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Vote for the best FPL goalkeeper of 2019/20

The Fantasy Football Scout end of season awards have officially been launched with the first poll now available to vote in.

As ever, we begin with the goalkeepers, assessing the key candidates on the strengths of their 2019/20 from a Fantasy Football perspective.

Overall points, price and value in Fantasy Premier League are all factors to consider.

It must be said that the goalkeeper position was a tricky one to navigate once again this season, although for completely different reasons than the previous campaign.

In 2018/19, the high-performing assets were largely more expensive ones from big clubs. But their respective sides, of course, required attention in other positions and most of the budget options proved reliable only for short spells at a time.

Arguably, 2019/20 was the complete opposite. This time around, the expensive premium options failed to provide the usual level of consistent returns allowing some of the cheaper mid-price assets to assume ‘set-and-forget’ status. Although, even then, it was a somewhat underwhelming year for goalkeepers in the £4.5m price bracket…

2018/19 Team of the Season Review – Goalkeeper

  • Goalkeeper: Alisson
  • Defenders: Trent Alexander-Arnold, Andrew Robertson, Matt Doherty
  • Midfielders: Sadio Mané, Mohamed Salah, Raheem Sterling, Ryan Fraser, Eden Hazard
  • Forwards: Raúl Jiménez, Sergio Aguero
→ Which team has allowed the fewest number of big chances this season (41)?

After securing a place in the 2018/19 Team of the Season, Alisson did not have the best follow-up campaign.

2019/20 began in the worst way possible for Liverpool’s goalkeeper, as he picked up an injury just 38 minutes into the Gameweek 1 win over Norwich City.

Even though that unlocked Adrian as a £4.5m option in the Reds’ defence, they still only kept two clean sheets from a possible nine before Alisson’s return.

And even the Brazilian’s comeback did not help stop the rot at the back as Jurgen Klopp’s men struggled to match the defensive heights of 2018/19, ironic considering they ended up winning the league this year.

After collecting 21 clean sheets during his first campaign in English football, it took Alisson until Gameweek 16 to secure one in 2019/20. With issues elsewhere in the defence, despite a return from injury in Gameweek 9, he went another seven matches before earning that all-important shut-out.

In the end, Alisson did manage to get a total of 13 but, as is to be expected with a big club, he could only supplement this with 58 saves.

Therefore, it was a score of just 122 points this season, 54 fewer than the year before. It also made for an inferior points-per-game total, Alisson averaging 4.2 in 2019/20 compared to 4.6 in 2018/19.

2019/20 CANDIDATES

DEAN HENDERSON

It was quite the debut campaign in the Premier League for Dean Henderson, whose total of 160 points was the second-highest among goalkeepers, making him a rare shining light among a drab £4.5m bracket.

With four double-figure hauls between Gameweeks 18 and 30+, that impressive overall score came from a total of 13 clean sheets, an impressive tally for a newly-promoted shot-stopper, as well as 16 bonus points and 97 saves.

Those additionals carried mixed value for Fantasy managers. While the 16 from bonus was the third-best in the division, eight different shot-stoppers produced more stops than Henderson.

It is that fact that probably denied the Sheffield United man the prize of highest-scoring FPL goalkeeper, but Fantasy managers should consider the quality of saves Henderson made this season, especially as he could be fighting for starts at Manchester United in 2020/21.

Across the course of this season, the Blades’ goalkeeper recorded an xG Prevented score of +8.30, behind only Hugo Lloris (+9.50). That means the saves he did make were mostly from very high-quality chances. Combining that with Manchester United’s 36 goals conceded in 2019/20 (third-best) could be a powerful pairing next year.

RUI PATRÍCIO

2019/20 was a season of improvement for Wolves’ defence, which was good for the roughly 10% of managers who backed Rui Patrício.

During their debut Premier League campaign, Nuno Espirito Santo’s men were certainly adept at keeping things tight at the back but they often struggled to convert this into clean sheets.

With just eight shut-outs in 2018/19, Wolves’ second season in the top-flight saw a continuation of astute defensive play but, largely thanks to Willy Boly’s return from injury, there was a much more mature approach to closing this out into clean sheets.

It was 13 of these, in the end, of Patrício, the joint-third-best in the Premier League.

That was enough for 153 points across the campaign, the fourth-highest among goalkeepers.

However, what hindered the Portuguese international from taking his Fantasy value to the next level, perhaps combined with his starting price of £5.0m, was the lack of additionals.

With Wolves playing a style of football that largely protects the goalkeeper, he managed only 90 saves and eight points from bonus.

NICK POPE

Even though he missed out on a share of the Golden Glove, 2019/20 was still an incredible campaign for Nick Pope, the only other £4.5m option to offer real prolonged value across the season.

16 clean sheets for Burnley, the club’s highest ever tally in a top-flight season and second only to Ederson this year, was the lynch-pin of Pope’s 170-point score, his best-ever.

But it was the additionals that made the difference for the Clarets’ rapidly improving shot-stopper.

His 120 saves was the fourth-highest in the division while nobody in the same position came close to matching his 23 bonus points.

Pope really does offer the complete package for goalkeepers. Some offer clean sheets without much prospect for saves or bonus, while others can secure those additionals on account of facing more shots but, inevitably, this means fewer shut-outs.

With Burnley’s style of play, which does allow plenty of attempts on goal to their opponents, helps Pope register saves and bonus, but because they are good at limiting these shots to outside of the box, the clean sheets are also much more achievable.

The question now is whether or not this will still constitute value for money in 2020/21 when Pope is likely to be as expensive as £5.5m.

AARON RAMSDALE

While not hitting the dizzy heights of Pope and Henderson, there was something on offer from £4.5m option Aaron Ramsdale for spells in 2019/20.

A total score of 126 points across the campaign does not look too special on the surface but it was good enough to finish in the top-five for the Value (Season) statistic on the official FPL site, working out at 28.6 points per million spent.

Bournemouth’s perennially porous defence allowed Ramsdale to rack up 128 saves, more than Pope and behind only Martin Dúbravka and Tim Krul in the overall standings.

The autumn was when Bournemouth’s goalkeeper was the most popular. Between Gameweeks 6 and 12, the Cherries kept three clean sheets and Ramsdale scored 41 points across the seven matches.

Averaging 5.9 points per game during this period, he also added an assist into the mix, one of just three goalkeepers to register one in 2019/20.

Ramsdale’s efforts have been good enough to earn transfer rumours of a purported move to stay in the Premier League despite Bournemouth’s relegation. Depending on what the future holds for him, Fantasy managers would do well to keep an eye on him moving forward…

MAT RYAN

It was another solid if not spectacular year for Mat Ryan, who was somewhat overshadowed in the £4.5m bracket by Pope and Henderson.

135 points was only just good enough for the top 10 among goalkeepers, and lower than his personal best of 146 during his debut campaign, but there was still something on offer for his 11.5% ownership.

Allowing greater spending elsewhere, the Brighton goalkeeper finished in the top five for points per million spent, his score of 28.7 beaten only by Patrício, Henderson and Pope.

It was also a top-five finish for Ryan’s total of 117 saves and 14 bonus. It was perhaps clean sheets where he came up short compared to the high-performers, with a total of just nine.

However, there is potentially a lot to like about the Australian for 2020/21, who might just be able to stay in the £4.5m bracket for a fourth successive season. If he can sustain his level of saves and bonus with greater conversion rate on the clean sheets could come a landmark season for Ryan.

KASPER SCHMEICHEL

Despite the disappointing finish to the campaign for Leicester City, Kasper Schmeichel was an important Fantasy asset during the first half.

In the first 15 Gameweeks of 2019/20, the Foxes’ shot-stopper produced seven clean sheets, two more than any other during that period. At the end of the campaign, his total of 13 was the third-best in the division.

Eventually, both Pope and Henderson overtook his season score and Schmeichel ended up finishing in third-place among goalkeepers, 156 points his best-ever FPL return.

His starting price of £5.0m and the cheaper option of Caglar Soyuncu in the same defence did stop the former Manchester City man from ever soaking up humongous levels of ownership but for a prolonged period he was one of the most reliable goalkeepers of 2019/20.

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1,375 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Zim0
    • 2 Years
    1 month, 29 days ago

    What do we think Kanes price will be?

    1. Zim0
      • 2 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Also Jimenez

      1. diesel001
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        10m

      2. Jon Snow
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        9 I reckon

    2. diesel001
      • 3 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      11.0m

    3. Rainer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      10.5m

      Can't below 10m.

    4. Jon Snow
      • 5 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Big fat 11m

    5. Greek Freak
      • 5 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      I think they'll both be overpriced - i.e. Kane around 11 and Jimenez around 9.

    6. King Kohli
      • 7 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Kane 10.5/11m, Jimenez 8.5/9m

    7. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      He basically replicated his prior season so expect his price will be the same

      1. Zim0
        • 2 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        Still i think it'll go down by at least 0.5

    8. pingissimus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 29 days ago

      10.5?

      Awkward price point probably. He's right up on my wishlist. Favourable early fixtures and he's all but in.

      Mou does love a cf and there was a stat a couple of weeks back (before his brace) that he has the best goals per game ratio of anyone in Europe this season once you factor in England games too.

      1. Rainer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        Can't really be factoring in games vs Kosovo, Montenegro & Bulgaria.

        1. pingissimus
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 29 days ago

          😉

          Read it somewhere. Sure it's a cheat but it does point to the fact that he's a magnificent striker still. Cracking goal against Palace. And in FPL being the second greediest player around doesn't hurt and it helps that Mou seems to prefer him at the pointy end of the pitch.

          1. Rainer
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            1 month, 29 days ago

            Agree, he'll have a bigger part to play in FPL next season for sure.

          2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            1 month, 29 days ago

            Do goals against Kosovo , Montenegro & Bulgaria provide evidence of a magnificent striker 😉

      2. Zim0
        • 2 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        Yeah i want him but not for 11. So hoping for a reduction

    9. Blue&White85
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Kane 11.0
      Jimenez 9.5

  2. Jon Snow
    • 5 Years
    1 month, 29 days ago

    Closed a 100 point lead to take one of my ML, but was unable to achieve that juicy sweet top 100k finish. Final standing was a respectable (but mediocre compared to some on here) 150k.

    Keys to success (imo):
    Watch more games - the eye test is real, unfortunately I've been preoccupied this season
    'value chasing' in the first few weeks - my TV peaked at 103m, all the big boys are 105+
    More passhun and aggression - Again was unlucky and too conservative in the early weeks (i.e Sterling/Auba not performing). I only took two 4pt hits all season, definitely could have squeezed in more risks.

  3. Riedle Me This, Riedle Me T…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    1 month, 29 days ago

    I know we've only just finished, but any idea when the new season fixtures will be announced?

    1. alastair
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Should be shortly after the final of the playoffs in the Championship.

    2. Rainer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      12th of August maybe.

    3. King Kohli
      • 7 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      I heard around 23rd Aug but not sure

    4. Riedle Me This, Riedle Me T…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Cheers

  4. niko mate
    • 4 Years
    1 month, 29 days ago

    I just saw the guy who won the fpl on our tv news. A fellow bulgarian.

  5. ElliotJHP
    • 8 Years
    1 month, 29 days ago

    Really keen to know Soucek's price, some great underlying stats. Moyesys Fellaini 2.0

    1. diesel001
      • 3 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Soucek, Tierney and Armstrong on my radar for FPL next season.

  6. -GK22-
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    1 month, 29 days ago

    It’s all about ziyech next season

    1. H-SF
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      He’s flopping imo

    2. -GK22-
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Flipping free kicks into the top corner

    3. ClassiX
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      40m for a 6 goal season seems steep.

      1. mynameisq
        • 7 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        6 goals and 12 assists from 21 appearances not too shabby

        1. ClassiX
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          1 month, 29 days ago

          Maybe - but 40% down from previous season. I guess it will depend on his starting price (which could be quite low) and if he's a starter or a substitute player.

    4. yakirh
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      I agree, best Chelsea asset to own

  7. H-SF
    • 4 Years
    1 month, 29 days ago

    I took 10 hits this season, is that considered a lot or too many?

    1. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Meaningless question. It depends if they paid off or not.

    2. Zim0
      • 2 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      I think usually a hit is worth it if u are captaining that person or if u want him long term. Otherwise never take a hit

  8. El Fenomeno R9
    • 4 Years
    1 month, 29 days ago

    Thoughts on Sterling and Mahrez price next season?

    1. zotter
      • 11 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Sterling 12. Mahrez 9.5

    2. Greek Freak
      • 5 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Sterling 11.5. He started this season at 12.0 and he scored fewer points and had a worse points per minute ratio too.

      Mahrez 9.5 looks about right, and will be too much for me sadly.

    3. el polako
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Mahrez's price can't be too high considering how often he is benched or subbed off.

      It would be easier if the 5 subs rule was scrapped.

      1. St Pauli Walnuts
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        See if City sign more mids. Silva and Sane down now. If they don't then he is still a decent shout at 9.5.

    4. Blue&White85
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Sterling 12.5
      Mahrez 9.5

  9. pingissimus
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 1 Year
    1 month, 29 days ago

    Chelsea seem to be buying half a new team.

    There's unlikely to be any preseason to speak of. Assuming Havertz happens and they get a goalie and a defender is this a bit off an avoid early on? Known quantities come first?

    1. Greek Freak
      • 5 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      I'd love to have Pulisic but with him, Havertz, Ziyech, Willian staying etc. there will be too much rotation. Maybe Werner since he's the only recognised striker? (don't think Giroud or Abraham will be threats to his starts)

      1. pingissimus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 29 days ago

        Werner is the asset that most interests me. Agree on that midfield - worse than City's for options. God knows what RLC is thinking.

      2. FOO FIGHTER
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 29 days ago

        Werner would not have signed to play second fiddle to anyone. He probably will be nailed unless he does not hit the ground running.

        1. Greek Freak
          • 5 Years
          1 month, 29 days ago

          My thinking too. Would be an interesting pick depending on price. I have hope he'll be able to accompany an expensive mid without too many sacrifices elsewhere.

          1. FOO FIGHTER
            • 1 Year
            1 month, 29 days ago

            Many say he will be 9+.

            I see him at 8 to 8.5.

      3. bench boost for every gamew…
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        Giroud will play striker unless tweak in formation

    2. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      I'd definitely wait to see how the first team settles in before purchasing any for my squad.

    3. el polako
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Only Kepa for me 😉

      For the comedy value.

  10. KAPTAIN KANE
    • 3 Years
    1 month, 29 days ago

    Has that post about the move to win fpl via ‘cheating’ been removed?
    The original poster I think is getting confused between cheating and exploitation of what the problem actually is, which is leaks.

    The leaks are the problem here, not the player, quite simply. It’s not cheating to exploit using the leaks but I do agree it is somewhat ‘gamebreaking’. Changing the deadline as others have eluded to might help the matter.

    1. Greek Freak
      • 5 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      For the last time, the winner didn't even have Salah in his team. He didn't make any transfers or captain changes based on leaks. The poster was either trolling or posting wrong information.

      1. KAPTAIN KANE
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        Strange to think that though right? Something you certainly don’t troll about

        1. Greek Freak
          • 5 Years
          1 month, 29 days ago

          I guess I'm happy to accept that he read it somewhere and posted it in good faith without checking whether it was true or not.

          1. KAPTAIN KANE
            • 3 Years
            1 month, 29 days ago

            Hopefully

      2. THE WERNER DELUSION
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        only because he didn't have to 😀 all his players were unaffected by leakage

    2. circusmonkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      I am amazed that the top players DIDN'T use the leaks. What is the shame in using them?

      1. KAPTAIN KANE
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        I don’t think there is shame in using them but I do think they ruin the game slightly.

        The one hour deadline is there for a reason, for us to choose our teams and captains etc based on personal judgement, before team sheets are officially out for the first game.

        The leaks create panic, rushed moves/changes and are also not always accurate.
        Not to mention the fact that exploiting it requires constant checking and research in the hours leading up to the deadline every week, which realistically not everyone is able to do.

        1. KAPTAIN KANE
          • 3 Years
          1 month, 29 days ago

          To sum it up better, leaks come from insider information, which in my opinion shouldn’t be used in a game based on judgement.

    3. ClassiX
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Nah - leaks are part of the game. Like debatable VAR decisions and broken goal-line tech that directly influence which team was relegated. Adds flavour and talking points - would hate a perfectly sanitised game.

      1. KAPTAIN KANE
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        Each to their own, I can see the differing of opinion on it.

  11. zotter
    • 11 Years
    1 month, 29 days ago

    Who were your successes and failures this season?

    For me.....

    Getting greenwood around 32+
    Keeping Trent through the Xmas “tough” run
    Lundstrum from gw1
    Auba on Fh38

    Flops....

    Salah captaincy in the late weeks
    Son captaincy for his Chelsea red

    1. Greek Freak
      • 5 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Very broad topic. Too many failures to recall 😀

      Successes were a crazy -8 hit in GW35 that involved selling Salah and KDB - this led to getting and captaining Sterling for his hat-trick. Also Auba captaincy vs. Norwich was pretty sweet.

      1. Greek Freak
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        Just for a short list of failures: clinging too long to clearly bad picks earlier in the season because 'maybe next time they'll score' - Pukki, Tielemans, Lucas Moura, Cantwell...

        Captaining Sterling a lot when he was blanking mid-season.

        Benching Lundstram for his 21-pointer. (this was compounded by the fact that he was about to come off my bench until Otamendi came on for 30 seconds vs. Southampton...)

    2. pingissimus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Successes. Got all theses early at just the right time and as they started to hit and all at base prices or just 0.1 off.

      Vardy
      KdB
      Mane
      Ings
      Grealish
      Pukki
      Lund
      Bruno
      Mo!
      Greenwood

      Failures.

      Also had a combo of Guaita Hendo and Pope for 20 weeks at an average of just over 3 ppm - then got Ryan in for even less.

      Ripped up a perfectly good team in WC21 and never capitalised on my early scouting.

  12. JURGENAUT
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    1 month, 29 days ago

    Mahrez on anyone’s radar next season?

    1. zotter
      • 11 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Depends if city sign a winger to replace Sane...

      As it stands he is probably rotating with Bilva

    2. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      KDB and Phil for me, but for others it might depend on whether Pep buys someone to replace Sane.

    3. yakirh
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Not in a 5 subs season

  13. mynameisq
    • 7 Years
    1 month, 29 days ago

    Actually just went back and had a look at how I started the season and wow. Sterling and Salah captained let me down way more than I actually remembered. Blank after blank after blank, even when they got points it was just an assist or two

    1. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      I remember that - seemed to captain the wrong one every damn time!

      1. mynameisq
        • 7 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        It's actually insane, no wonder my fpl "luck" score was in the minus 60's!

    2. Karan14
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Yup the same happened with me and the problem is that I never got out of the hole those two dig for me early season. Since I was chasing from the start I started ignoring template players Ings, DCL and also sold KDB every now and then which didn't go right at all.

      Definitely learnt some lessons key lessons though!

      1. mynameisq
        • 7 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        Made the same mistake, because of many early fails with those two I ignored template and also went a bit maverick with captains to try and catch up which only pushed me further back. Consistently chose terrible captains this year, even if they seemed obvious. Over reliance on Salah based on what he did in his first season and not recognising other than an early hatrrick sterling was playing very poorly

    3. pingissimus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Strangely I managed to go Mane KdB as an alternative from week 2 but my early captain scores were pretty rubbish too. One great KdB C in week 6 when loads of others fluked him in as a VC and that's all really.

    4. circusmonkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      I had a fair few Sterling Sterling blanks too. Looked reasonable choices, e.g. at home to Southampton shortly after they got mashed.

    5. baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      I remember period for perhaps 10 gw:s when the second best option on paper (without hindsight) scored better than the obvious one.

    6. Dash4
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Sterling triple captain when he got 1 point and bench boost where bench got 3 points in consecutive weeks cost me dearly.

  14. Major League Shocker
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    1 month, 29 days ago

    Was your team value at the end of the season the highest it had been all season?

    Mine peaked in January just before I played my second wildcard, and never regained its former high.

    1. circusmonkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      I spent a fair bit of mine at the end and (104.2) there is nothing wrong with that, you've earned the right.

    2. baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Mine peaked at the end (108 million)

    3. St Pauli Walnuts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      106.7 just now. Can't recall peak, somewhere over 107 but not that close to 108 I think.

      1. Major League Shocker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        1 month, 29 days ago

        That is a pretty similar trend to me -- yours is a bit higher. Mine peaked at 106.9, dropped by 2.0 when I played the wildcard, and then spent most of the rest of the season between 105 and 106.

        I think I went for more differential players late in the season, which may have resulted in capturing fewer price rises.

        1. St Pauli Walnuts
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          1 month, 29 days ago

          Yes I definitely took a big hit in TV during WC but looks like it worked it's way back up again. I don't chase value but I do factor it in and will make a transfer early in week to avoid rises, but only if I planned to make it before the deadline anyway. I think the risk of potential injury in those few days is outweighed by the TV benefits, especially if you have a reasonable bench to cover the occasions where the player you bring in gets injured.

  15. Wolves Ay We
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    1 month, 29 days ago

    People rubbish in my mini-league e.g. never ranked higher than half a million, seemed to have done well this season. Anyone find something similar happened in their ML's?

    1. mynameisq
      • 7 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Yup, people who've always been rubbish suddenly had blinders out of nowhere. The crux of my leagues was Bruno became an option to them as perma cap as man utd players pretty much always seem to get instantly popular, and Bruno happened to return massively. And also I relied heavily on Salah sterling captain while they didn't return, whereas they jumped onto whoever scored last week, was painful watching pukki ings etc outscore Salah and sterling every week

    2. Rashleigh Runabouts
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Yes. I finished second this season in work ML with OR of 350k, my worst finish since I've been taking it seriously in 5 years of playing. Winner was 216K OR which was his best finish in 5 years. Luck was out this year for some reason, despite the extra effort I put in.

    3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      There's no real template

      Think of how many combinations of lottery numbers you can pick with 6 slots and 49 options for each slot

      Now think of how many permutations there are for an FPL team with 11 slots and much more than 49 options...

      1. Rashleigh Runabouts
        1 month, 29 days ago

        Yes very true when you put it like that. The game still has a huge amount of luck, chance, variance, call it what you will associated with it. That said, players who have decent OR year in year out must be finding something extra from somewhere. I'll keep looking!

    4. Brosstan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Yep, happened in all my leagues. People with not even top 100k finisjes winning all of them

  16. JURGENAUT
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    1 month, 29 days ago

    This concept of template team & players, how does it work and where do you check for it? It’s a feature I’m new to

    1. Wolves Ay We
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      There is no actual template team. It's the players that seem to keep appearing in most teams posted by managers on here suggesting there is something about them which makes them worth getting.

    2. circusmonkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      The fpl site shows the PERCENTAGE ownership. Take the highest ownership combo that is affordable, that is the template team. You can subset that for rank tiers to give insight on active managers, cut out the dead teams with popular but Injured players.

    3. Major League Shocker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      1 month, 29 days ago

      They post the top 10K template on FFS most weeks a few hours after the deadline. Usually the article title is some variation on "What the top 10,000 managers did this week" and it contains a graphic representing the top 10K template of most owned players overall, on wildcards, and on free hits. I'd probably consider the "overall" one "the template", with the wildcard one more like an attempt to anticipate what the template will be in the near future and get ahead of the curve.

  17. Cesc's old mullet
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    1 month, 29 days ago

    Hi everyone,

    I just had a look on anewpla.net and realised just how terrible my captain choices have been all season.

    So, trying to improve that next year, and I’m wondering whether I can create some metric by following the Captain Poll here.

    Does anybody know where/if I can access the history of all Captain Poll results for the season?

    1. Wolves Ay We
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      I have a feeling most managers on here had problems nailing captains this season. Maybe the FFS captains poll was the problem and too much reliance on it.

      1. el polako
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        Interesting theory, wonder how many captain poll winners delivered goods in relevant game weeks ?

    2. mynameisq
      • 7 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      I'm sure somebody at some point did analysis that showed if you captained the person 3rd in the poll you'd outscore if you always captained 1 or 2 in the poll

      *disclaimer* this may be totally in my head but I vaguely remember something along those lines

      1. Corgzzzz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        Yes I think you are right, I seem to think someone did this during the lock down period..............

  18. FOO FIGHTER
    • 1 Year
    1 month, 29 days ago

    Points from Salah as cap in order

    24, 6, 30, 18, 6, 4, 14, 4, 16, 26, 6, 6, 20, 14, 48TC, 32, 6, 14, 22, 4, 12, 36, 4

    372 points if my calculations are correct.

    Think there were 2 occasions I capped him and did not play.

    1. FOO FIGHTER
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Sorry, add another 10 as cap.

      382 points.

    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Points since GW25:

      Bruno: 117
      Salah: 47 (when Mane starts with him)

      1. mynameisq
        • 7 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        Do you see Bruno returning next season as heavily as he has so far in half a season? Part of me says no, some assist were him laying it off to someone who scored a worldie, and some penalties were suspect will they get as many

        On the other hand they genuinely earned a lot of penalties and we haven't really seen his full open play scoring potential yet

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          1 month, 29 days ago

          I don't think he can keep going at 117 points every 14 games, as that would leave him scoring 320 points on a 38 game season!

          But he can afford a 20-25% regression & still be hitting in the 250's...

      2. FOO FIGHTER
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 29 days ago

        Add another 158 points from the rest of the players I capped.

        Is 540 points from capped players any good?

        1. ClassiX
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          1 month, 29 days ago

          It's 130 points more than my Cap picks. By my own analysis I correctly captained the highest scoring player in my team only twice the entire season, whereas if you look at the top 10 guys they generally capped their highest scoring player around 9 times in the season.

        2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          1 month, 29 days ago

          Yeah I think that's pretty good, must be nearly 14 points per week from capping, can't complain about that

      3. pingissimus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 29 days ago

        Do you have the stats for Liverpool and United generally since then?

        Vardy also springs to mind here. I40 odd points in the first half of the season when Leicester were a huge force. After that not a lot really and Leicester fell off a cliff too.

        I do have Bruno listed but am mindful that United put in half a good season and it was a very strange season. This time last year Sterling was the must have. He wasn't really. Sterling was a must have in a City side that was flying.

        United fly Bruno comes in?

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          1 month, 29 days ago

          Which stats for pool & United?

          I know that United are literally top of the league since Bruno came in, and Unbeaten

          City are second, but lost 4 games in that time period, Liverpool are third behind City

  19. Smudger’s Dirty Dozen
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    1 month, 29 days ago

    Dropped from top 19k to 27161 this GW...56pts...

    Went for Salah to Sterling last minute (good move) but decided against Salah/Vardy to KDB/Kane for a hit...gutted

  20. FOO FIGHTER
    • 1 Year
    1 month, 29 days ago

    Is 540 points from capped players any good?

    1. Hot Toddy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Yes

      1. FOO FIGHTER
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 29 days ago

        Well then that is atleast one thing I got right this season lol.

    2. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      I'm very smlilar on 538, which is OK I think. Not great, but OK.

  21. Revival
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    1 month, 29 days ago

    Log onto FPL and select stats and then how many times a player appeared in the 'Dream Team'.

    Step forward Stekenlenburg, Gibson, King and Brewster

  22. My heart goes Salalalalah
    • 3 Years
    1 month, 29 days ago

    A lot of you have rivals that is also on here? I susoect my main ML rival discovered this site today, when he had a peep on my PC at work. He later then reas the article about the FPL winner to me, word for word. Soon he'll figure out my username here...

    1. No Totti No Party
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Well if you play for some years you should open this site

      1. My heart goes Salalalalah
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        I made it 3 years with this covert operation then. And 3 wins in our cash ML. Fair fight from now on 😆

        1. No Totti No Party
          • 9 Years
          1 month, 29 days ago

          Yup its gettin harder every year

          1. Old Man
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            1 month, 29 days ago

            Yep.
            a) more people playing
            b) those that are playing are becoming much more savvy - using sites like this

    2. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Well it's not unreasonable that he has access to similar tools that you do - assuming that they're universally available, but he shouldn't have been looking at your PC. You'll still prevail I'm sure.

      1. My heart goes Salalalalah
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        Ha! It's my business partner, and I had to show him some spec sheet. He just got a glimpse of the FFS tab, and that's all she wrote...

        1. Old Man
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          1 month, 29 days ago

          The crafty, beady-eyed sod! 😀

          1. My heart goes Salalalalah
            • 3 Years
            1 month, 29 days ago

            😆

    3. Corgzzzz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      I have the same problem that a few of my guys inc my business partner, now use this site and it dont help that my nick name is Corrggzzz........however I never post my capt picks and I only ask questions about current players and NOT who i will bring in, and sometimes I will ask a question close to deadline which is for their eyes only in the hope they think this is what I am going to do..........

      1. My heart goes Salalalalah
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        HA! That was exactly my thoughts. I will mislead him with some cunning questions and responses. Thing is, I like engaging, because I don't know much about football. I give my honest thoughts, and receive so much valuable info on here. I'll just take it as another fun part of the FPL journey

    4. Zim0
      • 2 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Yes but u lie about stuff to mess with them

      1. My heart goes Salalalalah
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        LOL! See above

  23. Bonus magnet
    • 3 Years
    1 month, 29 days ago

    Anyone know when the fpl site will close and then re-open?

    Have friends who’ve never played who want to register

    1. Zim0
      • 2 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Maybe in 3 weeks. Im guessing

  24. Azathoth
    • 6 Years
    1 month, 29 days ago

    Kiko Casilla's price,4.5 or 5?

    1. Root
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Isn't Meslier their starting GK now?

  25. Moin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    1 month, 29 days ago

    Is there not an annual non auto-renewing payment option for membership, like it used to be?

    Because in renewals, both option states "Your Membership will auto-renew every year."

  26. mynameisq
    • 7 Years
    1 month, 29 days ago

    Just checked, 24 captain fails for me- And the majority weren't even punty or left field picks, Salah and sterling 95% of the time with one or two Jimi and Abraham

    1. Jurgener kopit
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      If you had 24 failures you must have had 14 hits.
      what figure have you used ie + 20 points

      1. mynameisq
        • 7 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        Out of the fails (10 pts and below) there were only 3 that were actually 10 points (assist for 3 points and 2 for playing 60)

        Some were even 1 and 0 points in the fails, wasn't even always 2's

        Anything over 10 is a success so there were 14 of them

  27. FOO FIGHTER
    • 1 Year
    1 month, 29 days ago

    I want to start with Salah and KDB in midfield next season.

    Going to cap which ever one has the home fixture that GW. If both play home the same GW I will toss a coin.

    Reckon this is a good plan to follow and the 2 biggest points monsters in the game.

    1. FALSE PROFIT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      I am willing to have a sizable bet you won't

      1. FOO FIGHTER
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 29 days ago

        Salah was my main cap this season.

        I bet I can easily switch between two set players each GW.

        Obviously injuries etc will mix it up.

        1. JURGENAUT
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          1 month, 29 days ago

          Same strategy here for next season

        2. FALSE PROFIT
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          1 month, 29 days ago

          NAH. The reason I say it is it is most probable KDB won't play the opening game due to them being in CL. It will make it interesting if teams miss the first 2 or 3 gameweeks

  28. Dash4
    1 month, 29 days ago

    Interesting to reflect on the season (which didn’t go badly) and grimace at some of the fails. Callum Wilson for 5 weeks!, Yarmolenko for a 2 week punt, Callum Robinson, DCL for far too long, Snodgrass.

    1. Dash4
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Oh...and I forgot 2 weeks with Zaha, Mousett and ndembele

    2. FALSE PROFIT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Mine are Martial. (had him from the start apart from injury) and Son who guaranteed to do the total opposite from my expectations; if I had him or not.

  29. Teror
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    1 month, 29 days ago

    Salah appears to be in the process of decline. His point totals over the past three seasons are as follows: 303, 259, 233. It wouldn't be unreasonable to suspect this will continue. I'm sure he'll still be one of the top scoring players in the game next season but if his price isn't reduced to a more reasonable 11.5-12 there will be some question marks whether better value can be found elsewhere. But I suspect price rises to the likes of KdB and Mane will offset that.

    1. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Certainly not essential

    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Completely agree

      His decline is very noticeable - worrying even

      1. mynameisq
        • 7 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        A maverick like you should be suggested switching Salah and mane each week based on whether they're home or away!

        1. Rover
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          1 month, 29 days ago

          You might be surprised to know that Salah matched Mane in away games over the course of the season.

          Home : Salah - 148, Mane - 136
          Away: Salah - 85, Mane - 85

          Mane did not feature in 2 away games and was benched in 3 away games.
          Salah did not feature in 3 away games and was benched in 1 away game.

          1. Long ago I drew a walrus
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            1 month, 29 days ago

            I presume you count the away games in which Mane was absent. That's the real takeaway. Salah's a monster when Mane isn't there, regardless of venue

          2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            1 month, 29 days ago

            Wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest, Mane eats into Mo’s returns is the problem

            Salah’s record with & without Mane is telling

    3. FOO FIGHTER
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Not many players get 32 goals in a season. His first season for LFC was increadible. Record points for an FPL player 303.

      Followed by 259, 233 and 233.

      How can that be in decline?

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        In fairness - he's went from 300 points, to 260 points, to 230 points...

        If you draw a line between those three points it's only going one direction!

        1. FOO FIGHTER
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 29 days ago

          Lets do this summary on all big hitters 😀

          1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            1 month, 29 days ago

            So we’re moving past the fact that Salah’s points have been in decline? 😉

    4. HollywoodXI
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      I think he’s still one of the top three players in the league (KDB, Salah and Mané).

      1. JURGENAUT
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        1 month, 29 days ago

        Salah and Mané in the same Fantasy lineup would be fun

        1. HollywoodXI
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          1 month, 29 days ago

          I started the season with both and it worked brilliantly.

          1. JURGENAUT
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            1 month, 29 days ago

            That’s interesting, not heard anyone bank on both in the same lineup . I imagine there was a player who you couldn’t have had because of the price they carry. Which premium player did you neglect in favour of Salah and Mané?

            1. baps hunter
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 2 Years
              1 month, 29 days ago

              I didn't start with both, but I did have them both for some weeks. Feel free to check it out, my team is linked.

          2. Corgzzzz
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            1 month, 29 days ago

            Did you keep them for every GW ?? and what was your season ending OR ?? would you do the same next season ??

            1. JURGENAUT
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              1 month, 29 days ago

              Yeah I want to know the same

        2. KAPTAIN KANE
          • 3 Years
          1 month, 29 days ago

          Had them both in my team for most of the season, ‘‘tis the reason I was 30-50k before the break.
          Went downhill when I got rid of one

          1. JURGENAUT
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            1 month, 29 days ago

            Which one did you get rid of and would you consider having both again from the get go?

    5. KAPTAIN KANE
      • 3 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      I think we should ignore his first freak season for comparatives. That performance of sheer points will probably never be matched by anyone again.
      He was an unknown quality and flourished as a result, plus Mane hadn’t quite hit his potential in the red kit either.

      He is still in decline however definitely, mainly due to Mane scoring a lot, he seems more wasteful and linked to this his bonus potential has suffered.

      I don’t know the stats but I do feel he’s getting a similar number of chances.

      His price next season will be interesting, specifically compared to Mane’s.

  30. HollywoodXI
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    1 month, 29 days ago

    So what is the view on here about FPL moving the deadline to two hours before KO to avoid lineup leaks? No better example of what happens if someone sits and presses F5 constantly before KO to gain an advantage with the overall winner doing just that to come from third place to win (whilst the guy who was TC Salah and had no phone signal all day etc). Is that really in the spirit of the game?

    1. Teror
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Yes it is in the spirit of the game. The truly devoted managers will scour every scrap of information that can help them get an edge on their rivals. It's what separates FFScout users to the casuals. I have no sympathy for a guy who's top of the world going into the final gameweek of the season and decides to do something as reckless as go out with the missus to somewhere where he can't get phone signal. What was he doing? Hiking in nature somewhere? Sorry but that's either hubristic arrogance or an insufficient commitment to the game. It's the final gameweek. Sit yourself in front of your computer and be ready. The missus can wait. Next weekend there's no PL, which means no FPL. Why the rush? You know what? I'm GLAD he didn't finish top. It would've been an insult to those of us who love this game more than life itself.

      1. HollywoodXI
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        Wow. O...K...

      2. Eat my goal!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        Not married then!!

        1. HollywoodXI
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          1 month, 29 days ago

          🙂

        2. HollywoodXI
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          1 month, 29 days ago

          That made me LOL

        3. Teror
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          1 month, 29 days ago

          I'm married to Granville

        4. Werkself
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          1 month, 29 days ago

          FPL is divorce rocket fuel.

    2. FALSE PROFIT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      If they don't FPL Towers should be shot.

    3. diesel001
      • 3 Years
      1 month, 29 days ago

      It should be moved to two hours before the first kick-off because it is fairer for those in different time zones.

      I have seen the argument that you could move the deadline to the time of the first kick-off. I disagree with this in FPL because there is usually only one game that kicks off early. Compare to other popular fantasy games - NFL (there are multiple 13.00 (East Coast time) games all kicking off at the same time), Golf (tee times and conditions are known in advance), UCL (multiple games kicking off at 20.00 UK time) etc.

      The way I see it is like regulation. Throughout history, businesses have tried to push the boat out with innovation, and then the public realise it goes too far and want it clamped down on. A good example of this right now is social media giants and data privacy / data use. FPL is the same. We have allowed the 'innovation' to occur by letting people get line up leaks before the deadline. Now is the time for the 'regulators' to step in.

    4. Thescaff
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 29 days ago

      Can't see it changing Mark & Jules both exploit the leaked team news to their advantage.
      I read somewhere Jules had the Liverpool leak before it went onto twitter?!

      1. diesel001
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 29 days ago

        She works in the media so presumably has access to the PL media site, which has all the PL lineups on it about 15 mins before the FPL deadline. The media site is there for accredited media people to prep for their media work (e.g. discuss who is playing, prepare their reports, sort out graphics for line ups etc.)