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Is it worth paying extra for Wilson over King in FPL?

Callum Wilson (£8.0m) has been handed a significant price rise in Fantasy Premier League ahead of 2019/20 and is now the second-most-expensive FPL forward who doesn’t represent a ‘big six’ club.

The price hike was inevitable after his fine 2018/19 in which he banked 26 attacking returns, more than in his previous three seasons combined.

Wilson’s points-per-match average of 5.6 was beaten by only three other FPL forwards (the £11.0m+ trio) and better than any of his Bournemouth teammates.

While Wilson has been handed a £2.0m price rise, Joshua King (£6.5m) costs exactly what he did 12 months ago.

There’ll be many Fantasy managers, then, who will be seriously considering the cheaper King as their Bournemouth coverage from Gameweek 1 onwards.

Investment in the Cherries’ FPL assets certainly looks appealing from the off, as they face all three promoted clubs and only one of last season’s top four in the opening ten Gameweeks – although matches against Everton and Leicester may prove tricky.

With that in mind, we will run a comparison of the two Bournemouth forwards in this article.

This piece would usually only be available to Members but we are temporarily unlocking it to give non-subscribers an idea of the type of analysis we produce behind the paywall.

The ‘King v Wilson’ idea was proposed by The FPL Physio, FPLFoxy and Man Getting Hit By Football on Twitter and on our site.

2018/19 FPL Data

Overall

PlayerAppsGoalsAssistsPoints per matchDouble-digit haulsBlanks
Wilson29 starts, 1 sub app14125.66/30 (20%)15/30 (50%)
King34 starts, 1 sub app1234.04/35 (11.4%)25/35 (71.4%)

Wilson was, quite simply, a more reliable option than King last season.

Wilson has a reputation for streakiness (six blanks and three double-digit hauls in the last nine Gameweeks an example of that) but banked more returns of ten or more points and blanked on fewer occasions, too.

King’s points-per-match average was some way short of Wilson’s, meanwhile.

Home

PlayerAppsGoalsAssistsPoints per matchDouble-digit haulsBlanks
Wilson15 starts564.81/15 (6.7%)7/15 (46.7%)
King18 starts935.33/18 (16.7%)10/18 (55.6%)

Interestingly, King was more than a match for Wilson at the Vitality Stadium.

The Norway international averaged more points per match than his strike partner and racked up more double-digit hauls.

The difference essentially came down to penalties: four of the five spot-kicks that King scored last season were in home games.

Again, though, Wilson was more consistent, returning in a higher percentage of his home fixtures.

Away

PlayerAppsGoalsAssistsPoints per matchDouble-digit haulsBlanks
Wilson14 starts, 1 sub app966.45/15 (33.3%)8/15 (53.3%)
King16 starts, 1 sub app302.71/17 (5.9%)15/17 (88.2%)

There was no contest between the pair on the road, with King blanking in all but two of his 17 appearances.

Wilson was a rarity among Premier League players in that he was more productive on his travels than on his own patch.

2018/19 broke the trend of recent seasons: King had actually scored more goals away than at home in his previous two campaigns, while the opposite was true of Wilson.

v Non-‘Big Six’ Sides

PlayerAppsGoalsAssistsPoints per matchDouble-digit haulsBlanks
Wilson22 starts, 1 sub app12126.4
6/23 (26.1%)10/23 (43.5%)
King24 starts924.33/24 (12.5%)16/24 (66.7%)

Given that Bournemouth play only one of the ‘big six’ in the first seven Gameweeks, it may pay dividends to analyse their strikers’ form against the also-rans of the Premier League in 2018/19.

Wilson again comes out on top: all bar two of his 26 attacking returns were against sides ranked seventh or below.

The England international registered more double-digit hauls and fewer blanks than King against these opponents.

Wilson v King: Heatmaps

Touch heatmaps for Callum Wilson (left) and Josh King (right) in 2018/19

The heatmaps above underline what we know already about the Bournemouth strike pair in that Wilson tends to be the more advanced of the two (see the average position charts in any number of the Cherries’ games last season).

While Wilson remains fairly central, King has a tendency to drift wide – note the mass of red down each flank and the left in particular.

Wilson v King: Goal Threat

Underlying goal threat statistics for Callum Wilson (left) and Josh King (right) in 2018/19. Most figures given are averages per appearance.

While Wilson has a definite edge, there isn’t a great deal to separate the pair in terms of goal threat.

Their rate of shots is pretty similar, although the better quality of Wilson’s chances (shots in the box, big chances etc) is notable.

Wilson had 15 shots from inside the six-yard box last season (only two players had more), while King had seven.

As we have discussed, Wilson and King were well matched at home in terms of FPL returns.

Wilson was head and shoulders above his strike partner for goals on the road but, looking at the underlying stats only in away matches, King fares well:

Underlying goal threat statistics for Callum Wilson (left) and Josh King (right) in 2018/19 away matches. Most figures given are averages per appearance.

King actually averaged more penalty box touches, shots on goal and efforts from inside the opposition area on the road last season, although Wilson again had a significant advantage when it came to ‘big chances’.

Only five players had more shots from inside the six-yard box than King (five) on the road, one of whom was Wilson (ten).

Wilson v King: Creativity

Underlying distribution statistics for Callum Wilson (left) and Josh King (right) in 2018/19. Most figures given are averages per appearance.

Again, there was little to separate the pair when it comes to creativity.

Their minutes-per-chance created averages were similar, with Wilson having a slight edge when it came to big chances created.

Isolating only away games, King bettered Wilson for almost every underlying distribution statistic apart from the one that matters, of course: actual assists:

Underlying distribution statistics for Callum Wilson (left) and Josh King (right) in 2018/19 away matches. Most figures given are averages per appearance.

Wilson v King: Expected Goal Data

Home Matches
Expected goal involvement data for Callum Wilson and Josh King in 2018/19 home matches.

King’s better FPL record at home last season is played out in his expected goal involvement data above, with both Bournemouth strikers slightly exceeding expectation (xGI deltas of +2.00 and+1.37).

Away Matches
Expected goal involvement data for Callum Wilson and Josh King in 2018/19 away matches.

This is the really interesting one.

Wilson’s xGI on the road was indeed higher than King’s but only by a similar margin that the Norwegian had at the Vitality.

What’s notable is their respective xGI deltas: only Wilfried Zaha (£7.0m) ‘overachieved’ more than Wilson (+5.34) in away games last season, while not a single Premier League player underperformed to the same extent as King (-3.39).

That would suggest the gap between their respective FPL returns on their travels (Wilson 15, King three) ought to have been closer.

Wilson’s record with Fraser

Half of Callum Wilson’s goals were set up by Ryan Fraser in 2018/19.

Wilson and Ryan Fraser (£7.5m) made Premier League history last season.

The pair combined for 12 goals in total, with Fraser assisting Wilson on seven occasions and Wilson returning the favour five times.

No other two players have combined for as many goals in a 38-match Premier League season.

Not one of King’s goals was assisted by Fraser.

It would stand to reason that King wouldn’t benefit from the Scotland international’s creativity as much, given that the Norwegian has a tendency to drift over to the same side of the pitch that the left-winger operates from (see the heatmaps).

Fraser’s crosses and passes, then, will generally be of greater benefit to the striker who is more prominent in the centre of the box, i.e. Wilson.

Being supplied by a player who created a staggering 28 big chances last season (nine more than any other Fantasy asset) and fired over more crosses (271) than any other midfielder is obviously an advantage that Wilson has.

Final Thoughts

Joshua King is Bournemouth’s first-choice penalty taker as the Premier League gets ready to roll out VAR for the first time.

A price rise was justified for Wilson after his exploits in 2018/19 but the data suggests he and King aren’t too mismatched in terms of overall attacking potential.

Wilson being the more advanced of the two means he will likely continue to get more ‘big chances’, while his telepathic partnership with Fraser is also a boon.

The fact that he blanked on fewer occasions than King and delivered more double-digit hauls is significant, too.

If the pair were to repeat their points-per-match averages of last season at the prices they are now, Wilson would still win out on the value-for-money metric (points per match divided by price):

PlayerPricePoints Per Match (PPM)PPM/Price
Wilson£8.0m5.60.70
King£6.5m4.00.62

King’s misfortune in having the worst xGI delta of all Premier League players in away games is worth noting, though, and a player of his quality surely won’t ‘underachieve’ to the same extent again.

The Norwegian is also (presumably still) the first choice for penalties at Bournemouth, which could partially compensate for Wilson’s superior threat from open play.

It’s right that Wilson now costs more in FPL but £1.5m is quite the difference this season when we Fantasy managers have to make savings to accommodate the premium options elsewhere.

For those looking at a 5-4-1/4-5-1 with a cheap-ish striker up front, then King certainly fits the bill.

It isn’t just King and Wilson who could ‘cover’ the Bournemouth attack in their opening fixtures, of course.

Fraser delivered more points than either of these two options last season and is available for half a million cheaper than Wilson.

We’ll have more on the Scottish winger over the summer, starting with a Numbers Game piece on Bournemouth next week.

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1,089 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Lebowski85
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 months, 11 days ago

    I finally woke up to TAAs points per minute last season. Wtf?!

    1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Different gravy

    2. Netley Lucas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      6.4, you saw what he was doing? Those lovely crosses into the box? So much better quality than Robbo delivers but tbf Robbo does knock a nice low ball across.

    3. pingissimus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Yep - he looks the pick of them

      Add in that he probably came of age in that semi and tactical rotation seems way less likely now. Im thinking he'll just get the odd rest.

    4. Snevitz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Captain material for those without Salah.

      1. pingissimus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Thats my thinking

        I effectively covered Mo when he was TC last season and hit a hattie by captaining Robbo and having double defence, I even got a green arrow,

        It won't work every time but it has helped me believe that it's a runner as a strategy in home matches sometimes.

        1. Snevitz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          3 months, 11 days ago

          In the first 10 weeks TAA in weeks 1,2 and 7.
          Sterling all the other weeks...not that I've made plans or anything...

    5. Lallana
      • 5 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      TAA used to play midfield in Liverpool's academy. Can do all types of passes and is fantastic at corners (which Liverpool have tall Virgil and Matip attacking)

      1. Lebowski85
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Yeah, fantasy football aside. I genuinely think he's easily got the potential to be the best player in the England squad & could well become the best player in the world for his position down the line

    6. panda07
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Are you worried about rotation with Gomez?

      1. Snevitz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        When has this rotation happened previously? People went on about it second half of last season but he played nearly every game he was fit for.

        1. panda07
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 months, 11 days ago

          Gomez was injured for a good chunk of the second half of the season

      2. Lebowski85
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Nah, not this year.

      3. ewangri
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Joe Gomez is a CB that CAN play RB if needed, not a RB.Not a threat to TAA minutes unless rested.

        1. panda07
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 months, 11 days ago

          TAA will be rested at times though and Milner can play RB too. VVD is 0.5m less and is nailed every match barring injury. It's a tough choice between the two

  2. Lallana
    • 5 Years
    3 months, 11 days ago

    13 apps, 3 goals, 4 assists
    Would love Tielemans at 5.5M

    1. Netley Lucas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Yeah we all would, expect 7.5, intriguing price...

      1. Lallana
        • 5 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        7.5M?! Wow. Not for me then haha. Rather spend 0.5M more on Siggy

        1. Netley Lucas
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 months, 11 days ago

          Might be 7 as Snevitz reckons, but I doubt his quality will be under.

          1. noquarternt
            • 4 Years
            3 months, 11 days ago

            Surely 7

    2. Snevitz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      No chance he's that cheap.
      My guess would be £7m.

      1. pingissimus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Agreed

        There's no way he's cheaper than Maddison imo.

    3. I Member
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      5.5?! Keep dreaming.

  3. The Royal Robin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Would you prefer Jota or Perez? And yes I know they don't play in the same position 😉

    1. sfsfsfe
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Would rather have Jota BUT the Europa league is annoying to have in the back of your head

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 10 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Members area ftw. Really need to see the Perez role. Jota has Europa to worry about.

      1. The Royal Robin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Jota was fantastic last season though, it's not as simple as that, is it?

        1. Lebowski85
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 months, 11 days ago

          He was a bit streaky though right? I seem to remember he was in every team Pre-Season and was subbed out by Gameweek 2/3

        2. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 10 Years
          3 months, 11 days ago

          Perez was pretty good ending the season.

    3. Netley Lucas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      You know the answer and they do.

      1. The Royal Robin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Go on?

        1. Netley Lucas
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 months, 11 days ago

          I think Jota is the best 6.5 across all attacking options. He is a real old fashioned type. With Jim, he'll cause mayhem to all sides bar the best. Perez is a floater, drift in and do damage, 2 different types, brutal v cultured.

    4. PatrickLee
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Perez

    5. OneMan
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Perez as Jota, will not score as many points this season, due to be listed as a striker.

  4. sfsfsfe
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 1 Year
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Been tinkering for ages and this is the most stable composition I've got together. Feel free to make my doubt my judgement for the rest of the season

    Ryan (Button)
    Taa - Robbo - Laporte - Coleman (Kelly)
    Salah - Sterling - Siggy - Zaha (Dendoncker)
    King - Deulofeu (Greenwood)

    1. OneMan
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      I like it, but if Zaha moves to Arsenal, his gametime could be limited.

  5. Worsle90
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Son or KDB long term chaps?

    1. The Royal Robin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Son, less injury prone. KDB to start with from the two though.

      1. Lebowski85
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        I've got KdB but Son at home first game is intriguing

        1. PatrickLee
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          3 months, 11 days ago

          i thought Son was out of first two games? Suspended?

        2. Worsle90
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          3 months, 11 days ago

          Unfortunately he’s suspended until 24th Aug

          1. Lebowski85
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            3 months, 11 days ago

            That makes that decision easy then. Alli?

            1. Worsle90
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 3 Years
              3 months, 11 days ago

              Long-term is the conundrum. Don’t really like Alli. Would just hold big dollar in Kane for the first gameweek if was desperate for Spurs returns

    2. sfsfsfe
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Son is the better option for me

      1. Worsle90
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        I’m struggling with it. They’re probably my two favourite players in the league

    3. OneMan
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Son is suspended. But once he returns and if Eriksen leaves I think he will be good value for money.

    4. Netley Lucas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      There is no long-term bar dead teams. KDB is a 200+, Son isn't.

      1. Lebowski85
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Doesn't it depend how KdB delpoys? Before he got injured last season I seem to remember he was much deeper than the year before.

        I can't remember, but where abouts was he lining up towards the end of last season?

        1. Worsle90
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          3 months, 11 days ago

          Rodri signing might suggest a freer role?

          1. Lebowski85
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            3 months, 11 days ago

            That's a good point

        2. Netley Lucas
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 months, 11 days ago

          KDB's fitness is key, stays fit and 200+is well on. This season's Mane if fit.

    5. PatrickLee
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      KdB. Got to be the best value going.

    6. noquarternt
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      If KDB goes back to what we know, being one of the 2 advanced mids in the 433... he'll be a steal and everyone will have him.

      An injury to Kane is probably needed for Son to be invaluable, but he's playing the best football of his life...

      Good potential for both, but KDB probably.

  6. OneMan
    • 3 Years
    3 months, 11 days ago

    I think Deulofeu could be a steal at 6.5m.

    Anyone else know of any players that they think are good value for money ?

    1. sfsfsfe
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 11 days ago

      I think one of the burnley-boys will do great (wood, Barnes or gudmundsson)

      1. PatrickLee
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Wood, agreed.

    2. PatrickLee
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      KdB...All the attacking defenders...Zaha.

    3. Netley Lucas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Value against obvious alternatives? I'll have a shot...

      Zinc over Mendy, either over Laporte.
      Digne over Coleman.
      TAA over Robbo, Robbo = VVD
      Jota over Jim
      King over Wilson
      Perez over all LEI middies
      Mo over Mane
      Sterling over Kun
      Siggy over Rich

      1. Worsle90
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Oddly would go for Mané over Salah for value. Think Salah’s newly-cultivated selfishness will end up damaging his game

        1. Netley Lucas
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 months, 11 days ago

          If he can perform away, he could, but for now Mo's mill over him is too tight.

          1. Worsle90
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 3 Years
            3 months, 11 days ago

            It is tight. But just don’t feel there’s much of a gulf in quality there. It’s a personal preference, but just saw some quite bad habits forming in Salah’s game which suggested a bit of an inflated ego. Mané played with industry, humility and lashings of quality thoughout

            1. Netley Lucas
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 4 Years
              3 months, 11 days ago

              I don't think Mo had a great season, that miss @whm seemed to deflate him personally, it was just so lazy when he should have buried it. Mane went from strength to strength at home, they are competing and you may have a point.

      2. Worsle90
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Maguire signing to Utd would make De Gea good value vs all the other 6.0 and 5.5s

    4. Snevitz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Every player in my team is there because I think they will over perform vs their price tag in their next 6/7 fixtures...except my captain (highest PPG possible is deciding factor) and some bench fodder (making it on the pitch is an achievement).

  7. PatrickLee
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Right! I've narrowed it down to two draft teams and help on the best one, plus any feedback, would be really appreciated:

    Option 1:

    Lloris (Button)
    Laporte, TAA, Coleman, Simpson, Azpi
    Sterling, Mane, KdB, Perez, Dendoncker
    King, Barnes, X Silva.

    Or, option 2:

    Heaton (Button)
    Laporte, TAA, Coleman, Simpson, Azpi
    Sterling, Salah, Perez, Hayden, Dendonker
    Kane, King, X Silva.

    Thanks!

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 10 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Lloris, Mane, KDB, Barnes or Heaton, Salah, Hayden, Kane

      How often do you play Hayden/Dendonker?

      1. Worsle90
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        The first lot for me. Going to see how Kane gets on early on. Won’t throw 11m down on someone who can famously not score in August

  8. The Royal Robin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Any Saints fans online who know if Adams will be your main striker and whether he'll partner Ings?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 10 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Preseason will tell the story. Ings is flat out getting a run of games without injury.

  9. Bobby Digital
    • 2 Years
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Rank these players:

    A) Auba
    B) Sterling
    C) Kane
    D) Salah
    E) Aguero

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 10 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Their price ranks them.

      1. Bobby Digital
        • 2 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        According to that logic I should go for Salah, Kun and Sterling.

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 10 Years
          3 months, 11 days ago

          With unlimited funds, sure.

    2. noquarternt
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      D
      B
      E
      C
      A

      Out of fear. Although taking prices in, I think Kane is looking better.

    3. Sporting Lion
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Salah, Sterling, Aguero, Kane, Auba

  10. Worsle90
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    3 months, 11 days ago

    While we’re at it. Rank these:

    A) Zaha
    B) Deulofeu
    C) King
    D) Maddison
    E) Giroud

    1. baps sniffer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Too difficult 😉 CBDAE? BCDAE? Yet Giroud might be gold.

      1. baps sniffer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Or perhaps Zaha over Maddison

        1. Worsle90
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          3 months, 11 days ago

          Haha yeah it's a toughie

    2. noquarternt
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Giroud could be first or last.

      Think the rest are pretty similar but would put King above them.

      1. Lallana
        • 5 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        yikes watching giroud he's pretty good but 40 apps, 5 goals for Chelsea? I know he's a sub a lot but wow.

        1. noquarternt
          • 4 Years
          3 months, 11 days ago

          Yeah do it per minute. And Chelsea's style was all about getting it to Hazard on the floor. If Lampard has crossing to a target man in mind... 7.0 could look like a steal.

          1. Worsle90
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 3 Years
            3 months, 11 days ago

            Thinking along these lines

          2. Lallana
            • 5 Years
            3 months, 11 days ago

            Definitely value in Chelsea this year with their transfer ban

    3. Netley Lucas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Too much uncertainty atm, try again in a month mate. 😆

      1. Worsle90
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Could be an out-of-office reply to each and every one of these posts. We're all jumping the gun

        1. Netley Lucas
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 months, 11 days ago

          True, but Zaha, Giroud, take them out.

    4. Lallana
      • 5 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Really hard to for me.

      Leicester look so good with their new signings. We could be sleeping on them so Maddison could do even better.

      I have Deulofeu but he's more expensive and now a classified as a midfielder...not a fan of that. I needed a 6.5M player though.

      If I could choose. King>Giroud>Zaha>Maddison>Deulofeu for the opening games.

      1. Lallana
        • 5 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        striker*

      2. Worsle90
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Fair enough. King is the only one to be relied upon, I agree

  11. baps sniffer
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 1 Year
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Ederson/ Button
    TAA, VvD, Laporte, Coleman / Dunk
    Mane, KdB, Siggy, Richa, Fraser
    King / Wickham, Nketiah

    There is something wrong in this dull 4-5-1 team, but I am uncertain what. KdB vs TOT on gw2 is not a best fixture for example. Yet downgrading him makes getting Sterling in more difficult.

    1. Netley Lucas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      If you're going Mane then get Kun too, great caps and both homers. That last word is key.

      1. baps sniffer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 11 days ago

        True, but do I need him before gw4 with these fixtures?

        1. Netley Lucas
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 months, 11 days ago

          Yes, if you go Mane you must have a solid GW2 cap, KDB isn't.

          1. baps sniffer
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 1 Year
            3 months, 11 days ago

            Yes, but is Spurs fixture good enough to captain MCI player?

            1. Netley Lucas
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 4 Years
              3 months, 11 days ago

              Yep, Sterling or Kun. I am saying Kun because Mane is such a homer, as is Kun, it could work well for a while until they both away.

            2. baps sniffer
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 1 Year
              3 months, 11 days ago

              MCI won Spurs last year only 0-1 and 1-0. I fear there will be no goalfest this year either.

              1. Netley Lucas
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                3 months, 11 days ago

                Good luck bud, play your cards the way you see them.

    2. Snevitz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      You have no stand out captain unless you think Mane will have better PPG than last season.
      Don't worry about premium players fixtures.
      I'd rather only have one non playing outfield sub.

      1. baps sniffer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 11 days ago

        I believe Mane is decent captain option in home games. GW2 captaincy is a problem though.

    3. Iceball
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      I like it, might do similar but 442. Everton fixtures are key before WC. Problem could be if Salah,Kun, Kane goes crazy then difficult to jump on them right away and might be captain trouble. Good value all around.

      1. baps sniffer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Considering 4-4-2 also, it might be more flexible and a bit safer.

        1. baps sniffer
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          3 months, 11 days ago

          If Auba moves to Man Utd Laca might become an option over KdB. That would also give me Dendoncker on bench (over Nketiah).

          I think both Auba and Laca did quite well last season, but had quite low tsb.

          1. MeatPieSausageRoll
            3 months, 11 days ago

            Auba is definitely coming to us bro 😀 he can be are MVP

  12. Lallana
    • 5 Years
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Happy with my team...for now...pending pre-season...injuries...new signings 😉

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 10 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Happy with my autopick team 🙂

      1. Lallana
        • 5 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Might as well at this point haha

  13. Irbox ⚽
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Hey peeps, good to be back. Reckon I’ve nailed it here. Thoughts?

    Ederson
    TAA VVD Digne Mendy
    Salah Sterling Siggy McArthur
    King Deulofeu

    Button Dendoncker Balbuena Nketiah

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 10 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      The M's suggest you haven't nailed it.

      1. Irbox ⚽
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        I disagree.. easy exchange for Laporte/Zinchenko depending on pre-season and McArthur is as good as any 5.5

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 10 Years
          3 months, 11 days ago

          The 5.5s are all meh then. You'd do better playing 5 at the back.

          1. Irbox ⚽
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 2 Years
            3 months, 11 days ago

            It’s tempting, however, I really think that inhibits structure and flexibility moving forward

            1. Lallana
              • 5 Years
              3 months, 11 days ago

              I'd try to distribute funds better. 5 at the back could be a nightmare to change later for sure.

              Just do something like Mendy>Ake and McArthur>Perez

              Mendy not certain to play.

            2. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 10 Years
              3 months, 11 days ago

              Unless McArthur starts well, the extra transfer to change formation will be worthwhile. Sounds like McArthur is a short term pick and won't stay long either way.

              1. Irbox ⚽
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 2 Years
                3 months, 11 days ago

                For sure mate, still very early doors anyway.

    2. Netley Lucas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Zinc & Perez & Kelly and we are close, Jota.

    3. Lallana
      • 5 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      VVD>Robertson
      Digne>Coleman

      but I like it.

      I got Harry Kane myself over Sterling but who knows anymore!

  14. Irbox ⚽
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Who’s got the inside mail on Rondon and Mitrovic?

  15. sirmorbach
    • 3 Years
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Bold prediction: Chelsea's #9 will be Batshuayi, and he'll prove to be a FPL bargain.

    1. Netley Lucas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      If I was FPL right now I'd price him at 7m, that would be about right?

      1. sirmorbach
        • 3 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        I too would price him at 7m. And while indeed not from the get go, I think it will be well worth it down the line.

        1. Netley Lucas
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 months, 11 days ago

          It certainly adds to the cheap forward line mix, how times have changed eh?

      2. Collie01
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        I'd probably go 6.5. Jimenez after a great year last year is only 7.5, and hard to see Bats more expensive than proven strikers such as Deeney, King, Jota. Just my opinion. Of course they have Rashford at 8.5 so obviously playing for a top 6 club comes into pricing.

    2. Collie01
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Bats has played quite well whenever I've seen him play. Definite potential and one to watch. Interesting to see what price he'll come in at.

      1. sirmorbach
        • 3 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Agreed. I like him quite a lot.

    3. Lallana
      • 5 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Lampard wasn't afraid to use experience with Derby

      Giroud a world cup winner

      1. noquarternt
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Yeah I'm not sure why everyone thinks Chelsea will just be all their youth players ignoring that Pedro and Willian are still there...

  16. Powerplay
    • 1 Year
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Any love for having Wilson, King and Fraser all on the pitch?

    1. Collie01
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      No. While Bournemouth have a tendency to click a few times in a season, they are unpredictable, can go on losing streaks and blank often.

      1. Snevitz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        They got loads of goals from their easy first 10 fixtures last season, Wilson got injured for the tricky fixtures in the middle of the season and then, when he was back they had s reasonable finish to the season.
        They have easy fixtures again this season to start off with so why not capitalise?

    2. Snevitz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Yes, all three are in my team.

      1. Powerplay
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 11 days ago

        thank you for the feedback. much appreciated and agree with each view but I'm looking at those three (due to the easy start of the season) plus 3 from Liv and Man City

  17. Collie01
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Are we going to see a break up of the traditional big 6 this year? Looks like it's shaping up to be a real 2 horse race again for the PL title.

    Chelsea - Star man gone. New manager who is fairly untested, transfer ban in place, loanees coming back in to otherwise aging team.

    Arsenal - Have seen no intention to strengthen at the back, an area they desperately need new players in. Really poor defensively last season and looks like they are still relying on aging players like Monreal and Koscielny. They look a bit light upfront too, Ramsey gone, Ozil and Mkhi aren't getting any better/younger.

    Man Utd - Looking like they will lose sometimes frustrating yet marquee players in Pogba and Lukaku. Herrera gone and Matic looking old at times last season, they need reinforcements. OGS looking to build to the future but they could struggle this season.

    Spurs - Look well placed on paper to get 3rd and be a bit ahead of Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal.

    Bit of a ramble there, but I was just thinking in FPL terms, that it seems unusual to be going into the new season happy to pretty much skip over 4 of the top 6 teams in our team selections.

    1. Irbox ⚽
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Definitely between City and Pool again, Everton will be pushing for Top 6

      1. Collie01
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        I agree. Leicester could push too but lots depends on if they get Tielmens and keep Maguire.

    2. Worsle90
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      It will be another scrap for 4th between Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal, I agree. I think it will end in that order.

      1. MeatPieSausageRoll
        3 months, 11 days ago

        you legend go on utd lol

        1. Worsle90
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          3 months, 11 days ago

          Haha

    3. MeatPieSausageRoll
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Neymar wants to leave PSG and Erickson has apparently asked Ole if he can come. If we could add De Ligt and Tielemans and I think it’ll easily be a two horse race between is and City

    4. Netley Lucas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Everton, Leicester & Wolves certainly gunning for Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal, Spurs should be okay and the top 2, say no more.

    5. noquarternt
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      They'll all scrape enough. Top 2 and top 6 will be the same.

  18. Albrightondknight
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Thoughts on this 352?
    Would like KDB at the price but can wait a few weeks.

    Ryan

    Robbo TAA Laporte

    Sterling Mane Siggy Moura Brooks

    King Calvert-Lewin

    Button Dunk Kelly Nketiah

  19. Iceball
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Perez or Maddison?

  20. Jay Jay Okocha
    • 6 Years
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Bit of a weird one:

    A) 4.5 def + Robbo/TAA
    B) Christensen + VVD

    1. Iceball
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      A for now unless you have a hint Christensen will be a starter? And yes, a weird one. I remember Christensen run and if you have a hint he plays, I might go for him 🙂

    2. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Probably A. Not sure Christensen plays.

    3. cravencottage
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      B as I don’t think any 4.5 will score high enough. Only risk is that Christensen may not start but pre season will tell

    4. Jay Jay Okocha
      • 6 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Obviously this assumes Christensen is the likely starter alongside Luiz

      1. noquarternt
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Why would he be?

        1. Jay Jay Okocha
          • 6 Years
          3 months, 11 days ago

          Rudiger out for a while, Zouma likely off, and a transfer ban to boot.

  21. Albrightondknight
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Is Moura a good pick given Son suspension?

    1. noquarternt
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Doesn't seem to be getting much attention, but definitely. Price is right.

    2. Netley Lucas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Short-term yes, but if it makes other issues problematic, no. I have looked, it's a no, but I may be wrong.

  22. Patty
    • 5 Years
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Early RMT

    Heaton
    TAA Robertson Laporte Digne
    Salah Siggy Zaha Perez
    Kane King

    Button El Mohamady Dendoncker Wickham

    1. Netley Lucas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      The sacrifice of MAC seems too much to bear, why?

      1. Patty
        • 5 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        MAC?

        1. Netley Lucas
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 months, 11 days ago

          Yeah, Manchester City, you know this

  23. SomeoneKnows
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Would appreciate your thoughts on the following two dilemmas? All will be utilized in my starting XI

    1) Ryan + Laporte
    2) Ederson + Ake

    A) Fraser + Kodjia
    B) Zaha + Murray/DCL

    1. Netley Lucas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      You may change, post the full team & subs.

      1. SomeoneKnows
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Currently at:

        Ryan
        TAA, Robertson, Laporte, Digne
        Salah, Sterling, Sigurdsson, Fraser
        King, Kodjia

        (Button, Kelly, Dendoncker, Wickham)

        1. Netley Lucas
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 months, 11 days ago

          Kodjia looks iffy, but hey, why not?

        2. Tony Moon
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          3 months, 11 days ago

          Kodjia won't play often. Didn't feature much last season, even though I like him as a player.

          1. SomeoneKnows
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 3 Years
            3 months, 11 days ago

            Good to know, when I drafted him in he was the only listed AVL striker 🙂

            Guess I'll have to "downgrade"
            TAA & Fraser > Van Djik & Zaha

            And use the extra million for Kodjia > Jota or Deulofeu

  24. Kane Lane
    • 4 Years
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Can't wait for Kane to shut up non owners when he bags a hatty GW1 everyone runs to him

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 10 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Probably needs to be 3 penalties. Doesn't have the things needed for a hatty in GW1 otherwise. Look for the common factors when he does well.

    2. Netley Lucas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Post your team bud, let's have a good look.

    3. Goodish
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Hope so mate

  25. Steevo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Best def/mid combo for 10.5?

  26. Crashjct
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Here’s my latest draft:

    Ederson (Button)
    TAA VVD Digne Laporte (Kelly)
    Salah Sterling Zaha Perez (Dendoncker)
    King Deulofeu (Nketiah)

    Any thoughts? Thank you in advance.

    1. Dakes.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Haha pretty good, similar to mine below

    2. Goodish
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Don’t like deulofeu or only having 1 playing sub but it could work until wildcard (or if Kelly actually plays)

  27. Dakes.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Hmmm... landed on this team with 0.5 ITB. Thoughts on Pérez as an option (would like Vardy but may be going down the cheaper fwd line route)? Is the structure ok? Major flaws? 🙂

    Heaton (Button)
    Robertson TAA Mendy Digne (Kelly)
    Salah Sterling Sigurdsson Pérez/Zaha (Dendoncker)
    King Deulofeu (4.5)

    1. Goodish
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Good team, I don’t like Deulofeu as a striker but haven’t looked into how it will effect him so could be wrong

  28. Goodish
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 1 Year
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Sterling and King is better than Aguero and Brooks, right?

    1. I Member
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Right.

    2. Crashjct
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      I could be wrong, but I have a bad feeling about Aguero and Brooks.

    3. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Yeah

  29. YankeeDoodleDandy
    • 6 Years
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Based on my points per minute per cost analysis:

    Ryan Button
    Trippier Digne VVD TAA Walker
    Sterling Salah Martial Noble Hayden
    DCL Jota Delefeou

    1. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 months, 11 days ago

      The drawback with points-per-minute is that it inflates the value of players who don't play regularly or come on as subs. DCL, Noble and Hayden fall into the bracket.

      1. Andy_Social
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 months, 11 days ago

        And especially Martial, of course.

  30. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
    • 3 Years
    3 months, 11 days ago

    KDB+Vardy or Sterling+Jota?