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Vinagre to offer FPL value in 2020/21 following Jonny’s long-term injury

Ruben Vinagre (£4.5m) could prove to be one of the most effective budget defenders in Fantasy Premier League this season.

The 21-year-old defender looks certain to fill the gap left in the Wolves team by a long-term injury to Jonny Otto (£5.5m).

The Spaniard is unlikely to feature for Nuno Espirito Santo’s men for an extended period following an operation on his damaged anterior cruciate ligament, injured against Olympiakos earlier this month.

Preliminary estimates indicate that Jonny may not play until 2021, which could unlock Vinagre’s FPL potential as a set-and-forget budget option.

After two years as an understudy on the left-hand side of Wolves’ wing-back system, Vinagre finally has a chance to string together consistent starts in 2020/21. That could see him surpass his 24 and 32-point total scores from the two previous campaigns by a considerable margin.

In fact, Vinagre may even act as a powerful differential in the early weeks of the campaign provided we don’t see massive ownership shifts between now and Gameweek 1. The left wing-back currently sits in 11.7% of Fantasy teams, roughly half the ownership of Matt Doherty (£6.0m).

Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.5m), owned by 56%, is currently the only more fashionable defender than the Republic of Ireland international and the heavy backing for Wolves’ right wing-back could see Vinagre slip under the radar for those outside the hardcore Fantasy community.

This article serves to bring the Wolves youngster into the light, examining what he produced in fleeting appearances during 2019/20 using some key underlying statistics.

As this article uses Opta data, only those with a valid Fantasy Football Scout subscription can access it in full.

Are Wolves defenders worth owning for 2020/21?

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  1. Lignja
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    How is this all in mid look? Even thinking to downgrade Taa to upgrade Greenwood to Fernandes but probably 2 much

    Casilla
    Taa, Vinagre, Saliba, Taylor
    Kdb, Salah, Auba, Ziyech, Greenwood
    Mitrovic

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Dreamy midfield but that looks an early WC

    2. Legohair
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Bench?

  2. yousunkmybattleship
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    We need fixtures!

    Today

    1. 3 A
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Definitely

    2. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Not happening

    3. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Lower your expectations and you'll be happier.

      Friday.

    4. MikeBravo
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Friday

  3. 3 A
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Rotate captain between Bruno and KDB only.

    Maybe Werner if he succed

    Thoughts?

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      That is my plan. Add in TAA at home to goal shy teams

    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Premature

    3. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Is the home advantage dampened by the empty stadiums?

    4. Adsequor
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Not considering Salah?

    5. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Exactly this is my plan

  4. Piggs Boson
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Ridiculous price.

    FPL must have known about the Jonny injury prior to pricing... baffling.

    Not sure I imagine a set of fixtures that would stop be buying him..

    1. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      The Scout put him in their recommended starting lineup so they obviously knew. Obviously underpriced, poor decision

      1. Old Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        They might buy a LB/LWB I suppose .....

        1. Piggs Boson
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Someone better than Vinagre though? Looks great from what I've seen, and strong atats above too...

          I don't think they'd waste the money on someone better when they can just get temporary backup.

          Maybe just wishful thinking...

          1. Goonsquad245
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Ghoulam from Napoli apparently. From what I hear he'd definitely play ahead of Vinagre.

    2. amitmishr
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      They always leave someone like him for the non-casuals.

      AWB, Lundy and now him

      1. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Every spoon fed casual will have him despite never hearing about him before

        1. MikeBravo
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Or you could argue that every FFS member will have him, even though they may already be aware of him, because FFS and the FPL Scout have not exactly kept it quiet that he'll be a 4.5 bargain. Are we being spoon fed a template?

          1. Piggs Boson
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            They're just doing their jobs. It makes it harder for us, but that's okay.

            It's our responsibility to find even better ways to get an edge. Adapt, survive.

            1. MikeBravo
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              With triple Wolves defence...?!

    3. Bada Bing
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      He's going to be in every team, so no advantage to anyone.

      1. Sanchit
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Every team in the FFS bubble.
        Overall percentages would not exceed 50% I guess.

    4. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      He’s about 1.0 underpriced (while Otto is dead) to Doherty’s 0.5 underpriced

      Could be a great double act if Boly is fit & Wolves have kind opening fixtures

    5. Goonsquad245
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Wolves are trying to sign a LB. If that happens he's dead as an option again.

      Still badly priced at 4.5, he's either an option or he isn't and when he is it's a ridiculous bargain.

    6. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      He’s going to make Doherty a nice differential 😎

  5. Karan14
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Choose:

    A) Bruno & 4.5m def
    B) Rash/Son & Doherty

    1. Dhanesh Prabhu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Nothing against Bruno or Doherty but what about Rash/Son and Vinagre and spend the extra elsewhere..

    2. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      If Spurs and Wolves have decent fixtures, B. Otherwise A

    3. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Fixture dependent

    4. Drexl Spivey
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I'd get Rashford in, regardless of fixtures. Also, would be silly to miss out on Vinagre at this point.

    5. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B

    6. Adsequor
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A with Vinagre

    7. Jay Jay Okocha
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B regardless of fixtures

  6. Brosstan
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Give us the fixtures!

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Not happening

      1. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Wasn't it announced that they would come out today?

        1. Holmes
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Cancelled due to some issue

          "Sorry, just been told as they were due to be released a number of issues have came up with certain fixtures (this can be explained in due course).There is no set release date now until issues fixed.I will let you know when I hear further. Sorry for the false hope for fpl players"

          1. Fordy40
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Someone follows exwhuemployee on Twitter....

          2. chrismoo75
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Probably used the same algorithm as they did for the school A-levels lol

  7. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Curious about Tierney...
    Is he on any set pieces?
    Can arsenal's defence be trusted this season?

    1. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Wait n see

    2. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      With Pepe and Willian around, doubt he will take any set pieces.

      Don't think their defense can be trusted for consistent returns, atleast for now.

    3. Dhanesh Prabhu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Auba, Pepe and now Willian.

      KT can forget about any set piece duties. With Saliba too coming into foray, there is a slight chance that he could be used as a wingback if Laca departs and Auba is given the central role.

      Otherwise I don't think Tierney could be a starter in the current formation, atleast for the opening weeks.

    4. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Wish I have a slot for him.. unfortunately not

    5. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Sideshow Bob is in the Arsenal defence. Would you trust Sideshow Bob?

    6. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Staying away for now. Thank you all!

  8. amit1964
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    hii
    has someone open a draft league?

  9. Piggs Boson
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    The FPL 'Scout' is FFS, right?

    I always assumed that was case...

    1. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Believe so, yes.

    2. Sanchit
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Not exactly FFS.
      But some overlap but the content writers between the two platforms

  10. Free Hat
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    A) bruno + mitro

    B) greenwood + martial

    (have kdb+salah for captaincy)

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B

    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A

    3. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B

    4. Dhanesh Prabhu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      If you don't have any other manutd players, go for b..

      Otherwise A imo

  11. Ci Siamo
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Is Foden a decent set and forget City mid to go alongside KDB?

    1. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      If you enjoy the feeling of angst he's a great pick. Teenagers everywhere are picking him.

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Needs some bench cover and hope he doesn’t cameo too often but could be superb option.

    3. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      It's a risk that I'm willing to take. Ridiculous value!

  12. NABIL - FPL otai
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Let's say Wolves get some gash opening fixtures, would you still go for vinagre and/or Doherty?

    What about WHU.. would you still go for soucek and/or antonio?

    1. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      You haven't provided a reason not to.

      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Bad fixtures mean less chance for good points early on? Surely they are, Doherty aside, not really the type of players you would stick regardless of fixtures?

        1. The Knights Template
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Misunderstood gash, sorry!

    2. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Vinagre and Soucek, not the luxury versions.

    3. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Vinagre, yes. Decent bench cover.

      WHM, nope.

    4. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Probably will have Vinagre and Soucek anyway and only double with Doherty and Antonio with the right fixtures...

      But if it looks optimal to WC fairly early, I will consider going without and bring them in then.

    5. Shatner's Bassoon
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I don't know how bad the fixtures would have to be for me to not get Vinagre.

      Soucek likewise. The guy has an absurd goalscoring record recently(!) & it's not as if West Ham need to be dominating a football match for him to get a chance. Literally one corner is all they need so I'll take that for £5m and stick cash elsewhere

    6. have you seen cyan
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Maybe just the cheap ones if nas fixtires. Soucek and Vinagre, and rotate them with others

  13. KGFC
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Which combo for double up?

    1. TAA + Robbo/VVD?
    2. Doh + Vinagre?

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      1

      1. KGFC
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks!

    2. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Get al 4 😉

      Similar conundrum. Taa and vinagre look pretty sure for me, not sure to get vvd or doh

      1. KGFC
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I'm also thinking the same 🙂 But just thinking it is too risky doubling up on two defences? Then will have to play these four almost every game (not a fan of 5 ATB)

        But, Doh is ultimate value and without any EL this season, I think he will easily justify his price and guessing he will end the season in the 170-180 range.

        TAA, no point of discussion. And Vinagre as well just because of the ridiculous price.

        Robbo is the one I'm contemplating but then he plays for Pool who I expect to have 15+ CS and then he is also an assist machine.

        All 4 do sound tasty though 🙂

        1. Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I have all four (with VVD over Robbo) and will play 4 atb most weeks but then could leave me with Soucek points on the bench a lot of weeks

          1. KGFC
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Agree, same challenge here.

    3. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Big difference on the money but 1

      1. KGFC
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yes, true.
        But I think either combo justifies there price point in comparison to their mid or fwd counterparts.

  14. Jotangs
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Any changes?

    Ryan

    TAA Tierney Vinagre

    Moutinho Bruno KDB Auba

    Mitro Wood Jimenez

    Bench: McCarthy Saliba Ferguson Stevens (leeds)

    1. Legohair
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Very good team

    2. Rhinos
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      No, congrats you've won fpl

      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I was so close 🙁

        1. Pedersen
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I was even a point but still lost 🙁

          1. Amey
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            I had same points. But lost because higher ID

    3. Pedersen
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Looks fine, wait for fixtures

  15. Eat my goal!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Beginning to settle on some ideas

    Cheap at the back (Too many good options)

    4.5 4.0
    Kwp Taa vinagre ayling/Taylor ferg

    Forward spread of cash

    Kdb mane foden greenwood soucek
    Che Werner jimi

    Thoughts?

    1. Jafalad
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Who are the gks and third forward? Looks good so far.

      1. Eat my goal!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Third forward is che Adams

        Gk I’m thinking there is Leeds Southampton & Brighton

        Depending who I pick I can change the selections in defence

        1. Jafalad
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Not fancy Pope as a sit and leave with a 4.0?

          1. Eat my goal!
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            I tend to suffer on the GK until I’ve built some cash

            Happy to take a few hits if there is longevity in my move

            Early fixtures will dictate the cheap pics and hope for the best

    2. Rhinos
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Id want more captain options than that

      1. Eat my goal!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        3 not enough for you?

    3. Goonsquad245
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      In my opinion you are making a real mistake choosing Mane over Salah at the same price.

      Aside from that it's OK - Foden is a pretty substantial risk early doors though. I think you have enough captain options with KDB/LIV mid/Werner

      1. Eat my goal!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Pretty sure mane out scored salah at the beginning of the last two seasons

  16. Steve The Spud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    I always thought Jonny was like the bloke from Sunday league who made it through the ranks

    turns out he's actually Spanish, who knew!

    1. Rhinos
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Pretty much everyone who watches football

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Jonny, la genta esta muy loca

      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Hasta la vista

  17. KujaliaFC
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Does the same apply to Williams (MUN) and Luke Shaw?

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      It it looks like Shaw is out long term and no replacement is signed, then sure, Williams looks a bargain.

      No idea how Shaw is atm...

      1. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        If it*

      2. KGFC
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I think in the Europe league match against Sevilla, the commentators said Shaw might be back for the new season. Not sure though.

      3. Old Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        After how he got skinned in the Europa SF might they not buy a back-up?

        1. amitmishr
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Trust Woodward. I am half expecting a 50mn deal to buy vidal on the deadline day to sort our striker worries

          1. Amey
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Be careful.
            Barca is about to start. Mega sale. We might fall for rakitic vidal & Dembele 😕

            1. amitmishr
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Barcelona, Madrid, and Juve all might do some sale.

              Rakitic is decent as a cover. So is Kroos, vicinius, isco, James, dybala and de ligt.

              The more I think, Pogba does not fit in a 4231 system and if we can get a good exchange for him, dybala and a CDM or a central defender, it would be great

      4. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Shaw would be fit. BW is a kid. Raw. Needs experience. Doesn't follow up with fellow attackers to stop crosses & makes rash calls sometimes.

  18. rnrd
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    I just read international transfer window will close on oct 5 and domestic will close on oct 16.
    So until GW5 is finished big transfers could happen.

    Does this affect your strategy?
    I personally might start this season with a new strategy.

    I generally tend to build a GW1 team I can keep as long as I can before I Wildcard.
    I generally also have a very slow start.

    This year and With the delayed transfer window I might try a more aggressive approach and only build a punty/fixtures oriented team for the first 6 GW and then WC on GW6 or 7

    1. Pedersen
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I am not decided whether I want Werner or Bruno. So got Antonio and greenwood, and have 3m in the bank for the upgrade when I have seen their first gw

  19. have you seen cyan
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Why have Spurs signed Hart, what the

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Maybe because he is better than Gazzaniga

      1. Holmes
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Or emotional signing just to pay him

    2. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      They're going to start with two goalies to shore up their defence, Mo Style.

    3. Goonsquad245
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Replacement for Vorm?

    4. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Maybe for homegrown quota ?

  20. Kalou
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Fixtures out today?

    1. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Nope.

      Friday looks more likely

      1. Kalou
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I heard it had been brought forward.... Oh well

  21. fpork
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    How does it look? Too weak bench? I could downgrade VVD or Foden?
    McCarthy (Nyland)
    van Dijk, Vinagre, Alexander-Arnold (Taylor, Ferguson)
    De Bruyne, Fernandes, Foden, Greenwood, Aubameyang
    Antonio, Bamford (Davis)

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Don’t like Bamford - misses a lot of chances

      1. Old Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Don't tell me that he actually does score occasionally ....?

        1. Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Has never looked Premier League level in the few opportunities he has had. Decent Champ level forward mind... and had an offer to study at Harvard which he turned down

          1. Old Man
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Entirely agree. Didn't know about Harvard - nice to hear of a footballler with a brain (he must have traded that for his lack of finishing prowess). Just read his Wiki page - he plays four different musical instruments too.

            1. Party time
                3 years, 8 months ago

                He is also a very good belly dancer

                1. Derek the Dog
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 8 months ago

                  and a champion at tiddlywinks

              • St Pauli Walnuts
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                Triangle, kazoo, recorder and tambourine.

        2. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          From level of bashing he's getting here i hope leeds get pool 4.5/5.5m striker on loan 🙂

    2. Emiliano Sala
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      i know salah is a bargain this season at 12
      but aren't kdb, bruno, rashford, werner all better values ?
      rashford can easily bring over 200 points.
      I know salah is great option. but haven't persuaded myself to not own rashford

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Value picks are in enablers and emerging bargains like Lundstram.

        When it comes to premiums, you want the best players. Salah is that.

        1. Emiliano Sala
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          is he ? I think captaining KDB and Bruno is more secure atm.
          unless liverpool signs thiago. then he is a no brainer

        2. Old Man
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Berbs - a new grav!?

          1. goriuanx
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            A little profile refresh ahead of the new season 🙂

      2. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Don't let the masses here convince you to not own Rashford. He's a proven 200 point player for 9.5m. Lots of people are clouded by his recent form and the emergence of Greenwood and rule him out. And I say let them. Their loss is our gain.

        1. Flair
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Also no more penalties (he scored 6 last season, dropping him down to 11 goals for the season), him dropping deeper and playing a more creative role that allows Shaw to overlap, and it looks like he's playing through injury resulting in his poor form. I'm sure he'll become a fantastic asset and essential sooner or later this season but to start with him GW1 is quite the risk.

          1. Goonsquad245
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            He won something stupid like 5 of the 6 pens he scored last season though which mitigates it somewhat.

      3. Karan14
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I have nothing against Rashford but he was bit of frustrating pick after lockdown. Sometimes he was playing too wide. But as a 9m MID he's definitely worth considering. I also expect him to score around 200 points.

      4. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Rashford is not a bargain for me compared to the other options. He scored 17 + 8 last season. I believe 6 of those goals were from pens.
        I agree about the rest!

        1. Emiliano Sala
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          he is too dangerous in eye test. goals will come imo. sometimes he plays as CF too

          1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            I don't doubt his potential!

          2. Amey
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            You get Tony for 0.5 less 🙂

      5. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        When you want a © you don't look for value. You look for reliability. Salah at home is a reliable © option.

        I agree KDB & Bruno also great options. But I'm going with 2 big hitting mids only. Helps having a big Defense & a good 2 striker's.

        Re rashford, he's playing like a headless chicken since last few days. Maybe shaw absence hurting him as Williams doesn't overlap muct to create space for Rashford on which he thrives.

        1. Karan14
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Good point Amey. We really struggle down the left hand side without Shaw and I think that's the reason why Rashford is underperforming. But still he was a bit unlucky not to get more attacking returns after lockdown.

          1. Amey
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Unlucky or not enough clinical ??
            We need a Freaking superstar to avoid Sevilla again. Those 10. Minutes in second half were so relentless. But no return. We need goalscorers. Freaking sign Sancho ffs 🙁

            I hope SF exist would open eyes of board now.

        2. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          How big is Bruno?

          I’m intrigued how he and Jim/Ings match Pulisic and Kun/Kane/Vardy or Werner and some change

          Just feel - without fixtures - Bruno is a great place to start while we see which forward hits form. One will

          1. Amey
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            I'm passing on Bruno atm for Martial. 1.5m savings.
            Tony is pretty reliable at home too so can © occasionally.

            1. pingissimus
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Fair strategy

              I actually prefer Martial to Bruno as captaincy material. Haven’t checked but my feeling was last time Martial was the one who thrived in captaincy games whereas Bruno was fairly fixture neutral - not that much more likely to return a haul if the oppo was cack.

              Just finding it hard to eke out that 0.5 for Martial - most likely route VVD over Robbo - VVD is a “long play” for value

              1. pingissimus
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                There again position change may switch things around when looking at Martial as captaincy material - lower ceiling now?

              2. Amey
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                Robbo to VVD is a good downgrade. Just need to be patient with VVD.

                Regarding Martial position change, yes he will get affected. But for 30 points he'd lose for goal & cs (17+13) he'd get 5-10 more bps extra maybe

                1. pingissimus
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 8 months ago

                  I was thinking simply about captain games - mids have a higher ceiling than forwards normally

      6. Goonsquad245
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        It's not a normal value comparison because of captaincy. Salah doesn't have to be that much better than KDB and Bruno to be a better option because his value is amplified by virtue of you having two of him most weeks (so at a really basic level a 1 point expected difference per game becomes 2 etc etc)

        He's not far off the best value player in the game on that basis, IMO.

    3. Chelsea91
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Mc Carthy
      Taa,Vinagre,Taylor,Dallas
      Kdb,Salah,Auba,Greenwood
      Mitro,Jimenez

      Martin Stephens,Ferguson,Davies

      Set

      1. Old Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        no Chelsea?

        1. Chelsea91
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Will monitor Werner and Ziyech

          1. Old Man
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Do you think Havertz will come?

            1. Chelsea91
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              I think yes because Lampard want to change the attacking options.

              1. Old Man
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                Cheers. You would have an amazingly exciting forward line in the case. (Potentially anyway). Goals galore!

                Ziyech Havertz Pulisic
                --------- Werner -------

                1. Chelsea91
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 8 months ago

                  Might change Jimenez to Ziyech , thinking

    4. Chandler Bing
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Which trio? Have KdB, Salah already.

      A. Aubameyang, Ziyech, Bamford
      B. Sterling, Armstrong, Ings

      1. Holmes
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        B

    5. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Is this article redundant?

      Wolves are looking to sign Ghoulam at left back who will like come in at £4.5m meaning you don't know who will start.

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        *Deletes Vinagre*

      2. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Likely ?
        I would love that bdw. Hopefully they do.

      3. Holmes
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Lascellas time

      4. Goonsquad245
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        It's more likely he comes in at 5.5 and will start. Zero chance he's 4.5m IMO. Might get him at 5 if we're lucky.

      5. Shatner's Bassoon
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Ghoulam's first choice if he signs IMO & will be priced as such. Quite a shame.

      6. Klaren
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I googled this and the source of all articles seem to be Tuttosport. Not a very reliable source for teams other than Juve.

        1. Flair
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Appreciate the hope you're giving me

        2. FPL Virgin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Regional press are running the story and they are a reputable source.

    6. SomeoneKnows
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Who would you rather have?

      A) Werner + Rashford
      B) Jimenez + Bruno

      1. Holmes
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        B

    7. Je suis le chat
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Anyone else thinking of planning to transfer in premiums for plum fixture runs with a mind to captaincy? Say rather than worrying about not having them all, you pick a set and forget core (eg defence of TAA, VVD and Doherty, anchor mids of Kdb and Bruno) and bring in the likes of Mo, Aub, Kun when suits.

      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Many. I'm at least 🙂

      2. Holmes
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Thats the plan

        1. Je suis le chat
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Be nice to try mini-wildcards every say 3 weeks to chase great fixtures/fix some holes.

      3. Goonsquad245
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        It's a viable strategy - needs the fixtures to fall right though. Switching on a game by game basis rarely works

        1. Je suis le chat
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I might try to plan around loading vs teams like Fulham, Villa. The odd - 4 should pay dividend.

      4. Flair
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Gotta look at the fixtures first but for now yes

      5. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Sort of.

        My plan at the moment is to have a core of players I intend to keep and then move other players around depending on their form, fixtures etc.

        Vinaigre is throwing a spanner in my works because I currently have Doherty as my other set and forget defender alongside TAA, but he’s £1.5m cheaper.

        But, at some point he’ll probably have to be moved on when Jonny comes back, and Doherty may have risen in price by then....

    8. EL_FENOMENO
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Best 5.5 def ?

      1. Old Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Tierney?

      2. ippe
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Aurier

    9. Lucky Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      MF too heavy?

      McCarthy
      VVD | Vinagre | C.Taylor
      Auba | KDB | Fernandes | ASM | Salah
      Mitrovic | Bamford

      Nyland | Ayling | Ferguson | Wickham

      1. Sanchit
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Who will you probably captain?
        If you're someone who captains Salah frequently, then getting 3 other pricey mids is not the optimal approach I guess.

        1. Goonsquad245
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          It's too heavy in midfield regardless - you don't need that many captaincy options.

        2. Lucky Z
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Auba will be my choice. Probably will split Salah money. Will get TAA etc

      2. Shatner's Bassoon
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        yeah, one big hitter too many.

        Auba -> Greenwood/Ziyech IMO, and see what that 4/4.5M gets you !

        1. Lucky Z
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Doubled up on Liv defence instead. Salah will be easy switch from Auba if needed.

      3. Flair
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        ASM, Mitrovic, Bamford... not ideal

    10. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      lol @ The Scout on FPL literally posting a 15 man lineup already.