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The Community Round Up

The search for value, in particular among defenders, was a central focus of this week’s discussions, which also covered the prospects of La Liga stars in the Premier League and marked the premature retirement of one the Fantasy Football’s most successful Spaniards.

Our community writers also focus on player pricing, top tips for success in Fantasy Premier League’s draft game as well as ownership trends.

Bonus magnets in the Sky Sports game are among the topics covered in our Members table round-up and we finish off with a look at the latest community tournaments available.

The Community Articles

With more than 700,000 now signed up to the Fantasy Premier League, the ownership trends have been fluctuating markedly since its launch. Milvus’ community article on ownership trends takes a key look at the significant early movement.

One group of players that are seeing significant activity are premium defenders, including wing-backs that offer potential returns at both ends. Whether this group of players offer better value than mid-price midfielders is the subject of FPL Virgin’s debut community article.

Positively priced punts are the focus of The Boose’s latest piece, as he considers those who offer considerable bang for their buck from FPL’s player list.

Elsewhere, Spreadsheet has turned to his abacus to assess whether misfiring attackers one season are able to dramatically improve their goal conversion rate over their next campaign. This follows on from Prokoptas’ article earlier this month on the Plexiglas Principle, which seeks to find out if underperforming players can strengthen their returns over time.

To help those playing FPL’s draft game, our resident expert Pav A Nice Day dropped by to offer his guidance on constructing the perfect player list for the forthcoming draft nights.

Don’t forget, if you’ve got some analysis, scout reports or features brewing, be sure to visit our community section to submit your article.

The Hottest Topics

The community articles section’s focus on rearguard options spilled out into our Hot Topics with That Posh Bloke casting his monocled eye over some spiffing chaps in defence.

Bournemouth defenders have piqued the interest of Miguel Sanchez, who canvassed views on whether centre back Nathan Ake or full back Charlie Daniels are the best options from the Cherries backline. While Lucy made a triumphant return to offer guidance on the best Southampton defenders to invest in, as part of her look at Saints assets.

Newcastle and Swansea’s kindly priced defenders are on Teddy’s radar, after his research found that the two sides rotate strongly for those who track the fixtures and are looking to save funds in defence.

There was further consideration of defensive rotation in our discussion of the best goalkeeper strategy.

Pre-season friendlies offer Fantasy managers the perfect opportunity to gather vital clues on whether their picks will be sure starters and offer returns.

However, so far the 19.6% of FPL managers who own Paul Pogba been left disappointed by his performances, according to our discussion on lessons learned from the summer fixtures played so far.

The dream of a more attacking role for the Frenchman is still yet to be realised.

In contrast, Pogba’s team-mate Henrikh Mkhitaryan has impressed, with a goal and an assist midweek during the Red Devil’s US tour. We wondered why, given his advanced role and strong summer form, he is still only in 4.3% of FPL squads.

Crystal Palace kicked off their summer preparations with a 2-0 loss to Liverpool to dent interest in their assets. But with a strong opening set of fixtures Andy8wsm ponders whether their newly appointed captain Jason Puncheon may at last turn his enticing underlying statistics into Fantasy points. As followers of the Scoutcast last season will know, that is an issue I may be reluctant to revisit for a second successive campaign.

At least the 5.0 priced Eagles midfielder is cheap, even if he doesn’t offer good value based on his history. This difference between a player’s price and their real value is an issue that Deulofail addresses in his latest discussion.

The price tag of Chelsea’s incoming new recruit, Alvaro Morata, was eagerly awaited this week. But, as Ownership Tactic asks, can the Real Madrid striker do it on a cold windy night in Stoke? He added to this discussion with a roll call of those who have made a successful transition from La Liga to the Premier League, as well as those who failed to make the grade.

If Morata, who is also the subject of this discussion by Prokoptas,  gets off to a good start, team plans may need to change to accommodate him. This is where a flexible FPL friend can help out, says our Hot Topic on players that can easily be jettisoned to make way for an early season bandwagon.

One such bandwagon in FPL’s past is Michu, who scored an incredible 18 Premier League goals for Swansea in the 2012/13 season and this week sadly announced his retirement through injury. Wild Rover was among those who dropped by to pay their respects to the Spaniard.

Bargain hunters were once again out in full force this week as they rummaged through the player list in search of gems. Aaron Ramsey, Arsenal’s 7.0 valued midfielder who has scored once and assisted another goal in pre-season, is among those garnering interest. But Drip Doctor warns that patience may be needed with the Welshman, who he doubts will be able to produce frequent attacking points.

Chelsea’s development squad is proving an attractive source of budget midfielders. New Watford signing Nathan Chalaboah and Reuben Loftus Cheek – who is on loan at Crystal Palace – have attracted the attention of Scotty B, based on the promise of more game time at their new clubs. Both are priced at 4.5 but AceKn1ght urges Fantasy managers to make sure they also consider the potential of midfielders priced at 5.0.

Southampton are proving another prime route for those in search of value, with the south coast outfit figuring prominently in Pukka-Geoff’s discussion on teams to double, or even triple up, on.

Meanwhile, value from third strikers is the subject of Pele Alli’s latest Hot Topic, with Triggerlips adding to the debate by asking whether Newcastle forward Dwight Gayle deserves to be in our frontlines.

Sales shoppers are steering clear of Liverpool this season with their stars of 2016/17, including Philippe Coutinho, suffering value hikes. Given that the Reds look set to rotate around Champions League games, we asked whether their assets may be best avoided. The no-Liverpool player strategy of last year’s FPL winner and Everton fan Ben Crabtree certainly offers a powerful case for adopting this potentially risky tactic.

123thro is looking to go further than Ben by basing his team around avoiding players from last year’s top six sides and asked for your tips of other assets to consider.

Finally, Athletico Timbo asked the community to dust off their crystal balls and predict who will be next season’s Fantasy hits and misses.

To view all our discussions please visit our Hot Topics page.

The Members Tables

Spreadsheet has created a table entitled, ‘should have scored more’, in support of his community article on misfiring attackers’ potential for improvement.

For those playing Sky Fantasy Football Disable has made a table dedicated to players who have dominated the game’s bonus point allocation.

Elsewhere, Mynjdusta has constructed two tables looking at the best defender prospects and goalkeepers with impressive underlying statistics.

If you’re a member and are yet to get to grips with the custom statistics tables, you can view this movie for an explanation of how they work. Also, remember to tag them so that people can find the tables with ease.

The Community Tournaments

PDM is looking for those who have finished at least one FPL season within the top 1,000 to join his Top 1K Any Season league (21265-6670), and those with at least one top 10,000 finish are invited to join Red Lightning’s Top 10,000 Any Season league. (757-400).

Finally, a reminder that Torres Magic’s Last Man Standing contest (44937-13340) is still open for entries.

If you are running a community tournament and would like the latest scores included in future Community Round-ups, please email us summary of the current leaders and a link to your league, spreadsheet or head to head competition, at jonty@fantasyfootballscout.co.uk.

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2,626 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Evasivo
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Just logged on to see Morata at a cool £10m, however now I'm struggling to fit him in after saying he'd go straight in my 15

    1. Fantasy Gold
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Yep. Anybody who is going 352/442 with all these forward options is crazy imo

      1. Evasivo
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        343 for me for sure

      2. Vatroslav
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Picking 2 proven strikers and sticking with them is much better than constantly changing and chasing 3 from the 6(Kane, Kaku, Kun, Jesus, Laca, Morata).

    2. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      £10m!!!!! Really? When did this happen? Woh this changes things. Grrr. Only thing is their tough fixtures.

      1. Bun Rab
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        + No Hazard.

    3. bitm2007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Many us had a preseason templates that included a 9m-9.5m forward, but they haven't given us any this season !

    4. Evasivo
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Foster Myhill
      Trippier Cedric Lindelof Yedlin Rosenior
      Redmond Willian RLC Alli Pogba
      Rooney Kane Lukaku

    5. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I'm slightly wavering on Kane.......

  2. TheBusDriver
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    FPL draft is released. I'm so excited. SAID NO ONE EVER!!!

    Really, what's the point of that game? It's going to get cancelled next year for sure.

    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Purest form of fantasy football

    2. bitm2007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Been there, done that last night.

    3. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      No player>player swaps curbs enthusiasm but the draft might be a larf.

      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Why have they done that i wonder?

        Probably to stop cheating ppl ruining the game in all the unmanaged leagues

        1. Netley Lucas
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Yeah 😆

        2. SADIO SANÉ
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          surely you can just drop your best players to ruin a league?

          1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Most fantasy games have top ranked players (round 1 picks) as locked (undroppable) barring long term injury

    4. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Oh no ! . I won't get to hear about you quitting it every week .

    5. bitm2007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      what if we spiced it up. 16 teams, £10 to enter, 1st £75, 2nd £50, 3rd £25 ?

      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        £100 to enter and Manager of the Month awards?

    6. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I think it's cool - it just doesn't work for me isolated out here in Cambodia. You need to play it with a bunch of mates over a flutter, imo.

  3. sentz05
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Two very different teams:

    Foster Elliott
    Cedric Trippier Dunk Rangel Dawson
    Sanchez Carroll Willian Philips Redmond
    Kane Jesus Firminho

    Hart Elliott
    Cedric Trippier Lindelof Rangel Dawson
    Ciutinho Carroll Willian Zaha Redmond
    Lacazette Jesus Lukaku

  4. Atimis
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Bottomed...
    As I'm pretty settled on Lacazette and Kaku IF I decide to also bring Kane, some big sacrifices need to be made.
    The question is, who is more important, Pool player or City player ? What would you do ?

    1. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Pool v City makes no sense.

      Some Pool players will outscore City players, some City players will outscore Pool players.

      1. Atimis
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I'm jsut considering funds/place in my team and it comes to this, basically Coutinho/Salah vs Sane/KDB

        1. Wilshere Knowledge
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          I'd rank them:

          1. KDB
          2. Coutinho
          3. Salah
          4. Sane

          1. Atimis
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Fair enough !

    2. Jake.l_8
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Who are the players

    3. Celt Abroad
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I'd avoid both sides, rotation nightmares.

  5. Thomass
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    RMT...
    How's this lads?

    Foster or Hart
    Trippier, Cedric, Daniels
    Coutinho, KdB, Willian, Alli
    Kane, Morata, Abraham
    Subs: Martinez, Carroll, Rangel, 4.0

    Thanks

  6. HALFSPACE
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Not sold on Foster and WBA, might punt on Hennessey

    1. bitm2007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I took the punt in FPL draft last night.

      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Can you do mock drafts on there?

        1. Jake.l_8
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          no but you can make a league and do the draft and then delete it

  7. Thoughtopsy
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Neymar to the prem?

    1. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Stop dreaming

    2. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Yeah Everton have agreed a fee for him

  8. Net Gains
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone starting with Origi?

    Having such a lazy morning here. Just about to go for a shower. Really need some major transfer news to wake me up.

    1. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      No way

    2. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I can see Solanke being ahead of Origi.

    3. noquarternt
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      haha

  9. Miguel Sanchez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Repost, which 4.5 keeper instead of Foster:

    A) Fabianski
    B) Begovic (I have Daniels)
    C) Hart
    D) Gomes
    E) Other

    1. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Fabian ski iiiii probablski

    2. HALFSPACE
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Gomes has a penalty save in him

    3. Atimis
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      A as fixtures look good

    4. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      If Elliot's nailed might just go 8.0 in goal.

      1. HALFSPACE
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Yeah was thinking this too but even if they dont sign a keeper Elliot is very injury prone

      2. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Who would your other 4.0 be?

        1. Netley Lucas
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Anyone, Myhill, just run Elliot into the ground.

          1. Andy_Social
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Problem is, if Benitez brings in a keeper after GW1, you'll need to make 2 transfers.

            1. Andy_Social
              • 11 Years
              6 years, 10 months ago

              Toss up between Bego and Hart.

  10. La Roja
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    City agree 52m for Mendy

    1. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Dialup?

      1. La Roja
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Yeah

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      6.0m when added I reckon

      1. Dasher0303
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Nah 6.5 if rudiger is 6.0. Mendy got like the highest assists for a defender last season.

    3. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      LB runs into Silva and Sane, can he get past both? 😆

  11. poidlolo
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Foster

    Trippier | Cedric | Daniels

    Matic | Alli | Sanchez | Zaha

    Lukaku | Aguero | Gabbiadini

    Elliot | Rangel | Hunemeier | L.Cheek

    Let me know what you think!

  12. Somalion
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Arsenal bottling it already

  13. Waxys
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Man City ‘agree £51.6m fee’ with Monaco for Benjamin Mendy as spending spree continues

    1. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      ^^

      1. Waxys
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I was more precise with the pricing

  14. Hy liverpool
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Why no love for tekke with those fixtures ??

    1. InSaneMan-e
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Zaha

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Am I in the wrong thread - why is no one talking about Palace v WBA?

        Coming into the last minute and it's been uninspiring. See no reason to take Zaha and RLC out of my draft; other than that Phillips was quite bright, but otherwise, meh.

  15. Home Run Baker
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Zouma loaned to Stoke (old news, I know)
    Priced at 5.5, because he was a CHE player.
    Now priced out of the game with other Stoke defenders 5 or 4.5.
    Surely there's a case for re-pricing him because the season hasn't started yet?
    Would apply to other players too.
    Thoughts?

    1. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      No need.
      You get some you loose some

    2. Hy liverpool
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      What if people already got him ?

      1. Home Run Baker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Why is that an issue?

    3. how now brown cow
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Luck of the draw. Just as if someone from lesser club joins one of the big boys.

      1. Home Run Baker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Not really. It means the player pool just shrunk.

        1. Phil Dagger ⭐
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Nobody would take him even at 5.0 anyway lol...

      2. Home Run Baker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Sure. It's a different situation if a cheap player goes to a top club, though. That hasn't taken the player out of the game - it simply presents a good value option to everyone.

    4. Dasher0303
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      This is a good point. They have never re priced a player tho.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        True, it's a bit of a waste. His price won't even drop if no one had him in the first place.

    5. Do I Not Like Orange
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Not for me. The chance of getting an underpriced asset (if Walcott gets a plum transfer to an attacking side he's nailed in, for instance) outweighs the negatives of the Zouma scenario.

  16. how now brown cow
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Johnny Evans off injured?

    Really feels like football's back.

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      He'll be sore for a day is all.

  17. InSaneMan-e
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Boys. Any idea what mendys price will be?
    He's got no competition really

    1. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      6 or 6.5

    2. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Same as Walker but what's the point? You've seen how citeh already have 5 attackers in most games... will he get into the progressive areas?

      1. InSaneMan-e
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I think he Will! Those attackers will create tons of overlap space
        Just tough between walker and him

        1. Netley Lucas
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Something has to give, either the full-backs can't raid, or one of the 'attacking' positions has to go.

          1. HALFSPACE
            • 6 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Inverted wingers/inside forwards? Similar to Liverpool

      2. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        If he's rotated less I'll take him over those mids.

    3. Dasher0303
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      6.5

  18. chaboi1998
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Which New addition today? Any bargains?

    1. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Robertson 5
      Morata 10
      Murphy 5.5
      Manquillo 4.5
      Jaku 4.5

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Rob 1.5 less than Milner. Hmm.

        Manquillo - couldn't even get in the shambles of a Sunderland defence??

        Jaku - was a star for me late season as a 4.0 keeper who played tons. Now a 4.5 backup - nooo.

  19. Wilshere Knowledge
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    It's amazing how dim commentators can be.

  20. Waxys
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Cmon Arsenal wake up time to get another win with this brilliant formation and system.

    Wenger has managed to reinvent himself again

  21. KUNingas
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    A) Francis + Jesus
    B) Daniels + Morata

    1. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      B

    2. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      B

  22. Waxys
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    As always Per is a starter. To my knowledge Arsenal have been undefeated every game since Per has been starting I expect this to continue

    1. HALFSPACE
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Not this again

  23. COYG
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Is everyone jumping on hart and morata? or are they wait and see?

    1. Waxys
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Hart is the best option ever in the history of FPL... providing he is the same price as the other West
      Ham goalies at 4.5

      1. Phil Dagger ⭐
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Yeah he is 4.5

        1. Waxys
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Wtf hart is in my team now

      2. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Careful now, Rooney might be reading this .....

    2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Hart looks a bit of value

  24. Dasher0303
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Begovic or Fabianski or Foster as keeper with Elliot as second keeper???

    Elliot pretty much nailed if Newcastle don't sign a keeper and even he will be backup according to Rafa comments.

    Begovic and Fabs rotate with Elliot well, but Foster doesn't,but has a very good run of fixtures, although West Brom aren't great defensively these days, especially with the lack of depth and ageing of defence.

  25. poidlolo
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Guys..risky if i start with sanchez?

    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      da fuq? come back in 2 weeks

  26. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Willian close. Arsenal look rubbish at the back.

    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      ooo what channel is that on?

      1. Bun Rab
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        ITV

      2. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        ITV.

    2. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Grabbed his hammy after that miss.

  27. Dr Dream
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Just not the same without Sanchez.

  28. Karan14
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Is the Foster bandwagon over?

    1. Over Midwicket
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Hope so. Not touching West Brom.

  29. Deulofail
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    "This difference between a player’s price and their real value is an issue that Deulofail addresses in his latest discussion."

    Can't help but read that as, "Deulofail has been spamming us left, right and centre, and this is the best of a bad bunch of ill-conceived rants" Hahaha

    Though it could just mean that I address the issue in my latest discussion.

  30. how now brown cow
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Mendy-otamendi-stones-mangala-walker.

    Not how I would have spent £220m.