries, even during poor runs of form. They are so fit, fatigue is rarely an issue. The aforementioned Bamford would go 10 matches without a goal in the Championship and not be dropped, much to many fans’ dismay. However, Bielsa is loyal and his players run through brick walls for him.”

    I don't see much rotation from Leeds this season based on our last 2 seasons. Bielsa used to leak team news out early in the first season, but he was advised not to thereafter.

    1. Jafalad
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 month, 16 days ago

      I'm a little surprised that you were not asked to be part of this article, Leedsxi.

      At least Munday had the good sense to go to a club specialist. Everyone will need three Leeds next season. Leeds are a top 6 club.

      1. HammersXI
        • 7 Years
        1 month, 16 days ago

        Yeah Beren is well respected as a journalist covering Leeds for years. But tbh understanding Bielsa is just one tiny part of the puzzle that teams are going to face next season.

        I think they would prefer having an expert POV over a fan's one? I'm looking forward to see the team breakdown tbh. I won't say we are a top 6 club just yet. But I feel if the transfers are done right, we should be safe midtable next season and build on from there.

        We have been away for way too long.

        1. Jafalad
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          1 month, 16 days ago

          The transfers are going to be key. At the moment, Leeds seem to be linked with a new player every day.

          I'd like to see Ben White stay and a new forward. It is going to be interesting if Brentford do not go up - their front three will attract a lot of attention.

          1. HammersXI
            • 7 Years
            1 month, 16 days ago

            It's slightly worrying times now tbh. We know that the season is 5 weeks away and usually Bielsa demands 8 weeks for new recruits to get used to his system.

            Yes, they seemed to be linked to the whole world and I'm not even sure right now which is fiction tbh. It looks like we need 2 x CB 1 x CM 1 x CAM 1 x GK 1 x ST. Whether we can get the whole bunch at 45m is another thing all together.

            Ben White is great for sure, but I feel that Brighton will price us out of a move because we will be fighting with them right at the end. If no other club wants him then it will get interesting. He is a sure starter for us, and with Euros coming what better way to get a run out weekly and chase an international call up. He isn't gg to ever get that in any top 6 team, let alone Brighton.

            Honestly, I want Fulham to win (selfishly) because I want to see Benhrama in Leeds. Not too bothered about the other 2, getting 1 would be gold.

  2. Offs!de
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    1 month, 16 days ago

    Looking forward to more info

    1. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      1 month, 16 days ago

      Hammerski has already given loads - see hot topics. But will be good to have the journo supplement that.

  3. jk_footyfan
    • 1 Year
    1 month, 16 days ago

    When would the fixtures be released for 2020-21 season?

    1. Amey
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 16 days ago

      21 August according to many

      1. superstars
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        so unfortunately game cannot launch till after the fixtures have been released it guess...long wait...

        1. Amey
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Yep
          What is the hurry though 🙂
          Take rest.
          It's going to be another long season !

          1. Old Man
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            1 month, 15 days ago

            We'll know a bit more about who we can buy after tonight's match. I'd like to see Brentford do it but I have a sneaky feeling that Fulham will prevail. Mitrovic or Benrahma. Who do you fancy?

            1. Amey
              • 1 Year
              1 month, 15 days ago

              Mitro just because he's done it previously.
              I have no knowledge about Championship tbh. Will tale calls from people i trust here 🙂

              1. HammersXI
                • 7 Years
                1 month, 15 days ago

                In theory Brentford deserves it more. But I'm selfish in saying I want Fulham to win so that we can get their priced assets.

                1. Amey
                  • 1 Year
                  1 month, 15 days ago

                  Heard here that Brentford are more attacking minded team.
                  We'll get our 6.5m striker anyways 😉

            2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              1 month, 15 days ago

              Benrahma's more of Brentford's winger/assist man isn't he? I think Ollie Watkins is their equivalent of Mitro...

              Both joint top scorers in the championship with 26 goals too

              Safe to say I'll think about starting with whichever one of them comes up at 6.5

              1. HammersXI
                • 7 Years
                1 month, 15 days ago

                Benrahma plays on the wing in a 4-3-3 system but changes positions with Watkins during the game. They both have tons of goals and assists together this season. Mbeumo is another under the radar option in their BWM front line.

              2. Andy_Social
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                1 month, 15 days ago

                Last season Pukki started at 6.5, but no Sheff Utd or Villa striker was over 6m. As a play-off promotee, I'd like to think a Brentford striker won't be more than 6.0. Hope so as I have a beady eye on them!

              3. MosF94
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 1 Year
                1 month, 15 days ago

                Benrahma has 17 goals 9 assists this season - 10 goals 14 assists the season before

                1. Nomar
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  1 month, 15 days ago

                  That's the boy to go for.

            3. GoodFella93
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 3 Years
              1 month, 15 days ago

              As a Leeds United sufferer in this league I make Fulham favourites in a 50/50 toss up. Bookies have it wrong similarly to FA cup, this is a top up.

              Fulham have nothing to lose, they’ve been resigned to the play off since the 3-0 defeat to Leeds (in which Fulham dominated the first half). They’ve got the experience and less pressure.

              If Brentford go up I don’t expect anything for Leeds. If Fulham go up Leeds sigh Benrama and will also go for Ollie Watkins. That’d would make Leeds bloody exciting for FPL.

  4. Chelsea91
    • 1 Year
    1 month, 15 days ago

    Might go for this . Waiting for new season.

    Pope,MC Carthy
    Taa,Robbo,Doherty,Lamptey,Tierney
    Salah,Kdb,Sterling,Bruno,Pulisic
    Ings,Jimmy,Wood/Ayew

    1. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 15 days ago

      A superfical glance and I reckon you're 5 million overspent. Great squad though!!

      1. Chelsea91
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        will try to make it to 100million , downgrade somewhere

      2. Amey
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        5 ?
        It is 110m at least !

    2. Karan14
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 15 days ago

      You would need to downgrade one of those premium mids to a 4.5m to afford that team.

      1. Chelsea91
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        i think sterling mate will be downgrade.

      2. MosF94
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Still wouldn't be affordable, or even close

    3. Dash4
        1 month, 15 days ago

        ..has the budget been increased to £120M ?

        1. Amey
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 15 days ago

          You didn't receive the rich uncle chip ?

          1. Rambo The XVIth
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            1 month, 15 days ago

            Rich uncle chip haha

      • ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        You missed Messi and Ronaldo

      • Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        5.5, 5.0
        7.5, 7.0, 6.5, 4.5, 5.5
        12.5, 12.0, 11.5, 10.5, 9.0
        8.5, 8.5, 7.0/6.0

        Estimate 121.0 with Wood, or 120.0 with Ayew

        Get the trimming knife out 🙂

      • Amey
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        5.5 /4.5
        7.5/ 7.0/ 6.5 /4.5 /5.5
        12.5/12/11/10.5/9
        8/8.5/6.5

        That is 119m£ squad !!

        1. Andy_Social
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          You're all mean. That squad's never more than 118.5 🙂

      • IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        There will be price rises unless you didn't know

      • The Rumour Mill
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        I would reduce your bench players to much cheaper for a start, no need to have that much of your budget sat on your bench, it's inefficient. I think you're looking at the right sort of players for the starting 11 though 🙂

      • Lindelol
        • 2 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        I guess you should use your full 150 million so do the following. No point in keeping 25 £ in the bank
        ings to auba
        jimmy to Aguero
        wood to Kane

    4. Amey
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 15 days ago

      I know it is useless. But having seen post's above I can't resist posting this 😀

      4.5 / 4.0 (=8.5)
      Taa Robbo Doherty 4.5 4.0 (= 29.5)
      KDB Bruno Pulisc 6 5.5 (= 43)
      Jimenez Adams 4.5 (= 19)

      This looks okay'ish i guess ...

      1. Amey
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        4.5m Defender & 6m Midfielder can be VVD & cheap Midfielder as well by stripping money from somewhere

        1. Andy_Social
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          I got something very similar

          4.5/4.0 (8.5)
          TAA, VVD, Robbo, 4.5, 4.0 (30.5)
          KDB, Bruno, Pulisic, Greenwood, 5m (42)
          Ings, 6m, 5m (20)

          101.0. Might get lucky, I guess.

          1. Amey
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 15 days ago

            Yeah
            I really hope Greenwood isn't first choice next season.
            😉

            1. Andy_Social
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              1 month, 15 days ago

              I'm assuming that, otherwise that midfield won't be viable.

              1. Amey
                • 1 Year
                1 month, 15 days ago

                Sancho to United is the flavour of the transfer window.
                Let's see ...

          2. Gringo Kid
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 2 Years
            1 month, 15 days ago

            Greenwood is waste of ManU spot

            1. Amey
              • 1 Year
              1 month, 15 days ago

              Not if United don't sign a first choice RW this summer

          3. MosF94
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 15 days ago

            Think you could get lucky with the defence - TAA 7.5, Robbo 7, VVD 6 would put you at 29.5 for the back 5. You might have slightly underpriced the mids, though. But also Ings might be 8 or 8.5 instead of 9. Though Greenwood probably won't be a consistent starter yet... Overall, looks pretty good for the moment at least

      2. Christina.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        I have just unblocked you 5 mins ago. Now this nonsense.
        😉

        1. Amey
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 15 days ago

          😀
          Expected !
          I couldn't Resist myself after watching people making drafts ....

      3. Chelsea91
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        might go 3-5-2 always for new season

        1. Amey
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 15 days ago

          If a cheap Striker happens to emerge we might change the plans

          1. Andy_Social
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            1 month, 15 days ago

            What Hedge is suggesting is starting off with 4 premium defenders, eg TAA, Robbo, Laporte, Doherty and a cheap (say 5.5m) striker. When that budget striker emerges, it's an easy 2FT to switch a premium defender and duff cheap striker for the new bandwagon and a reasonable 4.5 defender.

            1. Amey
              • 1 Year
              1 month, 15 days ago

              Agreed with that tbh.
              Laporte can be VVD/Azpi too.

              1. Andy_Social
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                1 month, 15 days ago

                Yeh, the key is the price point - a defender that you can bear to sell when the hidden gem emerges.

      4. SHOOTER MCGINN
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Using FanTeam currently got:

        Lloris (4.0)
        TAA VVD Doh Tierney (4.0)
        Salah Sterling Bruno Mount (4.5)
        Ayew Adams (4.0)

        4 at the back could work

        1. Amey
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 15 days ago

          You're right ... 4 atb can be a good option

      5. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        I'm liking something big at the back as well - but maybe 4-3-3 helps get a lot of quality into the XI

        4.5, 4.0
        TAA, VVD, Laporte, 4.5, 4.5
        KDB, Bruno, Soucek-[5.5],4.5, 4.5
        Ings-[8.0], Mitro/Watkins-[6.5], Werner/Vardy/Kane/Kun-[~10.5]

        I think it comes down to whether you want 3 captains from [Salah, Mane, Sterling, Auba, KDB, Bruno] - or are comfortable going with only two of those six guys

        The problem is - Are elite strikers going to be a thing? Hard to know - if Kane, Kun, Werner, Vardy are firing then its tricky - as there's really only 10.0 for that third forward slot, rather than the 11.0 that might be needed there

        That slot/budget might be better moved back into midfield

        1. Amey
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 15 days ago

          2 bug hitters + Pulisc is where my mind is atm

        2. Amey
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Cheap Strikers availability would be the key

        3. Rasping Drive
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Are you not worried about how the start of last season panned out? Many went big at the back and light up top but then had to dismantle their squads when the likes of Auba and Kun started firing.

          1. Andy_Social
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            1 month, 15 days ago

            Alisson getting crocked and replaced by Adrian was a significant, unlikely to be repeated, factor.

      6. FOO FIGHTER
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        That is going to be the template.

        1. FOO FIGHTER
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Well more the midfield you have put down.

          1. Amey
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 15 days ago

            Yep

      7. waltzingmatildas
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Couldn't help myself either!
        Just tried this on fanteam:
        Henderson
        TAA VVD Boly Davies
        KDB Bruno Pulisic Soucek
        Jimenez Ings
        Meslier Hause Bissouma Connolly

        I think I'd be happy if I could afford that on FPL

        1. Amey
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 15 days ago

          You should be able to afford that mate. If i go 4 atb. Definitely won't go with Boly & Davies though. So little upside.

          Doherty, even Aurier are so attacking minded

          1. waltzingmatildas
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            1 month, 15 days ago

            Hmm, yeah would definitely prefer Doherty. Options though

        2. Andy_Social
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Hendo - if back-up to Dave then no.
          Boly would be decent as a safe season-keeper if you don't want to spend on a premium. But a Mou defender - not for me.
          Soucek - I'm looking at him to be a budget bargain at that price-point.
          Dunno what fanteam is but it looks a decent squad for FPL

      8. MosF94
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        This looks pretty good and the prices look viable

        1. Amey
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Yeah
          Can go 4 atb too if not enough options available cheap in the attack. But there are always

    5. Herman Toothrot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      1 month, 15 days ago

      Do OPTA list stats of the players who have asthma?

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53643017

      1. Amey
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        How TF are they going to decide who is coughing deliberately 😀

        1. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
          • 5 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Same way they decide if someone kicks someone deliberately, or elbows someone deliberately, etc.

          1. Amey
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 15 days ago

            VAR for coughing on someone !!

            How will ref point at the exact foul committed, by coughing himself ?
            😛

        2. Andy_Social
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Equivalent of spitting in someone's face. You've seen the "viral" Karen videos!

          1. Amey
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 15 days ago

            I have
            Disgrace to human race

          2. Corgzzzz
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            1 month, 15 days ago

            I have seen the video and wished I had not....disgusting

        3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Have they any examples of where this has happened in the past is perhaps the more relevant question

          Can they show us examples of players who would have been sent off for this

      2. Azathoth
        • 6 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        What if they fart?

        1. Amey
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Pat on the butt by ref as a sign of warning !

      3. FOO FIGHTER
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        This whole thing getting absolutely ridiculous!

        1. Fantasy Gold
          • 6 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          What kind of person would cough on someone else deliberately is the question

          1. Amey
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 15 days ago

            I can show you a video of one of a famous CB & pundit spitting on others car 😛

            Bdw, there are people who do that as said above, just to show how cool they are and underrate COVID

        2. Zim0
          • 2 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Not really. If you're coughing on someone on purpose during these times then its basically assault

          1. Fantasy Gold
            • 6 Years
            1 month, 15 days ago

            Agreed

    6. noquarternt
      • 5 Years
      1 month, 15 days ago

      Remember the hype about Depay, Keita, Morata, and countless others guys. Sancho could be the new Henry/Suarez, but there are plenty of burst bubbles about to keep your heads on.

      1. Karan14
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Depay, Keita & Morata were no where close to Sancho's level.

        1. Andy_Social
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Shevchenko, Veron.
          He'll prob be monster, but I shy away from newbies with no PL experience until I've seen a couple of games. A WC option, along with Werner for me.

      2. Amey
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        I agree with your point. But your examples aren't good IMO considering Sancho aura atm.

        Depay was LVG countryman so he chose him (only that WC performance made him do that too i guess). Still gutted United refused Bobby that summer over Depay bdw !!

        Morata is overrated because of Madrid boy. Keita has potential to be a successful one. He didn't feature at all because he wasn't what Klopp wanted i guess ??

        Correct examples would be De Maria to United, Sanchez to United, Hamesh ( 😛 ) to RM i.e. most of them all are maybe square peg bought to fill a round hole.

        There is no guarantee that Sancho if comes to United will be a successful transfer. But at least he's what United want, a RW. Fit well in OGD mould too being Young/fast/English ...

      3. noquarternt
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        The hype behind those three was incredible pre season, other players like Falcao got it as well.

        Maybe not the best example but the hype here is like a dot com boom stock. Yes he could be Google, but he could also be Pets.com

      4. Berbs
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Depay is smashing it and Keita is fantastic. Sometimes moves don't work out for other reasons.

      5. Soto Ayam
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        I watched a few YouTube clips, and although that's no fair way to judge him, all I could see was how good the blond striker was; Haaland.

    7. RECKLESS
      • 7 Years
      1 month, 15 days ago

      Guys do you also think Jadon Sancho is overrated because of ENglish Media? I mean some saying he is better than Sterling and will be ballon dor winner in 5 years lol. I have seen some clips albeit few and he seems good at showboating and decisive finish. But just 20 so lot of things to go wrong as well

      1. Zim0
        • 2 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        17 goals and 17 assists in 2286 minutes played. U tell me.

      2. FOO FIGHTER
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        The price tag is normally an issue.

        Many players have failed as expectation and carrying the fee on their shoulders.

        Highest UTD earner as well, money goes to the head.

        Will be interesting to see how it pans out.

        1. Zim0
          • 2 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          No De Geas highest earner i think. Then Rashford and Pogba. Not 100% about this though.

          1. FOO FIGHTER
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 15 days ago

            Sancho will likely be 'one' of their highest earners.

      3. Brosstan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        He's definitely better than Sterling. If he's a better FPL asset is another discussion

      4. Amey
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        He will be overrated by English media for sure unless he signs for United. Then every wrong step he makes he'll be scrutinized as hell 🙂
        Life of a young emerging English talent sadly.

      5. el polako
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Youtube clips can make anyone look like new footballing god but I watched fair share of Bundesliga last season (cuz of Poles playing there) and think that youg Jadon under right manager (Klopp would be the one IMO) can easily turn out to be better player than Sterling.

      6. noquarternt
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        I think there’s a huge bias to dream of an English star. Someone like Wilshere for example. Not on the same scale but people are acting like Sancho is the new Messi/Ronaldo.

        1. el polako
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          He is young, exciting playing for massive club and clocking excellent numbers - no wonder people see a future star in him.

          1. noquarternt
            • 5 Years
            1 month, 15 days ago

            He’s doing well, no doubt, excellently- but we’ve seen this all before with countless players who have a wonder season somewhere and then they don’t live up to the hype. All he’s asking for is some perspective.

      7. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        He seems a bit of an exception - it's been mentioned above, but to get 17A & 17G from 32 games, in the Bundesliga, requires ability that not a lot of players really have...

        To do it at 20... that's pretty eye opening (Leroy Sane at that age for example, in the Bundesliga posted 8G 6A in 33 games... which prompted Pep to pay €60m for him, and that was 4 years ago, in which time transfer fees have been creeping up further)

        Throw in the fact that he's actually English so theoretically has a lower risk of encountering difficulties in adaption to the "new" country and you can see how it all starts adding up

        Nothing is ever guaranteed of course, who knows how he would integrate into the dressing room, personality wise etc etc - but that type of risk is nothing specific to Sancho, it would exist with the vast majority of transfers

        As a utd fan - I have a horrible feeling that it will fall through/they'll make a balls of the transfer & he'll end up giving the next 10-12 seasons of his career to Liverpool or back at Man City instead

      8. Berbs
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        You can be overrated and still be top tier, if that makes sense.

        And he's better than Sterling from what I've seen.

        Just because he's joining United, I think we will see two ends of the spectrum now. Some will say outlandish stuff and claim he's the best in the league, while others will say he's trash.

        He's fantastic, and has unlimited potential. Like any transfer, it doesn't mean it'll work out.

      9. Pumpy Pro
        • 11 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Yes he will be even more when he joins UTD. I bet they ruin him too. He should have gone to Liverpool.

        Wonder why City were not in for him to get him back. Pep knows . Hopefully it all goes tits up and he ends up like a good majority of UTD big signings on the scrap heap.

        1. Berbs
          • 10 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Liverpool aren't spending 100m+ on a player who isn't starting for them. And even more so on a player whose wages are double VVD, Salah and Mane. The latter is the biggest problem of them all.

          1. Pumpy Pro
            • 11 Years
            1 month, 15 days ago

            He wanted to go to Pool apparently. I agree though.

            This league is a lot more physical and he will not get as much space. Pep isn't a fool is he. I get the feeling he will not be the star everyone expects him to be and i see Robbie Fowler is questioning his temprement

            1. Berbs
              • 10 Years
              1 month, 15 days ago

              That's no surprise he wanted to go to Liverpool. Just the wrong timing - Salah and Mane still have fuel in the tank and are comfortably better.

          2. Amey
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 15 days ago

            Don't you think Pool would have a plan in back of the mind to find a replacement for a possible departure of Salah or Mane if one of the RM/Barca comes Calling ??

            I think they do. I won't be surprised if pool highjack United's pursuit of Sancho outta nowhere

            1. FOO FIGHTER
              • 1 Year
              1 month, 15 days ago

              Salah and Mane cannot be replaced at this point. Spending that much on Sancho from a Liverpool perspective like Berbs mentioned not going to happen.

              1. Amey
                • 1 Year
                1 month, 15 days ago

                I hope you're right 😀
                We need a RW !

            2. Berbs
              • 10 Years
              1 month, 15 days ago

              Liverpool operate with a clear sell to buy policy. Sancho would only ever be sign if Salah or Mane were sold, which won't happen this summer.

              Hypothetically if one was sold, I don't think Liverpool would've signed Sancho. He is going to get a package close to 400k a week at United. Liverpool's highest earner is VVD on 200k who is undoubtedly the best in the world at what he does.

              1. Amey
                • 1 Year
                1 month, 15 days ago

                Hmm
                United have to give more wages because lack of trophies that matter since SAF era 🙁

                I seriously hope he's not on 400k. Not that i will give his salary. But it can hamper the dressing room environment IMO. Best thing happening is Sanchez also looking out of United. Let's see

        2. Amey
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 15 days ago

          I love you too
          😀

          1. Pumpy Pro
            • 11 Years
            1 month, 15 days ago

            😀

      10. RECKLESS
        • 7 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Appreciate all the good traction this query got. In essence he is great, but added risk at Manutd with more pressure and lack of space in EPL. Also its Manutd to lose if they cant sign him this season as Liverpool will surely want to integrate a player like him next season as at 29 Mane and Salah wont be getting any younger. And one thing some wage speculators missed out is although Manutd still overpays as can be seen for De Gea, Ole only lets it happen if a player deserves it after some years at the club. So I likely see a wage of 250k(30% more than current) on par with Martial with performance based increments.Bruno gets 100k wage and stopped pursuing greedy Dybala so Ole knows to play bit of hardball. UCL football helps to negotiate better as well

    8. Zim0
      • 2 Years
      1 month, 15 days ago

      Is Soucek really a good option? Seen people saying they want him in their team

      1. Amey
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        He makes late run in the box.
        Also on set plays (WHU's one of the main weapon in attack) he's a good figure in the box.

        Seemingly has an eye for goal too. He will be one like Doucoure i guess. CM so don't expect returns every week

      2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        I'd say he's more a placeholder for the 5.5-6.5 bargain midfielder pool - we just don't know the exact names of who will be in there at the minute

      3. el polako
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Moye's new Fellaini.

      4. waltzingmatildas
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        I liked the look of him in the last few games. If he comes in cheap enough, I'll definitely consider him.

      5. Andy_Social
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        All comes down to price. We're assuming he's in the under 6m bracket. If you have 3 premium midfielders, you prob want a couple who will play and bag a few points every 2 or 3 GWs.

      6. Nimby
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Rice could be even cheaper as a defensive mid and he was showing signs of adding more attacking returns in the future.

        1. Amey
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Rice not for me.

          1. Nimby
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 2 Years
            1 month, 15 days ago

            Yeah I won't get him either. Probably will start at about 5.0 and that's an awkward price.

      7. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Nobody is a good option until we know fixtures and price

      8. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Depends on price. In FanTeam he's 4.5m. That's a complete steal. I'd pay 5.5m or lower for him. If he's 6.0m though I'd maybe reconsider.

    9. pingissimus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 15 days ago

      What price to we expect Dendonk to come in at?

      Perez is another that really interests me 🙂

      1. Jon Walter's Hatty
        • 6 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        While you are at it how about Trossard...some really encouraging signs post lockdown...

        1. Jon Walter's Hatty
          • 6 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          ...I won't touch Perez ever again...troll central...

      2. Amey
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Donkey 5m
        Perez same as last season.
        For me

        1. pingissimus
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Sorry just remembered I got the wrong season. Should be planning for 2021 to replicate 2020 and not 2019 🙂

    10. Nimby
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      1 month, 15 days ago

      Potential GW1 team/template

      4.5, 4.5 = 9
      TAA (8) Tarkowski (5.5) Aurier (5.5) 4.5 4.0 = 27.5
      Salah (12.5) Aubameyang (11), son (8.5) Bowen (6.5) 4.5 = 47.5
      Ings (8) Antonio (7) , 4.5

      Don't tell me you wouldn't have sex with that.

      1. Jon Walter's Hatty
        • 6 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Wouldn't have sex with Son tbh...

        1. Nimby
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Why you singling him out? Highly sus!

          1. Jon Walter's Hatty
            • 6 Years
            1 month, 15 days ago

            I'm argue not quite as 'sus' as encouraging relations 15 men, 6 of whom are also nameless...

      2. Amey
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        With Aurier Antonio & Tarkowski ??
        Good luck anyone having !
        Son looks like a baby faced Assassin too 😛

      3. I Member
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        0 players from the Manchester teams?

    11. Chelsea91
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 15 days ago

      This can make it within 100 M.

      Pope
      Taa,Robbo,Doherty
      Salah,Kdb,Pulisic,Bruno,Auba
      Wood,Ings

      1. Amey
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        You need a squad of 15 though

        1. Chelsea91
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Button 4.5,4.5,4.0

          1. Amey
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 15 days ago

            Still over budget mate 🙂

      2. Nimby
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Definitely wouldn't. You have 9 premium/lower premium players there. Impossible!

      3. Andy_Social
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        You're clearly a newbie. You haven't yet got the hang of this. Plenty time though - maybe follow experienced posters' threads for a few days.

      4. Jon Walter's Hatty
        • 6 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        What the hell chuck Kane and Vardy up top instead...

      5. Fantasy Gold
        • 6 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        lol

      6. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        5.5
        7.5, 7.0, 6.5
        12.5, 12.0, 9.0, 10.5, 11.5
        7.0, 8.0

        97.0 with another minimum 16.5 for the bench (and that's assuming 3x 4.0's + 1x 4.5!)

      7. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Just wait for the game to launch

        1. Pumpy Pro
          • 11 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Mind boggling

      8. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        No it can't.

        If you removed your bench maybe, but with it, this is inordinately expensive.

        You'd have to downgrade Bruno and Auba to 5.5-6.0s and then maybe you could afford it.

        1. Andy_Social
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          What the OP should do is use the end-of-season prices of those players and then add minimum 8m for inflation as most of those successful players from last seaon will start off more expensive.

      9. Brosstan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Deluded if you think this will cost below 110m, and that's generous

        1. Brosstan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Closer to 120m

    12. Society
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      1 month, 15 days ago

      Seeing some starting price estimates. I included 2 Leeds in a draft list I wrote down to remind myself. Will I make it in under 100 mil ?

      Jimenez, Mousset, Costa
      Stirling, Fernandes, Richarlson, McNeil, Soucek
      Apilicueta, Jonny, Tarkowski, Enda Stephens, Ayling
      Lloris, cheapy

      1. Andy_Social
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Not sure who Costa is, but yeh, that would within budget.

        1. Society
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Chrs Andy
          (Wolves Costa transferred to Leeds) ?

          1. MosF94
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 15 days ago

            Helder Costa will be a midfielder, I'm pretty sure. And Mousset is a risk, at present I would say it's unlikely he starts the season as first choice (and he'll probably be priced at 5.5ish, so too expensive to sit on your bench)

            1. Andy_Social
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              1 month, 15 days ago

              Yeh, I'd expect Costa to be a midfielder. Richarlison could be moved to striker so the squad of 15 could stand. There's a few I wouldn't fancy myself, but all I'm saying is it looks within budget.

    13. MosF94
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 15 days ago

      If Southampton have strong opening fixtures - is anyone considering an attacking double-up, if Adams is priced 5.5-6 and Ings 8-8.5?

      1. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Anyone should be considered if underpriced with good fixtures

        1. Andy_Social
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Yeah, this. Ings would be a nailed-on starter and I'd want a budget striker to be on and off my bench - could be from anywhere.

        2. MosF94
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Which of the two are we calling underpriced? After an underwhelming 4 goals 2 assists in his debut season, I think a 0.5 drop for Adams is pretty likely. Ings I think should probably be 9m, but the wording of the article on the PL website (Ings' price "expected" to be approx 8m) suggests otherwise

          1. Amey
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 15 days ago

            Adams started to find his feet in last few games. Otherwise we wouldn't be talking about him at all !
            Ings will be 8m which is a good deal too.

          2. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
            • 5 Years
            1 month, 15 days ago

            I just can't be bothered to speculate on what prices might be to be honest. I'd rather just want until a day or two before GW1 and then I have all the information I need to pick a team without unnecessarily tying myself in knots.

      2. FOO FIGHTER
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        I was looking at this as well but depends if Southampton will continue with 2 up top.

        1. Amey
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 15 days ago

          They always play that way recently.

          Long now 100 years old although looks like a 20 year old boy should be out of the picture now too. Che adams is record signing i guess for Southampton.

          He has potential to be bargain of the season ! Playing alongside ings will help him find more space too as everyone will now start to mark Ings after his wonderful season (maybe i have some bias)

          1. FOO FIGHTER
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 15 days ago

            Yep, I am going with Adams as one of my forwards. He has had a season to settle so should be playing more this coming season.

      3. Zim0
        • 2 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Ralph really likes to rotate his strikers though so not sure

      4. Peter Ouch
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Last year's Bournemouth?
        Still laughing on my double up on Wilson and Fraser

    14. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 month, 15 days ago

      With the help of FanTeam, I think I could come up with a decent first FPL draft even without prices.

      Leno (5.0) (4.0)
      TAA (8.0) Tierney (5.5) Coady (5.0) (4.0) (4.0)
      Salah (12.5) Sterling (11.5) Ziyech (8.5) Trossard (6.0) Pereira (6.0)
      Martial (10.0) Adams (5.5) (4.5)

      I could be off by a few 0.5s but it will be something like this. With a pricing structure like this. If fixtures are really favorable for City, I may start KdB + Sterling no Salah.

      1. MosF94
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Looks good, but I'm not sure how good value Martial will be at 10. Springboarding off my post above, but: would you rather have Martial (10) and Coady (5) or Ings (8) and Robbo (7)? Because I think I prefer the latter

        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Yeah maybe not Martial. Perhaps I'll have another budget forward and beef up midfield or defense.

          I think Ings will be 8.5m. Robbo could also be 7.5 if Trent is 8.0 or higher. Let's see.

      2. Andy_Social
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        I'd expect Sterling to be more than that. More significantly, if Leno is fit he might not win his place back from Martinez. Maybe Community Shield will tell us - if that's still a thing this year.

        Possibly the only draft I've seen (and will see) with neither Kevin nor Bruno. Brave (possibly foolish!)
        To be honest, I don't like it at all, but kudos for originality.

        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Sterling started at 12.0 last season and disappointed. I think he'll either be 11.5 or 12.0.

          I don't really like Bruno that much. If he's less than 11.0 I'll get him. But at 11.0 I prefer Sterling, KdB, Mane or Salah.

          The problem is you can't have them all. Salah, TAA (8.0 or lower) are the only players that are locks in my team. Which City/MUN players will depend on prices and fixtures. If Sterling is 12.0 and KdB at 12.5 I'll take DB. But if Sterling is 11.5, I'll get him instead.

      3. Wild Rover
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        As if you would want to play Coady, Trossard and Pereira every week

        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          I would have to. It's a tough game, man. Let's see though on what value options there are.

      4. Peter Ouch
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Do you think martial at 10.0 is worth it?

        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Werner might be better. But it will depend on prices really.

    15. Lucky Z
      • 3 Years
      1 month, 15 days ago

      Do you think Emi will return to bench directly when Leno is back? Was incredible for Arsenal.

      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Yes. He will be back on the bench for one reason. His distribution isn't as good. And Arteta is a disciple of Guardiola. I fully expect Leno to remain first choice. Martinez though could and should find a move to another club. He's been great and he deserves to start in the PL.

        1. Lucky Z
          • 3 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Yes. Can be described as perfect back-up, shame that there is no option to share time for GKs in PL

    16. pingissimus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 15 days ago

      How close was KdB to his likely points ceiling last time? Was that as good as it gets for him?

      He missed a few of course but had more minutes than all premiums bar Auba before lockdown iirc He was almost immune to roulette

      More penalties next time? That would give him a boost IFF he keeps them. But he’d also need to maintain close to record equalling assists.

      Finding it tricky to see him improving on 250.

      1. Amey
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        If Pep finds someone better than Jesus & Raz to finish chances he creates he'll get 300 too !
        (When Aguero is injured that is)

      2. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        As with all City players, the problem isn't potential it's game time.

        If KdB plays similar minutes I'd expect him to get 250 points again this season with penalties.

      3. Berbs
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Aguero mins a big factor in KDB output in my opinion.

        1. pingissimus
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Thinking about Kun to start the season in truth if fixtures fall right

          Loved 9.5 KdB but much less excited if he comes in at 12 plus. He does haul of course but he's also vulnerable to shared returns as a real life mid.

    17. Our Tiny Servant
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 15 days ago

      My first FanTeam draft.

      Pickford
      TAA Robertson Maguire Luiz
      KDB Sterling Ziyech Grealish
      Werner Antonia

      The rest is fodder.
      Quite happy for a first go.

      1. Our Tiny Servant
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Antonio*

        Antonia is my sister’s name, damn you Autocorrect!

        1. Amey
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Too much information

      2. 3 A
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        What Luiz do over there?

        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Yeah don't pick Luiz. Your players get -2 for giving away a penalty or a freekick that results in a goal 😛

        2. Our Tiny Servant
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          He’s only 4.5. Yes he’s a liability but I think he’ll outscore his price.

          1. Camzy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            1 month, 15 days ago

            But why pick Luiz over Rudiger or Jack O'Connell when they're the same price? The other two look better to me but again, who knows. Maybe Luiz cleans up his act.

      3. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Not bad.

        Mine is:

        Lloris 4.0
        TAA VvD Tierney Rudiger White
        Salah KdB Sterling Ziyech Soucek
        Antonio 4.0 4.0

        The big difference in FanTeam is that there are no bonus points. Forwards suck basically. Look at FPL, forwards all consistently get the most BPS and without them, the forwards in this game are all overpriced and FanTeam also favors top teams because of the bonus point given to players whose teams win the game. So the end result is that you should pick players from top 6 teams, load up in midfield and be super light at forward.

        Also no sense in having a bench because there's no bench boost.

        I think the best players in that game are: VvD (6.0m is a ridiculous price for him - also gets that bonus point on being on the winning team and he's beyond nailed on), Soucek (4.5m is like 1.5m less than what he's truly worth) and Sterling (11m for the player who scored the most goals from midfield - also only got 20 bonus points in FPL so if you take those out for FanTeam he's even higher).

        1. Our Tiny Servant
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          VVD was in many drafts but I realised I could afford Robertson.

          So you think I should reconsider Werner? Hm

          1. Camzy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            1 month, 15 days ago

            Definitely should reconsider Werner. Not because he's not good but because he's a forward. I'm playing 4-5-1 in this game all day I think.

            1. Our Tiny Servant
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 4 Years
              1 month, 15 days ago

              Isn’t Soucek a defensive mid?

              1. Andy_Social
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                1 month, 15 days ago

                Call him what you like. He scored 3 goals in th elast 7 matches.

        2. Christina.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          I like Soucek. I might even get him as a nice enabler in the real FPL. He might be this seasons Cantwell I reckon. Incredible header on him and takes some nice late runs into the box.

          1. Amey
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 15 days ago

            His stats vs dud teams are pretty good for 5/5.5m player.
            Maybe one for the rotation with another cheap Striker ...

            1. Andy_Social
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              1 month, 15 days ago

              Yeh, and a 4.5 defender with an easy home fixture. You wouldn't be using Soucek as a nailed-on starter. Well i wouldn't.

    18. Og
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 15 days ago

      Sterling at 11.5 or De bruyne at 12.5. Which do you choose...

      1. Our Tiny Servant
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Still DeBruyne

      2. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Sterling. I reckon he's gonna have a huge season. 1.0m can be useful too.

      3. FOO FIGHTER
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        That would be a massive rise for KDB. 3m less to spend from your budget compared to this past season. TAA's price also going up. So if TAA at 8.0 you are already 4.0 down compared to this past season.

        Squads are going to look very interesting.

        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Yeah it's pretty brutal. I was so happy last season starting with KdB, Salah, Sterling. This season will be very hard to do the same.

      4. Jay Jay Okocha
        • 7 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Sterling for sure

    19. Brosstan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      1 month, 15 days ago

      Funny when people say stuff like 'Ings nailed in my team at 8.0'. If SOU starting fixtures are wol, LIV, mcl he will have 0% ownership. Pointless even debating this without fixtures and player prices.

      1. FOO FIGHTER
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Yes, there will also be UTD, City, Wolves possibly starting late due to Europe.

      2. Amey
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        You picked one player as an example who is almost Fixture proof mate 😉
        He scored vs Pool/Leicester/spurs/Arsenal/Chelsea/Wolves/SHU/Everton last season

        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Danny 'Fixture Proof' Ings since the restart:

          ARS, MCY, mun - 2, 2, 2
          nor, wat, eve, BHA, bou, SHU - 11, 13, 9, 7, 4, 8

          He's got a point...

          1. Amey
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 15 days ago

            Whole season sample should be considered.

            1. Camzy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              1 month, 15 days ago

              Eh. It's a pretty decent sample size honestly. 9 games since restart and since he started every 3 days. Also a more true reflection of each team's current form. Spurs earlier in the season and Arsenal as well weren't as good defensively.

      3. Berbs
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        He literally scored against Al. 3 this season...

        1. Brosstan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Doesn't mean people would pick him with those opening fixtures. He also wouldn't have scored against pool if it weren't for a certain wasteman

      4. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        And ironically this post has provoked "pointless debate" around your throwaway example 😆

      5. Zim0
        • 2 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Wrong player to make this statement about xD

        1. Brosstan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          The point is that if he had those fixtures, almost no one would have him in their gw1 team because why on earth would you own a striker with awful fixtures from the start when you could wait for fixtures to clear up. So making gw1 teams without knowing fixtures is daft

    20. Berbs
      • 10 Years
      1 month, 15 days ago

      Newcastle want to sign David Brooks and Josh King, via Telegraph

      1. Make Arrows Green Again
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Odd, they won't be playing in the Championship until the 21-22 season.

      2. Brosstan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Don't see how King fits into the side. Gayle is better than him

      1. pingissimus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        German giants fall out over teen who scored 4 goals in the championship and is mainstay of England under 17 squad

        1. Amey
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Bayern moaning/shouting/criticizing about BD selling players has to be one of the biggest hypocrisy around the world.
          Hummels/Gotze/Lewa

          Maybe they are angry that they aren't getting one of BD players 😀

          1. Andy_Social
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            1 month, 15 days ago

            Link tells me it's the Daily Mail. So ......

    21. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 month, 15 days ago

      Ziyech + KdB or Fernandes + Son?

      1. Amey
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        F
        S

      2. pingissimus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Starting the season with Ziyech feels bold. I’ve not yet read a convincing analysis of what Lampard intends from his transfers.

      1. MosF94
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Struggling to believe that isn't DDG...!

        1. Greek Freak
          • 5 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          I thought it was De Gea with Roy Keane's beard.

    22. aapoman
      • 6 Years
      1 month, 15 days ago

      Bored at work so might as well do one of these "dream" drafts to pass the time:

      4,50 4,00
      TAA(8,0) 5,00 4,50 4,50 4,00
      Salah(12,0) KDB(12,0) Fernandes(11,0) Ziyech(8,5) 5,00
      7,00 Adams?(5,5) 4,50

      Totals to 100m

      1. Netley Lucas
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        This, squeeze Armstrong(6) in at M5 and hope there's enuff for 2 strikers!

    23. 1justlookin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 15 days ago

      Thoughts on Werner as a FPL option?

      1. Andy_Social
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        I personally shy away from a premium-priced player who has zero PL experience. He'll prob be monster but I'll watch him for at least 2 matches first.

      2. FOO FIGHTER
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        All depends on £

        1. Fantasy Gold
          • 6 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          If Chelsea’s opening fixtures are kind and he’s 10 or less then he’s in.

      3. Greek Freak
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        No reason why he can't hit the ground running. Morata did, after all!

    24. Dybala10
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      1 month, 15 days ago

      Is the black and white on the articles for everyone, or is colour some sort of perk for members?

    25. FOO FIGHTER
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 15 days ago

      Son was involved in 46 per cent of Spurs' goals when selected by Mourinho, more than any other player.

      10.5 next season?

      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Nah. 10.0m. Some of his inflated stats are from playing as CF in Kane's absence.

    26. I Member
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 month, 15 days ago

      How much emphasis do you put on ownership in your GW1 squad? I usually avoid most new signings who don't have Prem experience but just thinking with all the United fans around Sancho's ownership could be massive.

      1. Amey
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Depending upon fixtures, I'm looking at Bruno & Tony pair. Sancho only IN for Bruno if there is 1.5/2m price difference and i can get a serious upgrade somewhere else

        1. I Member
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Interesting. Think 1m would be enough for me to go Sancho over Bruno. Money will be tight at the start.

          1. Amey
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 15 days ago

            Bruno is best asset from United to own IMO. Sancho would only increase his FPL appeal for me.

            I'm very excited as a United fan to say the least 🙂

        2. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Really? I'm not interested in MUN really. I'm definitely starting with Salah and 1 City. So that means I either go full midfield premium with Bruno or have one strong forward who is likely to be Werner.

          1. Amey
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 15 days ago

            Only one from City for me.
            We know what to expect from OGS tbh. I can't see myself getting Salah Mane though unless something pretty radical happens. Let's see ...

      2. Greek Freak
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        No emphasis on ownership whatsoever for me. I might get Sancho regardless of that, however.

        1. KAPTAIN KANE
          • 3 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Will Sancho be nailed? Like who comes out of that deadly front 3?

          1. Greek Freak
            • 5 Years
            1 month, 15 days ago

            Greenwood.

          2. I Member
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            1 month, 15 days ago

            Yes he will be nailed. Harsh on Greenwood but Sancho is class and they're paying a fortune for him.

            1. KAPTAIN KANE
              • 3 Years
              1 month, 15 days ago

              Yeah it would be, if they get Grealish I presume he won’t be nailed at all

              1. Amey
                • 1 Year
                1 month, 15 days ago

                Only way i can see United signing Grealish is if they sell one of Fred or Pogba

      3. pingissimus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Ownership irrelevant of itself

        Slight reluctance to over invest in assets which are at or near maximum prices. The likes of KdB Salah and Liverpool defence feel unlikely to offer better than than they will be in week 1

        1. I Member
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Yeah it's interesting. Massive risk if you don't have those players and they hit the ground running but massive reward if cheaper alternatives match them. For the reason I'll highly consider Sterling over KDB, Sancho/Rashford over Bruno, VvD over TAA, etc. depending on how they're priced.

          1. Greek Freak
            • 5 Years
            1 month, 15 days ago

            Out of your examples - the thing is, we kind of know in advance that, barring injury, TAA will get you more points than VVD!

            The other two are more interesting though - Sterling over KDB especially is something I'd look into myself too.

            1. I Member
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              1 month, 15 days ago

              Yeah of course Trent will beat Virgil but if there's a 1.5m price difference VvD could be better value. If it's only 1m I'll find the extra cash for Trent.

            2. pingissimus
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 1 Year
              1 month, 15 days ago

              TAA VVD not cut and dried if you look at season value and that’s working off last season prices and TAA looks much more likely a hike than VVD who could stay 6.5

              Questionable of course where that money gets spent to “ensure” more points

              1. Greek Freak
                • 5 Years
                1 month, 15 days ago

                I don't expect TAA to be more than 1m more expensive. For 1.5 I might think about it, but as you said it's not cut-and-dried how to use the spare money to get more points either!

                1. pingissimus
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 1 Year
                  1 month, 15 days ago

                  Wouldn’t be going there if only for this reason

                  The risk obviously lies in the VVD choice. Where’s the possible upside? The 6.5 in VVD will only ever slowly accrue in value. That leaves two possibilities

                  TAA flops gets injured - easy transfer
                  1 mill elsewhere is unmissable value - easier ways to make a million I imagine and there’s a much bigger risk in not owning Taa

          2. Amey
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 15 days ago

            I don't know about you, but whenever i go with cheaper alternative purely to save money I've always been burnt badly 😀

            1. Greek Freak
              • 5 Years
              1 month, 15 days ago

              I've had a few successes with this - most notably picking Salah in his first season because he was 0.5 cheaper than Mane 😀

              But yes, as I said in a lot of cases we kind of know in advance that the more expensive one will get more points, like TAA over Van Dijk.

              1. Amey
                • 1 Year
                1 month, 15 days ago

                If i tell you my story, chance you might cry ..
                Sighhh
                😀

      4. FOO FIGHTER
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        What if UTD have a blank GW1?

        We will have to wait till the fixtures are out. No ways I will be picking KDB if GW1 is a blank for him as well.

        1. Our Tiny Servant
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          A think there will be a lot of GW3 wildcards

          1. FOO FIGHTER
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 15 days ago

            Probably. But if you get off to a flyer without CIty or UTD should GW1 be a blank for their assets then perhaps just stay without instead of using your WC that early?

            You could have a very beefy team.

            I also suspect Pep will be in ultra roulette mode again this season. If City add anymore attacking or defensive signings with a possible early DGW pending then the 5 sub rule going to be your worst nightmare 🙂

        2. I Member
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          What needs to happen for there to be a blank in GW1?

          1. FOO FIGHTER
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 15 days ago

            City and UTD finishing late with Europe.

            1. I Member
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              1 month, 15 days ago

              How late is late? Do they need to reach the final? Is there X amount of vacation days required?

              1. FOO FIGHTER
                • 1 Year
                1 month, 15 days ago

                Not sure. There will also be the UEFA Super Cup on the Thursday the 24th of September.

      5. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Have never even considered it

        I think the only time I've ever (directly) factored ownership into a decision that I can remember was GW38 captaincy where i reluctantly went Sterling over Dilva because I just needed to avoid a red arrow to stay in top 10k & Sterling's EO was 120%...

        Indirectly however, ownership is (generally!) a good indication that a player has something/a lot going for them in the upcoming gameweeks, so indirectly high ownership players are usually a part of our broader plans anyways

        Sancho is apparently a bit of a specialist at winning penalties - the sky really is the limit for Bruno this season - him & Rashford could be the utd double up of choice to get all pens & DFK's in the bag maybe...

        1. I Member
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Sancho definitely increases Bruno's appeal further. Or if they are close enough in price then it's Fernandes for sure but with the budget stretched to the limit at the start I can see myself going with Sancho to upgrade a defender or my 8th attacker.

          1. Andy_Social
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            1 month, 15 days ago

            Ownership? Don't care. I play my own game; others can do what they like. Why overcomplicate?

    27. KAPTAIN KANE
      • 3 Years
      1 month, 15 days ago

      Hey guys, any leaked player prices yet?
      Or do we think they’re yet to be set?

      1. FOO FIGHTER
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 15 days ago

        Only hints from FPL website so far is Ings at around 8m and that Salah and Mane will be priced the same.

        1. Greek Freak
          • 5 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Damn, that means I'll have to actually make a decision on Salah vs. Mane! Normally I just get the cheaper one...

          1. FOO FIGHTER
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 15 days ago

            The one which finished on more points 😉

      2. Greek Freak
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 15 days ago

        They've been dropping hints here and there in their season review articles - like Ings at 8.0 for example.

        1. RedLightning - Top 10k Any …
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 10 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          No leaks. Just a few educated guesses by The Scout, who won't know yet.