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Is it worth paying extra for Wilson over King in FPL?

Callum Wilson (£8.0m) has been handed a significant price rise in Fantasy Premier League ahead of 2019/20 and is now the second-most-expensive FPL forward who doesn’t represent a ‘big six’ club.

The price hike was inevitable after his fine 2018/19 in which he banked 26 attacking returns, more than in his previous three seasons combined.

Wilson’s points-per-match average of 5.6 was beaten by only three other FPL forwards (the £11.0m+ trio) and better than any of his Bournemouth teammates.

While Wilson has been handed a £2.0m price rise, Joshua King (£6.5m) costs exactly what he did 12 months ago.

There’ll be many Fantasy managers, then, who will be seriously considering the cheaper King as their Bournemouth coverage from Gameweek 1 onwards.

Investment in the Cherries’ FPL assets certainly looks appealing from the off, as they face all three promoted clubs and only one of last season’s top four in the opening ten Gameweeks – although matches against Everton and Leicester may prove tricky.

With that in mind, we will run a comparison of the two Bournemouth forwards in this article.

This piece would usually only be available to Members but we are temporarily unlocking it to give non-subscribers an idea of the type of analysis we produce behind the paywall.

The ‘King v Wilson’ idea was proposed by The FPL Physio, FPLFoxy and Man Getting Hit By Football on Twitter and on our site.

2018/19 FPL Data

Overall

PlayerAppsGoalsAssistsPoints per matchDouble-digit haulsBlanks
Wilson29 starts, 1 sub app14125.66/30 (20%)15/30 (50%)
King34 starts, 1 sub app1234.04/35 (11.4%)25/35 (71.4%)

Wilson was, quite simply, a more reliable option than King last season.

Wilson has a reputation for streakiness (six blanks and three double-digit hauls in the last nine Gameweeks an example of that) but banked more returns of ten or more points and blanked on fewer occasions, too.

King’s points-per-match average was some way short of Wilson’s, meanwhile.

Home

PlayerAppsGoalsAssistsPoints per matchDouble-digit haulsBlanks
Wilson15 starts564.81/15 (6.7%)7/15 (46.7%)
King18 starts935.33/18 (16.7%)10/18 (55.6%)

Interestingly, King was more than a match for Wilson at the Vitality Stadium.

The Norway international averaged more points per match than his strike partner and racked up more double-digit hauls.

The difference essentially came down to penalties: four of the five spot-kicks that King scored last season were in home games.

Again, though, Wilson was more consistent, returning in a higher percentage of his home fixtures.

Away

PlayerAppsGoalsAssistsPoints per matchDouble-digit haulsBlanks
Wilson14 starts, 1 sub app966.45/15 (33.3%)8/15 (53.3%)
King16 starts, 1 sub app302.71/17 (5.9%)15/17 (88.2%)

There was no contest between the pair on the road, with King blanking in all but two of his 17 appearances.

Wilson was a rarity among Premier League players in that he was more productive on his travels than on his own patch.

2018/19 broke the trend of recent seasons: King had actually scored more goals away than at home in his previous two campaigns, while the opposite was true of Wilson.

v Non-‘Big Six’ Sides

PlayerAppsGoalsAssistsPoints per matchDouble-digit haulsBlanks
Wilson22 starts, 1 sub app12126.4
6/23 (26.1%)10/23 (43.5%)
King24 starts924.33/24 (12.5%)16/24 (66.7%)

Given that Bournemouth play only one of the ‘big six’ in the first seven Gameweeks, it may pay dividends to analyse their strikers’ form against the also-rans of the Premier League in 2018/19.

Wilson again comes out on top: all bar two of his 26 attacking returns were against sides ranked seventh or below.

The England international registered more double-digit hauls and fewer blanks than King against these opponents.

Wilson v King: Heatmaps

Touch heatmaps for Callum Wilson (left) and Josh King (right) in 2018/19

The heatmaps above underline what we know already about the Bournemouth strike pair in that Wilson tends to be the more advanced of the two (see the average position charts in any number of the Cherries’ games last season).

While Wilson remains fairly central, King has a tendency to drift wide – note the mass of red down each flank and the left in particular.

Wilson v King: Goal Threat

Underlying goal threat statistics for Callum Wilson (left) and Josh King (right) in 2018/19. Most figures given are averages per appearance.

While Wilson has a definite edge, there isn’t a great deal to separate the pair in terms of goal threat.

Their rate of shots is pretty similar, although the better quality of Wilson’s chances (shots in the box, big chances etc) is notable.

Wilson had 15 shots from inside the six-yard box last season (only two players had more), while King had seven.

As we have discussed, Wilson and King were well matched at home in terms of FPL returns.

Wilson was head and shoulders above his strike partner for goals on the road but, looking at the underlying stats only in away matches, King fares well:

Underlying goal threat statistics for Callum Wilson (left) and Josh King (right) in 2018/19 away matches. Most figures given are averages per appearance.

King actually averaged more penalty box touches, shots on goal and efforts from inside the opposition area on the road last season, although Wilson again had a significant advantage when it came to ‘big chances’.

Only five players had more shots from inside the six-yard box than King (five) on the road, one of whom was Wilson (ten).

Wilson v King: Creativity

Underlying distribution statistics for Callum Wilson (left) and Josh King (right) in 2018/19. Most figures given are averages per appearance.

Again, there was little to separate the pair when it comes to creativity.

Their minutes-per-chance created averages were similar, with Wilson having a slight edge when it came to big chances created.

Isolating only away games, King bettered Wilson for almost every underlying distribution statistic apart from the one that matters, of course: actual assists:

Underlying distribution statistics for Callum Wilson (left) and Josh King (right) in 2018/19 away matches. Most figures given are averages per appearance.

Wilson v King: Expected Goal Data

Home Matches
Expected goal involvement data for Callum Wilson and Josh King in 2018/19 home matches.

King’s better FPL record at home last season is played out in his expected goal involvement data above, with both Bournemouth strikers slightly exceeding expectation (xGI deltas of +2.00 and+1.37).

Away Matches
Expected goal involvement data for Callum Wilson and Josh King in 2018/19 away matches.

This is the really interesting one.

Wilson’s xGI on the road was indeed higher than King’s but only by a similar margin that the Norwegian had at the Vitality.

What’s notable is their respective xGI deltas: only Wilfried Zaha (£7.0m) ‘overachieved’ more than Wilson (+5.34) in away games last season, while not a single Premier League player underperformed to the same extent as King (-3.39).

That would suggest the gap between their respective FPL returns on their travels (Wilson 15, King three) ought to have been closer.

Wilson’s record with Fraser

Half of Callum Wilson’s goals were set up by Ryan Fraser in 2018/19.

Wilson and Ryan Fraser (£7.5m) made Premier League history last season.

The pair combined for 12 goals in total, with Fraser assisting Wilson on seven occasions and Wilson returning the favour five times.

No other two players have combined for as many goals in a 38-match Premier League season.

Not one of King’s goals was assisted by Fraser.

It would stand to reason that King wouldn’t benefit from the Scotland international’s creativity as much, given that the Norwegian has a tendency to drift over to the same side of the pitch that the left-winger operates from (see the heatmaps).

Fraser’s crosses and passes, then, will generally be of greater benefit to the striker who is more prominent in the centre of the box, i.e. Wilson.

Being supplied by a player who created a staggering 28 big chances last season (nine more than any other Fantasy asset) and fired over more crosses (271) than any other midfielder is obviously an advantage that Wilson has.

Final Thoughts

Joshua King is Bournemouth’s first-choice penalty taker as the Premier League gets ready to roll out VAR for the first time.

A price rise was justified for Wilson after his exploits in 2018/19 but the data suggests he and King aren’t too mismatched in terms of overall attacking potential.

Wilson being the more advanced of the two means he will likely continue to get more ‘big chances’, while his telepathic partnership with Fraser is also a boon.

The fact that he blanked on fewer occasions than King and delivered more double-digit hauls is significant, too.

If the pair were to repeat their points-per-match averages of last season at the prices they are now, Wilson would still win out on the value-for-money metric (points per match divided by price):

PlayerPricePoints Per Match (PPM)PPM/Price
Wilson£8.0m5.60.70
King£6.5m4.00.62

King’s misfortune in having the worst xGI delta of all Premier League players in away games is worth noting, though, and a player of his quality surely won’t ‘underachieve’ to the same extent again.

The Norwegian is also (presumably still) the first choice for penalties at Bournemouth, which could partially compensate for Wilson’s superior threat from open play.

It’s right that Wilson now costs more in FPL but £1.5m is quite the difference this season when we Fantasy managers have to make savings to accommodate the premium options elsewhere.

For those looking at a 5-4-1/4-5-1 with a cheap-ish striker up front, then King certainly fits the bill.

It isn’t just King and Wilson who could ‘cover’ the Bournemouth attack in their opening fixtures, of course.

Fraser delivered more points than either of these two options last season and is available for half a million cheaper than Wilson.

We’ll have more on the Scottish winger over the summer, starting with a Numbers Game piece on Bournemouth next week.

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1,089 Comments Post a Comment
  1. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    5 months, 11 days ago

    How’s this looking:
    Allison
    Walker, Laporte, Digne, TAA
    Salah, Maddison, Sigurdsson, Noble
    Aguero, King
    Bench: Woodman, Greenwood, Capoue, Prodl

    Cheers

    1. Macam Dave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Don't like Alison as Liverpool defender better as get baps and assists/goals

    2. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Looks very good, nice and balanced. I think Noble is a punt do, was getting subbed around 60 minutes mark last season.

    3. jtreble
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      I personally wouldn't use up a LIV spot on Allison.

    4. Scotty B
      • 7 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      TAA > VVD
      Noble > Ake
      Maddison > Fraser

      And we haven't same 11 🙂

      1. Scotty B
        • 7 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        *Have the

  2. leo_messi
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    5 months, 11 days ago

    Mane another penalty missed

  3. Tony Moon
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    5 months, 11 days ago

    Scotty B bottomed on the last page... look out for a repost lol

    1. Scotty B
      • 7 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Lololol

    2. Epic Fail ⚽ 墅
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      He reposts regardless.

    3. Queenofthestoneage
      5 months, 11 days ago

      I consider these types of postd cyber bullying. Absolutely repulsed by peoples attitude towards Scotty.

      1. Tony Moon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        Lol. Only said in jest, and made him laugh.

      2. PUMPKINHEAD
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        Who are you

        1. Tony Moon
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          5 months, 11 days ago

          It's Scotty's mum.

          1. PUMPKINHEAD
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            5 months, 11 days ago

            😆

      3. PUMPKINHEAD
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        Wait. Is this Scotty's second account?

        1. Tony Moon
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          5 months, 11 days ago

          You could be right lol

        2. Pukki Party
          • 2 Years
          5 months, 11 days ago

          Seventh*

  4. pelle9
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    5 months, 11 days ago

    Thoughts on this team:

    Ederson
    Robbo - TAA - Digne - C. Taylor
    Salah - Sterling - Siggy - Brooks
    King - Deulofeu

    Button - Hayden - El Mohamady - 4.5m

    Appreciate any feedback.
    Thanks guys.

    1. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Looks good, very similar to my first drafts. Am struggling to find the best 4.5m defender that I can play most weeks, hopefully pre-season throws up a good option.

    2. Tony Moon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Elmo not nailed, as Villa signed a French RB - Guilbert. Has promise apparently. Could mean Elmo gets some time on the wing though, which would be good.

      Good team. Personally I'd try and downgrade Brooks and get Wilson instead of King. But yours could work.

      1. Fionn791
        5 months, 11 days ago

        I’m on Targett over el mo he will get assists and villa paying that much means he much be nailed on

        1. Tony Moon
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          5 months, 11 days ago

          True. Better than Neil Taylor, definitely!

  5. Breedy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    5 months, 11 days ago

    Any word on when RMT will be up and running?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 10 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Early next week.

      1. Eat my goal!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        5 months, 11 days ago

        You going to ban people that constantly identify isolate and attack individuals however repetitive they might be? Two posts back is a complete joke - schoolyard!

      2. Breedy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        Great, cheers mate!

  6. Pepe Le Pukki
    • 7 Years
    5 months, 11 days ago

    523?

    Ryan
    Digne // VVD // Zinchenko // TAA // Azpi
    Sterling // Salah
    King // Vardy // Deulofeu

    4.0 // Kante // Dendoncker // Hayden

    1. Queenofthestoneage
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Love it. I currently have.

      Ederson.
      VVD. Robertson. Azpi. Digne. Laporte.
      Salah. Sigurdsson.
      Vardy. Jimenez. King.

      Button. Kante. Ndidi. Stephens.

      1. Pepe Le Pukki
        • 7 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        Very nice, I sacrificed Siggy for my.2 man midfield.

    2. bradplum
      • 5 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      This is the best team I’ve seen on here, bravo

    3. Amey
      • 1 Year
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Looking for similar team
      Like it

  7. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    5 months, 11 days ago

    Is a membership on here worth it?
    Had my best season when I didn’t have a membership....

    1. The 5% Team
      • 1 Year
      5 months, 11 days ago

      why would you brag about it in that way though?

      1. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        Not bragging - it was MY best season, I wasn’t saying that I was top in the world or anything.....
        Absolute snowflake

        1. The 5% Team
          • 1 Year
          5 months, 11 days ago

          you know why you posted it like that, not neccesary imo

          If I misread it, my bad 🙂

    2. Tony Moon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Think what you could achieve WITH a membership! Even if you just use the RMT and season ticker it's worth it in my opinion.

    3. Dreadful
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      5 months, 11 days ago

      I’ve never had membership, I think about getting it every season but then worry that it will impact me negatively as I do fine without seeing any of the stats

      1. Tony Moon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        You could go from Goodish to Greatish...

  8. MFPL
    • 4 Years
    5 months, 11 days ago

    What is everyone’s thoughts on Kane?

    Haven’t seen as many teams with him as I would’ve thought, especially with a couple of their early teamed. Would love to know what people’s thoughts are in regards to picking him and not.

    1. Queenofthestoneage
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Im going without but 11m is a good pricetag.

      1. MFPL
        • 4 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        Any particular reasons?

    2. dorrian123
      • 7 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Usually plays bad in August , from previous seasons that why he is not in mines

  9. JJeyy
    • 4 Years
    5 months, 11 days ago

    Anyone else preferring a 6.0 defender over the 6.5 strikers? - thinking Pereira/Mendy/Azpi.

    1. Super Saints
      • 3 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Exactly this, Azpi will comfortably outscore the 6.5 strikers

      1. Queenofthestoneage
        5 months, 11 days ago

        Azpi!

      2. JJeyy
        • 4 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        think Pereira also a good option despite the price and also more attacking

        1. The 5% Team
          • 1 Year
          5 months, 11 days ago

          perfect replacement for Digne when Everton fixtures turn and he maybe isn't returning as much as I want

      3. tbeans22
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        In a vacuum, yes. Only problem is finding a playable bench forward at 4.5. The reverse is a lot easier to pull off and might even be preferred depending on matchups. It can certainly work but I never liked having total fodder for a bench.

        1. Dreadful
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          5 months, 11 days ago

          Agree with this. I’m okay having 1 fodder but no more than that.

  10. Super Saints
    • 3 Years
    5 months, 11 days ago

    Kane over Sterling works in so many ways!

    Ederson
    Robbo TAA Walker Digne Azpi
    Salah Siggy Zaha
    Kane King

    1. Queenofthestoneage
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Looks great!

    2. Scotty B
      • 7 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      TAA > VVD
      Zaha > Fraser

      1. Queenofthestoneage
        5 months, 11 days ago

        Perfect!

      2. The 12th Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        Can we have 4 Liverpool now?

        1. Scotty B
          • 7 Years
          5 months, 11 days ago

          I can only see 3 unless you know we've signed Zaha or Kane which would be nice

          1. The 12th Man
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            5 months, 11 days ago

            Lol. My mistake.

    3. It’s a Knockaert
      • 2 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Except from a lot less points in my opinion

      1. Super Saints
        • 3 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        15-20 less this season I'd guess. More than made up with that team!

    4. The 12th Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Tried to make this team. 0.5m short.
      So Robertson or TAA would have to be VVD or Zaha > Pérez/Brooks.

      Still good though.

    5. OneMan
      • 3 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Very good team bro......Will kane start slow like last season ?

    6. Jay Jay Okocha
      • 6 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      You gonna watch City games or nah? Those 6-0 hidings could be bad for your mental health.

  11. Scotty B
    • 7 Years
    5 months, 11 days ago

    Allison v Robertson
    Coleman v Digne
    Ederson v Laporte

    Robertson, Digne & Laporte for me, how about you?

    1. Super Saints
      • 3 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Rob
      Dig
      Ed

    2. The 5% Team
      • 1 Year
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Robbo, Digne, Ederson

  12. Coaly
    • 7 Years
    5 months, 11 days ago

    a) 4-4-2 with King
    b) 5-4-1 with Ricardo Pereira

    1. Fionn791
      5 months, 11 days ago

      A

    2. It’s a Knockaert
      • 2 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      A

  13. Fionn791
    5 months, 11 days ago

    (A) Kane king and 4.5
    Or
    (B) Vardy king and delefeu

    1. It’s a Knockaert
      • 2 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      A

    2. Tony Moon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      So it's Kane and a 4.5, or Vardy and Deulofeu? 😉

      I'd go B, to get two assured starters.

  14. Jaws
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    5 months, 11 days ago

    I think the mods need to find a solution. There really should be a separate section for RMT's. If someone posts it there once or 10 times a day, it wouldn't matter but now very often good posts simply disappear in this nonstop RMT outfall. And it's only getting worse.

    1. It’s a Knockaert
      • 2 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      They’ll probably bring back the same system as last year soon where they were in community articles

    2. Pukki Party
      • 2 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      No need yet as pages aren't flying. Flag the good posts and they will be hot topics, keeps the discussion going.

    3. ritzyd
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Especially when all of these drafts will change as signings / pre season take grasp. Such a waste of time but generates good site traffic!

      1. Jarvish Scott Talent
        • 4 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        That's it. They don't care the community has died and the site is just RMT vomit spewing everywhere - it is a business and its all about the clicks now.

  15. It’s a Knockaert
    • 2 Years
    5 months, 11 days ago

    A: zaha
    B: Perez
    C: Maddison
    D: Willian

    1. Pukki Party
      • 2 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      C as it stands, Zaha move and gametime during preseason could change my mind.

  16. Pukki Party
    • 2 Years
    5 months, 11 days ago

    Thoughts?

    Gunn
    TAA Robertson Digne Kiko
    Salah Sterling KDB Groß
    King Jota

    Button Lascelles Dendoncker 4.5

    Not settled on my two 4.5 defenders, a good rotation shout appreciated.

    Cheers

    1. The 5% Team
      • 1 Year
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Any reason why the choice for Gunn?

      Think Brighton and Watford have a nice rotation...avoiding top 6 teams

      1. Pukki Party
        • 2 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        Cheers, Duffy over Lascelles then. Actually had Duffy in my squad last week so didn't want the Brighton double up, therefore not Ryan in goal. But also think Soton will do well this season, finnished off ok.

  17. OleGGMU
    5 months, 11 days ago

    Ryan , Mcgovern

    Kelly, Digne, VVD, TAA, fodder

    Fraser, Siggy ,Salah, B Silva, Perez

    King, Delof, Che Adams

    2.5 ITB

    Thoughts and suggestions lads?
    Currently thinking of saving first 2 transfers and doing Fraser/Siggy/Bernado + King/Delof for Aguero and 4.5 mid in GW3

    1. Tony Moon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Who are you going to bench out of that front 8?

      1. OleGGMU
        5 months, 11 days ago

        Adams most likely as my rotation fwd with the mids and def being set
        so Starting XI

        Ryan
        TAA, VVD, Digne
        Fraser, Siggy, Salah, B Silva, Perez
        King , Delof

        Bench : Mcgovern, Adams, Kelly, Fodder

        Southampton dont have great fixtures so currently looking at GW3,5 and 6 out of the first 10 gws to probably swop in Adams for a mid/fwd to cover fixtures

    2. Pukki Party
      • 2 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Don't plan transfers, i'd get Aguero/Sterling from the start.

      1. OleGGMU
        5 months, 11 days ago

        Yeah I know mate, just keeping it in mind but of course how things develop in the first 2 gws will influence things and having 2.5 ITB offers me that flexibility to change things , whereas committing all in can cause lower TV and transfer issues if things dont start well

        key thing for me is to try and get my TV up before bringing in big hitters

        did the opposite last season by starting Kane, Aguero , Wilson and got burned for sticking to em too long whilst mids and cheapie fwds performed so looking for a diff strategy this season, more flexibility in choosing mids compared to fwds so will play "wait and see" before committing upfront

    3. Wild Rover
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Who's McGovern? If you have Fraser you should have Button to give you a sure starter

      1. OleGGMU
        5 months, 11 days ago

        Mcgovern is 2nd choice keeper at Norwich, not really bothered about 2nd keeper for now at least

        1. Wild Rover
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          5 months, 11 days ago

          What if Ryan gets injured? By having Button you are automatically covered

        2. Wild Rover
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          5 months, 11 days ago

          Sorry, Just realised I said Fraser when I meant Ryan in my first reply

          1. OleGGMU
            5 months, 10 days ago

            Cheers, fair point mate and Ive just checked, Norwich have signed Ralf Fahrmann from Schalke on loan so Mcgovern out button in 😀

  18. sfsfsfe
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    5 months, 11 days ago

    The latest hype? 5-2-3?
    This meta ain't even funny...

    1. Wild Rover
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      The cool kids are doing 5-3-2 😎

      1. Tony Moon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        Damn. I'm not cool.

        1. Wild Rover
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          5 months, 11 days ago

          And I'm no kid but hey-ho 🙂

          1. Amey
            • 1 Year
            5 months, 11 days ago

            😛
            WR, hope your treatment is going well !!

            1. Wild Rover
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              5 months, 11 days ago

              Hanging in there thanks mate, 18 weeks chemo done, 6 to go 🙂

              1. Amey
                • 1 Year
                5 months, 11 days ago

                Nice.
                Take care 🙂

              2. ...al - Come out to the coa…
                • 10 Years
                5 months, 11 days ago

                Best wishes

    2. Amey
      • 1 Year
      5 months, 11 days ago

      It's going to be boom or blast !!
      I'm going for it unless a great option appears at 5.5m in preseason

      1. pingissimus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        5 months, 11 days ago

        Not tempted by Perez - oop and 6.5? I’d have taken him at that at Newcastle!

        Now Leicester are about to get Tielemans too by all accounts. Leicester is where it’s at.

    3. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 9 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      I don't think anyone on here has the patience or the restraint for that kind of a strategy . The bandwagons will start and people will wildcard

      1. Amey
        • 1 Year
        5 months, 11 days ago

        😀

      2. Wild Rover
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        Me neither but it's worth a try as I always wildcard early anyway

  19. Edwards123
    • 3 Years
    5 months, 11 days ago

    Im at the point where i think a second opinion is probably needed,

    Current going with the tactic of adding as many penalty takers as possible with VAR incoming.

    Ederson McGovern
    TAA VVD Evans Diop Kelly
    Mane B.Silva Siggy Milivojevic Ward-Prowse
    Rashford Wilson Murray

    Thanks

    1. Tony Moon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Lack of captain choices for me.

    2. Skalla
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Should go Deeney-King-Vardy upfront if you want more pen takers!

  20. Pointless
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    5 months, 11 days ago

    Will Zinchenko be a regular starter please? And is he better value in Man City def than Laporte, who I currently have in my team?

    1. The 5% Team
      • 1 Year
      5 months, 11 days ago

      LB position is crowded now that Angelino joined...watch him have a great pre-season as well 🙂

    2. Pukki Party
      • 2 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      If the answer to the first answer is yes, then the answer to the second question is probably yes, and vice versa. Problem is we don't know until preseason.

      1. Pukki Party
        • 2 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        Question*

  21. OneMan
    • 3 Years
    5 months, 11 days ago

    Why did Kun miss so many minutes last season ?

    1. The 5% Team
      • 1 Year
      5 months, 11 days ago

      managed minutes and had a small injury at one point

    2. Pukki Party
      • 2 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Subbed at 60mins

    3. Scotty B
      • 7 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Get him in mate he's scored at least 20 PL goals 5 seasons in a row and will do again. Can't believe how much he seems to be getting overlooked on here

  22. Scotty B
    • 7 Years
    5 months, 11 days ago

    If you were to pick one of these GK/defence options which one would you go for?

    A Alisson, Walker, VVD, Laporte, Digne, Ake
    B Ederson, Coleman, VVD, Laporte, Robertson, Smith
    C Ederson, Robertson, VVD, Walker, Digne, Smith
    D Pickford, Walker, Robertson, VVD, Laporte, Smith
    E Alisson, Walker, VVD, Laporte, Coleman, Keane
    F Ederson, Coleman, Walker, VVD, Robertson, Ake

    1. Pukki Party
      • 2 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      C, what was your rank last season out of curiousity?

      1. Scotty B
        • 7 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        Be interested to know why you chose C. I think it won't be just me with this conundrum. And oh don't, rank was around 40k and rising and had terrible last 3 week's where I went Laca over Auba and plumetted

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 10 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      The one you have.

      1. Scotty B
        • 7 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        Can you remember what that was Nando?

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 10 Years
          5 months, 11 days ago

          Nope, just know it was the best and you don't need to change it.

    3. Dreadful
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      5 months, 11 days ago

      B out of those

    4. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 9 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      I don't see the point in this question . People will always suggest attacking full backs over centre backs

    5. in sane in de bruyne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      1 DAY, 1 HOUR AGO
      See you in 5 weeks for the curtain raiser...thanks for all advice and comments last couple of weeks. Add me to league's of you like or give me codes so we can have fun

  23. Captain Fozzy
    • 5 Years
    5 months, 11 days ago

    A) Pickford - Laporte - Sigurdsson
    B) Ryan - Digne - KDB

    1. Scotty B
      • 7 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      A

    2. Dreadful
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      5 months, 11 days ago

      A

    3. Bragazeti
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      B

  24. The 5% Team
    • 1 Year
    5 months, 11 days ago

    So what's your points prediction for Fraser this season?

    I feel even if he gets 150 points (30 less than last year) he would still be good value for 7.5M

    1. Amey
      • 1 Year
      5 months, 11 days ago

      He'll score 150+ i guess

      1. Super Frank8
        • 4 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        160ish i put him on

  25. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    5 months, 11 days ago

    Jamie Vardy

    With people putting more funds into defence and midfield, is he the compromise? A consistent scorer, pens, playing for a good team.

    1. Wild Rover
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Hope so

    2. Amey
      • 1 Year
      5 months, 11 days ago

      I'm going for him.

    3. Udo
      • 2 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      I got him too

    4. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      I want to start with him as he is a proven goalscorer and a consistent fpl scorer but even he is tough to get in when you go with the template of big at the back Salah and Sterling.

    5. Zilla
      • 2 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Yep

    6. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Downside is he's 32. A decline could happen at any point, especially as he relies on his electric pace.

      1. in sane in de bruyne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        Yeah he's not getting younger. But he will probably just pop an extra redbull and a few extra cigarettes for breakfast if he starts feeling dodgy.

    7. in sane in de bruyne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      He's in my team

    8. Gashead9
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Not keen on fixtures for 1st 6 but always an option for sure, he aided my climb into top 100k towards end of last season

    9. Boxwoods
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      He is for me, currently. Believe he will come within spitting distance of the 11.0 + club this season.

  26. Worsle90
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    5 months, 11 days ago

    Does this look good to anyone?

    Ryan
    TAA, Mendy, Digne, Diop
    Salah, Mané, Sterling, Dendoncker
    King, Kane,

    Button, Kelly, Stephens, Greenwood

    Probably

    1. Worsle90
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Sorry, ignore ‘probably’

    2. Super Frank8
      • 4 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Not sure about starting Dendoncker week in week out. Otherwise strong.

    3. Udo
      • 2 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Would rethink Mendy. Stephens is quite defensive, and Kelly might not be in the starting 11. But otherwise nothing wrong, room for any more ManCity maybe?

  27. Pepe Le Pukki
    • 7 Years
    5 months, 11 days ago

    A.

    Laporte // KDB // Kane // Stephens

    B.

    Zinchenko // Sterling // Vardy // Kante

    The latter on both will be benched.

    1. Worsle90
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      A.

    2. Super Frank8
      • 4 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      A. No point in having a £5m mid on bench.

  28. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    5 months, 11 days ago

    Has anyone thought about triple Liverpool defence and risk going without Salah?

    1. Super Frank8
      • 4 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      I did. For about a minute. Can't help but feel i'll be burned without having one of Salah or Mané. It's unsustainable

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        I think it's sustainable, but you just have to have a lot of patience! You can't knee jerk when Salah gets a monster score.

        1. Super Frank8
          • 4 Years
          5 months, 11 days ago

          Yeah i completely agree. It'll certainly be hard if he produces a 15+ point score within first couple of GW's. Just can't put that on myself

        2. Wild Rover
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          5 months, 11 days ago

          This is the problem all of us with four or especially five premium defs will have as soon as whichever of Kane, Aguero, Salah, Sterling or even lower priced mids and forwards we don't have start smashing it. If our defs have conceded and blanked as well the urge to knee jerk will be strong

          1. Drip Doctor
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            5 months, 11 days ago

            I think it's easier to be patient when its a striker who explodes, but midfielders seem to accumulate points very quickly. It'll be tough watching Soccer Saturday with 4 or 5 defenders and most likely having to wait until the 60th minute for points.

    2. Skalla
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Yes thinking about triple Liv defense then bringing Salah in on a early WC and will Captain Kane GW1 so could have a great start if Salah/Sterling blank and lots of time to catch-up if they don't!

    3. Tony Moon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      The possible upside is good, but the possible downside is so low, in my opinion. One freak goal against and you could lose 20 points.

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        Not really as most will likely have two Liverpool defenders.

        1. Tony Moon
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          5 months, 11 days ago

          Yes true, but those with two defs will likely have Salah or Mane in the third Liv spot. Helps balance it more.

      2. Skalla
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        Well will only lose about 6pts to the field as most have double defense anyway, so the only risk is a Salah monster score with a captain blank for Sterling/Kane.

        1. Tony Moon
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          5 months, 11 days ago

          Exactly.

    4. OneMan
      • 3 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      I'm on it. Liverpool defenders are just great value. I have sterling and Kane instead of Mane and Salah. Realistically they could match the Liverpool 2 for points.

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        I highly doubt either will match Salah, but with the extra funds you could end up with more points.

    5. ...al - Come out to the coa…
      • 10 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Triple is cray, double is manageable, and at least one is a must

      I'd be tempted with Ol' Trenty, VvD and Salah/Mane

  29. pingissimus
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    5 months, 11 days ago

    What would Tielemans come in at? 7.0? It sounds as if he’s close to signing. Would really like Vardy but he’s hard to squeeze in but 7.0 in midfield is very doable.

    Maddison Perez Tielemans - could be lots of value in all of them. formation and nailedness key.

    1. Skalla
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Would you prefer Tielemans at 7.0 out of those 3 if they line-up behind Vardy?

      1. pingissimus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        5 months, 11 days ago

        Im thinking Perez still but it’d be a really tight call.

        If it all goes through I could sacrifice KdB to get Vardy in - on the grounds everyone is there to serve him.

        I really like lining up with both KdB and Sterling but short term it could be prudent to see how KdB goes fitness wise

  30. danlynch13
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    5 months, 11 days ago

    Any adivice guys??
    Heaton
    Robbo/VVD/Digne/Zinchenko
    Salah/sterling/siggy/Fraser
    King/Jota

    Button/elmahmody/dendoncker/greenwood

    1. Super Frank8
      • 4 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Looks good. Just monitor the Zinchencko situation is all i'd say. No concerns otherwise

    2. The 5% Team
      • 1 Year
      5 months, 11 days ago

      like the midfield 🙂
      Zinchenko a risky pick of course, Heaton maybe...both to keep eye on in pre-season I reckon

      1. danlynch13
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        Ya definitely

    3. in sane in de bruyne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      Squeeze in TAA instead of VVD. Maybe by doing Fraser -> Zaha. Besides from that, sweet.

      1. danlynch13
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        5 months, 11 days ago

        Ya could work well

    4. Skalla
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      5 months, 11 days ago

      You should also pick a captain for hopefully some extra points but team looks good for now 🙂